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Low daily doses of ibogaine to block addictive behavor?

Appears that someone on drugs forum tried this:
You can tell by watching my face I'm a sad person. After one month of binging on mephedrone, a friend offered me some Iboga to help to stop. It worked more than I excepted. I will just explain you how it feels to me. When I had a strong craving, 100mg of this would calm me down quickly. The cravings are almost gone by now. I like to think of Iboga as a powerful anti-depressant, without any side effects. The fact that Ibogaine work on a lot of neurotransmettors -unlike Prozac for example, which just works as an ISRS- feels like a way more natural antidepressant. Its effects are feeled very quickly, even with the first dose. It relaxes me, whereas benzodiazepines doesn't, but don't make me feel tired. It stimulates me a bit, like a low dose of amphetamine, but without making me angry, or stressed. It makes me smoke less and not craving for drugs. When I smoke a joint on Iboga, I don't have to be fucked up. I just enjoy smoking with a friend, I doesn't matter if I take only two puffs. It also make me more confident when I'm around people, and friendly.
It's the best AD I've ever used

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My own experience is coming soon.
 
I was under the impression that ibogaine had some peripheral opiate like properties which is why it was effective at reducing withdrawal symptoms specifically for opiates. I was unaware that ibogaine was also effective against stimulant addiction.
 
medieval, do you have intense cravings for amps and stims? I know cravings require an intact glutamatergic system, which i believe i lack. I dont get cravings for anything, ever really.


Because i think ibogaine only helps with actual cravings though im not sure.

Just get someone to hold onto your meds and give them to you. Or switch to like ritalin or something you wont abuse as much.
 
Ive read it helps ppl get stafisfied with lower doses of drugs too, wich would be great as i often keep on taking more to the point of needing alcohol as i feel to paranoia/sketchy. (even if i'm high allready id often end up overdosing)

I do feel cravings for stims without them, but its not too bad, i just need to find a way to be satisfied with low therapeutic doses.

I would abuse ritalin as much, in fact id most likely snort a whole package at once as i dont get the feeling i want lol.
 
MeDieViL said:
Ive read it helps ppl get stafisfied with lower doses of drugs too, wich would be great as i often keep on taking more to the point of needing alcohol as i feel to paranoia/sketchy. (even if i'm high allready id often end up overdosing)

I do feel cravings for stims without them, but its not too bad, i just need to find a way to be satisfied with low therapeutic doses.

I would abuse ritalin as much, in fact id most likely snort a whole package at once as i dont get the feeling i want lol.
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Clonidine combined with low dose benzo and curcumin is good for coming down off of huge amounts of stims, what do you use?

Clonidine alone is actually pretty dam good, and so is curcumin alone.
 
Coming down from stims is actually fun with GHB, abolishes all comedowns so thats not a problem for me at all. Curcumin does help but it doesnt matter if ive got GHB. I dont mean the comedown with the sketchy thing, just happeneds if i took too much.
 
MeDieViL said:
Coming down from stims is actually fun with GHB, abolishes all comedowns so thats not a problem for me at all. Curcumin does help but it doesnt matter if ive got GHB. I dont mean the comedown with the sketchy thing, just happeneds if i took too much.
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nah methylphenidate doesnt have nearly as bad a crash as heavy amps do, i just chase it with opiates. No need to mess with ghb, not that i could get it anways.

how the hell would you get ibogaine without flying to like mexico or some shit anyways.
 
MeDieVil lives in Belgium. I don't think it's illegal there. In the Netherlands it can be ordered on the internet and bought in Smart Shops, as can plants like Voacanga africana which contain similar alkaloids.
 
Couldnt care less whats illegal or legal, small ammounts are all worth the risk imo.

I started wellbutrin first as it antagonizes the same nicotinic receptor as ibogaine and could have some utility, it could also help my ADHD as i still have motivation issue, if this doesnt work i'l try ibogaine.
 
