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Opioids Lowering MSContin Dose Help

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rock58

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Friends,
I'm new around here and could use some help. I've been taking MScontin 120mg. every 12 hours for 10 plus years now. That's two 60mg. pills at a time. I'm 58 now. Chronic pain is from 3 past back surgeries with 6 discs out with instrumentation,both shoulders had arthroscopies and bone excisions,hands and feet had several more and etc.
I should make it clear that I'm no stranger to street use, but that I have been alcohol and "drug" free for 20 years. Anyway,my question centers around lowering my dose. I understand that a split ER pill is different-but getting correct data is hard. If I split a 60mg. pill(and take about half) will it last 12 hours or 6-7? Would it be wiser to crush the pill and divide into piles?
I can't go to my Doc' for help with this. My pain doctor booted me out years ago for missing two appointments even though I called and never failed a blood test. They are extremely tough around here,almost cruel I'd say. My family Doctor is supplying meds per the "specialists" recommendations so his butt is covered, and he's not willing to adjust things. I do not want to go back to pain management,but I want to lower my dose at least temporarily.
This whole situation is due to the change in medical care. I now fall into the "Coverage Gap" for those who understand these things,and have to pay out of pocket most of the year. I simply can't afford to be as comfortable as I'd like,at least for 6 months a year.
Anyone?
 
Are you telling me none of you guys KNOW how long a dose of crushed ER morph will last snorted or injected? Com'on friends! When I shot heroin in Southern Cal I sure knew how much and how long. I'm in withdrawals now 3 days-this is day 4 of half a dose (60mg) and I'm really feeling low here. I want to do 30mg more for a 12 hr. period or near equivalent. If I have to today I'll guess but I really want to know what is what-I want that control,dammit.
 
Morphine has a poor bioavailbility when snorted, I think its around half the oral BA. So thats one issue. Not to mention those MScontin are awful to snort, at least he Mallinkrodft brand are IME. There are tons of threads about those pills on this site, I would say if you aren't gonna IV then plugging is the best route. But like I said if its between snorting and eating you might as well just eat.

They gel up, too, at least the Malli's did on me when I tried plugging the ones I had. All in all those pills just suck, specifically they suck to abuse, there is a reason you can get 100 mg mscontin for less than 30 mg oxycodones on the street.
 
Thanks-but I need a time frame on the crushed or broken. I understand crushed isn't exactly IR and that doesn't matter to me. just an approximation so I can get a routine going.
 
Well unless its oral then the ER function isn't in place, so using it IV, snorted, or plugged is going to last as long as any morphine, which is around 2-6 hours depending on the persons metabolism and size of dose. Crushing it and eating is still ER, crushing it does not eliminate the ER function when taken orally.

Like I said snorting them is a waste, plugging is good if you do it right. They can be shot but its a process to make it safe (they can be found on this site with the FSE), and its really not "safe" but can be made safer.
 
Ok I believe what you're asking is if cutting the pill in half will effect the time release. I don't think it would in the case of OP oxy which I'm assuming your taking.
 
Hey friends,it's been some time since I've posted but I'm still kickin'-so to speak. This was a tough question and the only "official" answers you'll get are "Don't,you could overdose" and that is probably wise advice to remember for those who play.

Lowering my dose was the goal here,and my only recourse was experimentation. That said,I'm not without a street background spanning more years than most. I also have a sobriety background just as long-so you can see this is no game for me. I'm 60 this month.

I was taking,at last post about 1 year/3 months ago, 120 milligrams twice a day. I cut that to 90 ml. twice a day for maybe 3-4 months by splitting pills-not easy to do and messy sometimes,but doable. Time release wasn't a problem. Withdrawals were mild but long legged. No big deal but noting it.
I then cut that to 75 milligrams,which really made me bite the bullet all day. Pain was unbearable,clenched jaws all day. One month later I opted for taking 10-15 milligrams crushed when needed but not exceeding the 90 milligram twice a day dosage.
That has worked fine for the last year of 2014,and I found that on average I usually take slightly less than the 90ml. twice a day dose.

I find myself much more conscious of pain during intervals of stress or activity,but get relief when I need it and have been doing much better. I certainly can't suggest this for anyone,especially those who have "addictive personalities etc." but I do want to share my personal results. The difference for me in not taking a steady dose and having some control is great. Sleep is more natural,less constipation,more energy. Small things that matter.
 
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