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LSA (HBWR) + Cannabis - first combo - Visions and Awe

DJAngrE

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HBW + Cannabis - first combo - Visions and Awe

I'm writing this mostly as an account of the many visions that i journeyed with throughout the most intense portion of this trip; hopefully it will be entertaining to read.

(At first I was only attempting to test the potency of these seeds because plans had changed last second. I ingested 3 seeds at 4:00pm and waited about four hours without breaking threshold. Plans abruptly changed again at this point and the trip was going to take place, so i decided to ingest 8 more at 10:15pm. I was planning on six total before, but the potency of these disappointed me. My friend ingested eight herself but i'll mostly stick to my accounts, we simply chewed and swallowed on empty stomachs (nothing to eat for 24 hours). Two hours after second ingestion neither of us broke any threshold whatsoever, no nausea, no stoning, nothing, at that point we decided to smoke some weed.)

04:00 - 3 HBWS
10:15 - 8 HBWS
12:15 - 1 joint marijuana (each)
12:30 - Coming up from smoking felt normal up until around fifteen minutes time where what I felt can only be described as an emotional rocket launch. My auditory, visual and somatic hallucinations at this point were minimal but I felt this purely emotional rush. My mouth was simply hanging wide open. I was in complete awe of the intensity and clarity of the experience, like nothing I have ever felt.

12:45 - At this point some visual hallucinations started to manifest themselves and they can best be described as reinterpretations of everything I was looking at. Taking a second to stand outside subtly threw me back to a mushroom trip I'd had over a year ago, I felt like i was shrooming... swimming among undersea vegetation. That is when I knew that the seeds were indeed having an effect and I was in for a very special night.

01:00 - My friend and I left for a neighborhood park where we brought Sigur Ros' Agaetis byrjun on headphones connected with a headphone splitter. We sat on a bench under the trees and starlight.

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The set of visions I will describe next will be told as if they were actually happening, assuming that you understand I was tripping.

Wearing headphones and being connected to each other like that made me realize that we were in fact astronauts visiting the moon. The launch sequence began in my apartment where the lit hallway felt like the shuttle capsule, and walking outside to the park like a shuttle launch in outer space. There were benches on the moon, who'd have guessed! Sitting among the moonrocks and silly drunk aliens was unbelievably calming. Beyond the music there was an absolute silence that permeated every sense in my mind and body. Weightlessness.

As I looked up into the sky the lights below illuminated the underside of the trees and I was thrown back to a prehistoric shamanic gathering. There were about a dozen shamans dancing around a bonfire in the forest and they were speaking an alien tongue (the icelandic tongue of Sigur Ros) and speaking in colors and fractal patterns about the universe and its secrets. To my dismay i wasn't able to understand their speech but it was clearly a view into the realm of the history of these natural chemicals.

The overlay fractal patterns began overwhelming me. The carpet of plant material and stones on the ground in front began forming cartoons and at times virtual cities of populations of wood creatures. One of these earth spirits presented itself to me. Its appearance was much like the little white creatures from Princess Mononoke (and now that I realize, also exactly like the angelic fetus on the cover of the album). It suddenly appeared in the sky large as the horizon, and shrunk as it began to move towards me, as it walked up my leg it was about the size of a computer mouse, and as it rested on my arm it was the size of a lighter. It's body was translucent and it existed as a sort of vibration of the life energy around it. Its head was like a standing oval with a large forhead. It spoke this same alien tongue as the shamans and it was curious to see me. As it spoke, the music came out of its head as fractal patterns of rainbow confetti. Again I could not understand what he was saying, but I felt like it was communicating a sense of the natural world around us which we are nearly always neglecting to perceive.

(end track 6 - Hjartad hamast)
Each experience was more intense and more beautiful than the previous... in fact more amazing than anything I had ever seen. The hallucinations were more involving and intense when my eyes were open, than when they were closed.
(begin track 7 - Vidrar vel til loftarasa)

Next I watched incredulously as a ghost spirit of a human being walked in front of me and sat down on a bench a good distance from me. As this spirit looked at me I could tell that it was male, and a certain aspect of the music exploded my ability to recognize all of the spirits of people around me. Suddenly I was surrounded by all of the humans that had passed away from the earth before me, and each one had a message that I could see. One at a time they would light up with a beam of orange light that would shine up from their bodies into the sky, sending this soul back to heaven. Each piano note that struck was another message, another beam of light, another soul returning home. This happened with every passing piano note that struck until the harmony of the music and this transcendant message resonated with my own soul.

