Low dose meth really harmful for brain?

[F1n1shed]

So i started tweaking on week ends when i had my job, usually fri - sunday i would use (would sleep and eat as well). Doses are usually 15-20mg at a time and yes i would redose maybe 3 or 4 times each day.
My job moved and i started using daily cuz why not? Anyways i'd say it's been a good 2 weeks of using daily, same doses about 20mg at a time with redoses. I make sure i force food down, i get a decent amount of sleep and i don't smoke it btw.

I know i am going to feel tired and weak as hell tomorrow, but it should clear up in a couple of days i hope. Do you think usage like mine caused significant death of my neurons or will I be fine?
Any of you heavy meth users still enjoy life after quitting meth?

 

[beniceman]

One of the problems is that your neurons get used to the increased amount of dopamine etc. and once you quit, they don't produce sufficient amounts to make you feel "happy". Thus life seems to suck after quitting, can be like this for a long time depending on the length of usage and doses.
Do I enjoy life? - Yes, after a while it was ok again, but that's just me. I still use other stims though.

 

[DOB]

I know this is nothing to laugh about but I find it kind of funny how the meth is taking control over his soul,trying to come up with racional reason to approve usage,to make believe everything is ok

lol yes everything is alright just continue using meth daily,its only low dose so that makes it ok,everything is alright no need to worry,take that meth

 

[JessFR]

Well they give it to kids for ADHD under the trade name desoxyn, though in 5mg tablets. There's probably a low enough dose that it'd be unlikely to be harmful in prolonged use. Buuuut I'm guessing it wouldn't stay at a low dose. It never has in my drug use, lol.

I would recommend against it, it may not be good for kids either regardless of it's approval.

 

[AlphaMethylPhenyl]

I don't know. Do you think it's safe to take 160mg adderall per day? Because that's about the equivalent. The maximum safe dose of adderall is 60mg/day. Even on day of your lowest usage, 45mg meth, that would be the equivalent of about 90mg amphetamine. But then you add in the increased toxicity from methamphetamine and you get even worse effects. Add in filler and you get a little less meth per dosage, but for all you know the filler could be more nuerotoxic.

Show me a former meth addict who doesn't take a year of abstinence to feel mildly better.

Good on not smoking it--doesn't make it that much better though.

Just go to a doctor and be honest and let them treat you. It feels like everything sucks in the beginning but you're better off in the end if you can get to the reason why you do this.

You might not fall as fast as people who smoke grams of it on the daily, but if you keep on doing this, you will fall. Just looking out for you bud.

 

[pbuilder]

I don't know. Do you think it's safe to take 160mg adderall per day? Because that's about the equivalent. The maximum safe dose of adderall is 60mg/day. Even on day of your lowest usage, 45mg meth, that would be the equivalent of about 90mg amphetamine. But then you add in the increased toxicity from methamphetamine and you get even worse effects. Add in filler and you get a little less meth per dosage, but for all you know the filler could be more nuerotoxic.

Show me a former meth addict who doesn't take a year of abstinence to feel mildly better.

Good on not smoking it--doesn't make it that much better though.

Just go to a doctor and be honest and let them treat you. It feels like everything sucks in the beginning but you're better off in the end if you can get to the reason why you do this.

You might not fall as fast as people who smoke grams of it on the daily, but if you keep on doing this, you will fall. Just looking out for you bud.

What this dude said^

Yea, if you could keep the meth usage to just one dosage of 20mg per day, then I would say, your probably not doing much harm to your brain cells, but if you are redosing 3-4 times a day, which is 60-80mg of meth, then yes, you are definetely damaging your brains cells.

 

[F1n1shed]

I don't know. Do you think it's safe to take 160mg adderall per day? Because that's about the equivalent. The maximum safe dose of adderall is 60mg/day. Even on day of your lowest usage, 45mg meth, that would be the equivalent of about 90mg amphetamine. But then you add in the increased toxicity from methamphetamine and you get even worse effects. Add in filler and you get a little less meth per dosage, but for all you know the filler could be more nuerotoxic.

Show me a former meth addict who doesn't take a year of abstinence to feel mildly better.

Good on not smoking it--doesn't make it that much better though.

Just go to a doctor and be honest and let them treat you. It feels like everything sucks in the beginning but you're better off in the end if you can get to the reason why you do this.

You might not fall as fast as people who smoke grams of it on the daily, but if you keep on doing this, you will fall. Just looking out for you bud.

I definitely understand your concern. I should have specified that i was stopping after that last dose and not picking up more. Was wondering if i hindered my brain a lot from that usage. I do not plan on picking up more, there is no way i can pick up and save. When i pick up, I make an excuse to use it every day and it was turning into a very bad situation. When i use once or twice a week , it is all fun times good high and the comedown is easy to get through. But as soon as i started daily, the high didn't have much euphoria and i needed that morning dose to even have enough motivation to play a video game or go out side...

We will see how it goes, i am actually planning on staying clear of all drugs.. just finished my heroin yesterday. Had almost a year clean but relapsed a few months ago (meth and heroin).

 

[AlphaMethylPhenyl]

Sorry to hear about your relapse. I'm in the process of cutting out tobacco, which doesn't have the withdrawal that meth or heroin can induce, but it still makes me crabby.

Maybe poests/a thread in Sober Living or The Dark Side would help you.

As it is, I guess I can give a little advice. Deleting contacts ensures one more barrier against relapse. Going to AA/NA meetings, even if you don't believe in everything they preach, can help too. Talking to a licensed mental health professional about your goals and how to get there can definitely help. Telling a good friend or family member what's going on may be of use. You can look for a sponsor or someone else to call at any time of the day or night if you have cravings that you don't think you can beat by yourself. Think positively! I know it really sucks in the beginning, but the fact that you went almost a year without using should be somewhat empowering.

 

[F1n1shed]

Sorry to hear about your relapse. I'm in the process of cutting out tobacco, which doesn't have the withdrawal that meth or heroin can induce, but it still makes me crabby.

Maybe poests/a thread in Sober Living or The Dark Side would help you.

As it is, I guess I can give a little advice. Deleting contacts ensures one more barrier against relapse. Going to AA/NA meetings, even if you don't believe in everything they preach, can help too. Talking to a licensed mental health professional about your goals and how to get there can definitely help. Telling a good friend or family member what's going on may be of use. You can look for a sponsor or someone else to call at any time of the day or night if you have cravings that you don't think you can beat by yourself. Think positively! I know it really sucks in the beginning, but the fact that you went almost a year without using should be somewhat empowering.

Yea i was in a real strict rehab for most of that time though which obviously helped a lot. So hard to get rid of contacts but i understand it is really important. It was actually a bluelighter who texted me while i was in rehab. He knew i had a lot of sobriety and texted me one day 'Need a connect'? That was all it took, the spark went off in my brain and i picked up... fucking prick. I am going back to AA meetings, they definitely help.

 

[PriestTheyCalledHim]

Well they give it to kids for ADHD under the trade name desoxyn, though in 5mg tablets. There's probably a low enough dose that it'd be unlikely to be harmful in prolonged use. Buuuut I'm guessing it wouldn't stay at a low dose. It never has in my drug use, lol.

I would recommend against it, it may not be good for kids either regardless of it's approval.

Amphetamine even in moderate and high doses is not neurotoxic, the way meth is neurotoxic at all doses even low ones.

Good luck in your sobriety F1n1shed.