Wellbutrin is allready working a bit, keep forgetting to take my methoxetamine lol, wich is most likely because it gives a bit of a mood boost, not very recreational but it is reinforcing so its likely i never forget a dose for those reasons.
 
MeDieViL said:
Wellbutrin is allready working a bit, keep forgetting to take my methoxetamine lol, wich is most likely because it gives a bit of a mood boost, not very recreational but it is reinforcing so its likely i never forget a dose for those reasons.
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Bupropion as other SSRI are very gradual on their therapeutic onset, be prepared to several weeks (2 mostly IMO) to get their benefits. But you end get taking more chemicals for the same condition.

As a matter of fact they are considered "safe/legal" for that delay between administration and full action.
For me, full effects of fluoxetine on 100 mg/day are quite more stimulating that 60mg of Methylphenidate. Ironically is much more easy to get the fluoxetine (also habit forming).

Speaking of ADD/ADHD the one that work best for me is MDPV in 80mg daily dose. Is cheaper, legal and work the best.

I always get over of stims, it's part of the trade.

My two cents: get used to it, and try always to take the minimun amount of any product, limiting to one per condition.
 
The anti addictive effects can manifest right away, the ADHD benefits should also manifest right away as its a NE releasing agent. For depression yes you need to give it time but i'm not depressed.
 
after what i've reas about iboga i can only see it as benefical,i say go for it after research
 
There is no "magic bullet" to cure drug addiction, besides hard work, sobriety, and counseling.

Ibogaine is a huge scam and a crock of shit, taking it every day vs. once shouldn't make any difference.
 
wungchow said:
There is no "magic bullet" to cure drug addiction, besides hard work, sobriety, and counseling.

Ibogaine is a huge scam and a crock of shit, taking it every day vs. once shouldn't make any difference.
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Cool story bro, but yes offcourse there's no magic bullet.

The things you propose wont be of any help in my case as i can just not get more amphetamine and stay sober, but would it help ADHD? Nope. Nicotinic antagonism can be particurally usefull as it can make users feel satisfied after lower doses.
 
i'd rather be addicted to ibogaine than speed

i havent tried ibogain but loved ayahuasca so im all for it and have heard from a few recovering addicts its magic
 
MeDieViL said:
The anti addictive effects can manifest right away, the ADHD benefits should also manifest right away as its a NE releasing agent. For depression yes you need to give it time but i'm not depressed.
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bupropion is habit forming (like almost everything) by itself. I take it for my "focus issue", as the fluoxetine, and I had to wait to feel the effects. I prefer not to mess with SSRI's and take only plain stims. But like you, i run out of them and sometimes I feel not so good.
But after decades of taking lot of stuff I prefer to wait to the next "refill" rather than jumping from one chemical to another or taking several at the same time.
 
atara said:
Doesn't work that way. Consider a less addictive ADHD treatment, such as modafinil or bupropion.

Oddly, I've never found stimulants that addictive. I mean, I love them, but...
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It does work that way reading anecdotes of people, and it makes sense as craving is largely mediated by epigenetic changes or other adaptive chances.

I actually am on wellbutrin right now, it doesnt do my adhd any favors at all, however it makes me be able to stop after a certain point dosing stims, wich i barely could do before.
 
wungchow said:
There is no "magic bullet" to cure drug addiction, besides hard work, sobriety, and counseling.

Ibogaine is a huge scam and a crock of shit, taking it every day vs. once shouldn't make any difference.
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Ibogaine is NOT a scam, but you are correct about not taking it everyday. It works best for opiate addiction with about a 70% success rate of no relapse within the first 6 months compared to a 3% average success rate for conventional rehabs. The booster doses sometimes necessary are very low and typically one dose every few months is sufficient until all cravings are gone.

What makes Ibogaine so appealing is that it is not a replacement therapy such as methodone or suboxone, so you are not trading one addiction for another.

The success rate for amphetimines is very good as well. I suggest calling a provider since protocols are different. If you contact http://ibogainedrugtreatment.com they are very helpful and can probably point you in the right direction.
 
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