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Bupe Low-dose daily bupe to one day roxy binge dose

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Bruce Haze

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Middle finger ONLY because I typed up this entire thread and hit the back button, AGH. Haha but anyways, I am going on a roxy binge tomorrow :D
I have been on a daily dose of subutex for the past 6 months. I have been snorting between .8-2 mg per day, but I just switched to booty-bumping the subutex using a 4 ml oral syringe. Off-topic statement- It works great and feels as if it kicks in within 20 minutes, plus I don't like the idea of some of the subutex going into my lungs and damaging my nose from snorting.

Tomorrow I am obtaining 30 Mg Oxycodone IR x 4. It has been 2 months since I did only a 15 mg Roxy and felt a decent buzz, but I had been off of the subutex for 5 days, so its hard for me to calculate how much of my buzz was from:

1. How much my tolerance MAY (IDK) have been lowered from 5 days of withstraining from bupe use.
2. If my absolutely shitty, anxious, slightly depressed (mostly complete non-stimulation) state of mind and aggravating RLS (my main physical symptom that is the number one contributer of my insomnia) companied by mild chills and just basic lacking of the ability to relax.
3. Possible placebo effect from the fact I knew I was going to have some kind of relief from the above listed symptoms.

My main question of this thread is to get a few opinions on what dose I should consume, but I would would also appreciate the opinions of any person(s) that feel as if they are knowlegdeable about any of my lesser questions. I read bluelight all the time, everyday when I get home from work as I am interested in learning about the body and drugs. Shoutout to tricomb, Capt. H, tommyboy and a few others I can't think of off the top of my head. (I'm fully fuckin agonized off 30 mg of methadone tonight, feeling energized)
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So on to my interest in the dose I shall be taking and the plan of how I should take these 4, as to be safe, and be at a good, euphoric buzz going but not have my breathing to depressed and not reach a dangerous level of opiation.

My plan will be to take 30 mg orally on my route home, then plug 30 mg with cleaned out bowels when I get home. I want a snorting-like onset without too much of a lacking in my bioavailability. Depending on how late it is, I will either continue and take the other 2, or repeat this again if I enjoy it thoroughly.

Thanks for any opinions posted guys, and if I have any more questions on this topic I will be sure to ask!
 
Basically asking how much my tolerance has been effected from my buprenorphine use, and what dose of Oxy I will need to consume to reach a nice good, opiated happy buzz with my current tolerance.

I will not have taken any suboxone for the past 36 hours AT LEAST, so from what I have read on here, no antagonizing should take place.
 
I'm assuming you're plugging the same ammount of bupe that you were snorting? If so than the absorption raises only by 4%(which is actually good in your case as your trying to get high Tomorow..). Everyone is really different, but when I was on a similar dose, I could get stoned off of 30mg IV oxycodone (and since oral has an ~80% BA, I'd assume I would have gotten similar, longer lasting effects had I swallowed perhaps 35mg).

In truth you will probably not feel the same exact euphoria that you remember from the oxy, in fact prepare to be a bit dissapointed. After taking a consistant dosage of bupe for a sustained period of time I, and many others find that your receptors become 'dulled' in a way.
 
Right^,
I felt the same way when I was on super low dosages of buprenorphine (non-blocking doses). The only way I was able to get a satisfying full agonist high was by shooting oxymorphone or taking methadone. Heroin just made me really sedated, though a few times I lucked upon some true fire (while on 16mg+/day no less), and it broke through as if I had never taken subs. But for the most part, long term use of bupe, even at very low dosages seems to dull the effects of most opiates unless they are super potent.

I've found that while methadone similarly diminishes the euphoria of other opiates (even at low dosages, 30-50mg), the euphoria is actually possible, so long as your under a blocking dosage, it's just that a large ammount, or very powerful opiate is required to get that 'true' high back. However, with Methadone (50mg), I can still shoot a rather small ammount of heroin and get pretty damn high, strangely the thing that seems to be missing the most though is the rush. However, when I've been at blocking doses of meth (70mg and above), I could not get high no matter how many bags of smack I shot, or even if I tripled my daily dose of methadone.. It was completely impossible, even if I skipped three days. Strangely though, I could still very much experience the rush of IV heroin back then.. I wonder if that is just a strange phenomenon, or more of a statement about the quality of heroin from 3 years ago compared to the East Coast Powder of today..
 
Yeah, my counselor told me that bupe covers your opiater receptors so opiates can't even get in...
6 months of bupe should make oxy basically useless.
 
Agreed. That's not entirely true . Even though you've taken sub for 6 months, you should still feel euphoric on oxy after 36-48 away from sub. It won't feel the same as you remember and sometimes a chase occurs to catch up to To the way you remember it was .

I would start off with a low dose and increase as you see fit .

Unfortunately your tolerance is your own so it's hard to gauge but at least you know the sub shouldn't block the effects if you are over 42 hours since last administration
 
Does the sub last forever ? No it only lasts as long as it's binder to your receptors. Some say 48 hours , some say a week ... Also depends on the person
 
After 2 back surgeries in '85 & '86, then using Codeine, heroin, and methadone for 20+ years (methadone *only* for the past 7), I learned that for my job I had to be opiate-free. I was on 25mg methadone/day (15mg a.m. & 10mg p.m.), so I tried to taper off the methadone. Holy shit, this was a hellish nightmare.
I went to a pain doc who got me off the methadone by switching me to ~80mg/day hydrocodone. Of course I still had to get off that so I went to yet another pain doc who put me on pure buprenex. This has been awful also, but finally, after almost FOUR MONTHS of agony I'm down to 1mg Bupe every 36 hours, and I just discovered that even a mere 1mg Bupe/36 hours totally blocks hydrocodone. Of course, YMMV.
 
i also find that after doing bupe for most of the past 4 years that after about 1 year on it i could barely feel the rush from dilaudid even so idk the best high i've been able to get is high dose oxycodone IVed even better than dilaudid IVed or oxymorphone IVed or heroin IVed but it takes a wasteful amount of oxycodone which is why i said it's almost not even worth taking
 
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