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These events continued for the length of the cd as we returned to the apartment and started to get rested enough to sleep. I rolled another (very difficult) joint and was only able to get through half of it, when i realized that the trip was turning into more of a very intense weed stone. The journeys were still immersive, but instead seemed more like something I could see: the emotional connection was losing its grip. Consciousness drifted in between wakefulness and sleep, it was difficult to tell what I was dreaming and what I was seeing. The sleep of the whole night felt this way.

Upon waking up I felt completely normal again, with at most a pleasant afterglow. LSA before had felt like more of a mental journey, this one was nearly completely visual, and thus much more immersive, as well as the most enjoyable psychedelic experience of my life.
 
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Cannabis is an absolute must with LSA. Even though I can usually feel it before smoking pot, it always kicks up the trip a couple notches.

Your trip sounded more intense than any LSA trip I've had... how did your body feel? Any nausea or cramping? If not you're one of the lucky ones to avoid those effects from swallowing the seeds..

-peace
 
Very nice report. All the HBWS reports I keep reading are telling me it is definitely time for me to revisit the place those seeds bring me too. It has been, gosh, at least 4 years now since I have had any LSA-containing seeds. I always loved the seeds, but I've been so busy exploring synthetic-exotic psychedelics I have not had the time for these. Time to change that.
 
bluedolphin said:
how did your body feel?

As far as -intensity- goes I would say that the experience didn't feel intense like DXM or psilocybin experiences can feel like, the visions and thoughts were very clear and exclusively positive. I did have mild paranoia but those thoughts were easily discarded when I felt them come up.

For the first two hours i felt nothing at all, after smoking weed my body felt lightweight if anything for a few hours. Walking around felt like i was floating or teleporting (haha, i love that effect) after continuing to smoke on the way down from the LSA the weed was starting to drag me down a bit, and if anything my body felt mildly weighty. I had no cramping or stomach discomfort, and I haven't ever had these side effects from eating morning glory or HBW in the past. Guess I'm one of those lucky few, if only I could impart such luck on others!

My experience with the MGS alone was more thought affecting, and not much in the way of OEV's. I got some mild stomach discomfort and sedating effects from the MGS, but nothing that conversation with someone couldn't erase.

Good luck morninggloryseed with your LSA outing, I hope it brings you something to take with you as well. :D
 
okay wait, haha, first you're saying you never experienced stomach cramping or discomfort, next thing i know you DID experienced it...
quote: ...I had no cramping or stomach discomfort, and I haven't ever had these side effects from eating morning glory or HBW in the past. Guess I'm one of those lucky few, if only I could impart such luck on others!
My experience with the MGS alone was more thought affecting, and not much in the way of OEV's. I got some mild stomach discomfort and sedating effects from the MGS...
:D :D :D

i'm thinking of trying lsa again myself. i've only tried them a couple of times, but never experienced anything, this was almost 3,5 years ago. think they were low quality (high quantity) though, can't explain it otherwise. i'm going to buy some hbwr instead of mgs this time, quality versus quantity this time, doesn't say anything... purely psychological :D
 
hmm, lol...
I guess I meant i've never had the muscle cramps, nor really problems with either cramping or nausea. I don't know why I worded it like that, haha ;)
 
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you certainly are lucky, in my first experience with these the nausea turned my trip into a nightmare and until i puked i was terrified. Great report, must of been pretty intense.

peace
 
Nice report, and yes i do think weed is a must IF you want to have a visual experience, and it certainly adds some fire when it comes to euphoria, but on the few times i got really high at the peak, it turned into mostly a visual experience, but not quite as thought provoking. A double edged sword imo, but cannabis definately makes LSAs more recreational, whist taking them alone for me is more introspective and generally thought provoking and stimulating at the peak.

All in all, well written, as it made me feel like i was on LSAs even though i haven't taken any seeds containing those alkaloids for over a year.

And a note for psychonaut: I always find it absolutely nescessary to hold the seeds in for around an hour, and if you need to puke after that, just do it. I was always still able to trip, without any nausea for the duration of the experience, even without cannabis.
 
In my experience with HBWR and morning glory seeds, grinding the seeds into a fine powder with a pepper grinder (or similar) makes all the difference compared to just chewing up the same dose.

Dan
 
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