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Lortab 7.5 CWE (hydrocodone/APAP)

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Notice: First off I just wanted to say instead of deciding the best suited forum for this thread myself, I decided to post it here and allow the moderators to put it where they think it would be best fit. thank you.

Hello everybody I haven't ever registered to the site because I get a little paranoid sometimes about putting shit on the internet, but anyway this site is the shit so I decided it was about time since I'm trying my first CWE(cold water extraction for the less informed) this morning. I'm going to try to make this as organized as possible but I couldn't find any thermometers except for one in an aquarium of mine.
As such I won't be recording temperatures like I had hoped due to fear the chemicals that exist on the thermometer would impurify my aqueous hydrocodone solution. Anyway here's what I got:

Ingredients:
a. 4 lortab 7.5's (500 ap's a piece) and 1 lortab 10 (500 ap on this guy too)
b. cool tap water (not too cold just cool to the touch) ~75 mL
c. 2 coffee filters
d. Funnel
e. Cup to filter the sol'n into.
f. hose clamp :)

notes: I believe these are generic lortabs (they're watsons) white 7.5s and blue 10. My reason for only using 5 is because this is my first attempt and I want to see how I do, I know 5 is safe for me to take as I have taken 8 before (6'1 160)


I haven't decided exactly how long I will leave the mixture in the freezer or whether I will filter twice or both at once, but I will report back with results a.s.a.p. any suggestions welcome.

P.S. In case you seriously didn't know the hose clamp is for shaving the pills you can get them for like 2.80 or so at your local BP shape them into a nice little shaver and works great. I highly recommend grabbing yourself a pack if you have any consistency in any sort of divulgence in opiates lol. Also sometimes I'll use a razor blade afterwords to make the powder even more fine thus shortening the time taken to dissolve the mass. Also if you're railing it, it prevents flaking and clogging in your nostrils. :)
 
Hey, welcome to Bluelight. If you use a glass thermometer it really shouldn't interfere with the extraction, and even with a plastic one I can't see that it would have any chemicals on it that would contaminate the solution. I'd filter it twice, it doesn't take much effort so you might as well. Also be aware that 40mg of material is very small to the eye, so don't be disappointed when your yield looks small. Also, in future, if you're not sure where your thread belongs you can post it in the Homeless section.
 
Thanks for the reply yerg, whats up and thanks for the warm welcome. I just finished filtering the solution through two coffee filters at once, i was going to filter twice but i saw all the tylenol in the remaining filter and it looked like a decent yield so i just filtered it once because it took so long. lol

Anyway, I drank the solution and chased it with a shot of whiskey and am awaiting its effects. Hopefully I will feel something. It tasted bitter like it was supposed to so I have good expectations.

I will keep you guys updated on what happens, time for a cig.
 
So how did it go? You never updated lol so im assuming not as well as you planned. When working with such a small amount of opiates a CWE is not necessary at all. You would have been a lot better off just swallowing all those pills. Or crushing them up and parachuting them, but the hose clamp is a good idea I just cant imagine ever using a hose clamp for a Vic or perc lol must take forever to strain, ive only every used it for OCs and roxis.

Anyways hope you werent too bummed with your CWE, because when doing one of those you are bound to always lose some of the opiate. so you really probably only got 30mgs or less out of CWE. Next time you do one if you are looking for 40mgs you want to CWE 45-50mgs because you will end up losing some. However I really dont think you needed to do one at all with this small of a dose lol, it was just a lot of work to get rid of only 2500 acetaminophen (APAP).

Welcome to BL be safe and have fun
 
^I wouldn't ever take 2500mg of acetaminophen at once when a CWE is so easy.

To the OP: I'd recommend filtering through a piece of dress-shirt type cloth into the coffee filters for two main reasons. One, because the coffee filters won't clog nearly as quickly as the cloth catches most of the large particles. Two, because your yield will
be higher if you take what was filtered out in the first round, scrape it into water and re-cool to extract again. You get a little more acetaminophen this way, but the yield is alot better. You can minimize the acetaminophen problem by just using the least amount of water that works and preserving all water that's been exposed to the opioid.
 
2500mg of acetaminophen never killed anyone, and if it makes you feel sick or uncomfortable you probably shouldn't be messing around with drugs that contain it. Doing a CWE on 5 vics is a waste of time.
 
always1unknown said:
2500mg of acetaminophen never killed anyone, and if it makes you feel sick or uncomfortable you probably shouldn't be messing around with drugs that contain it. Doing a CWE on 5 vics is a waste of time.
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Right, and if it doesnt kill you and doesn't cause physical pain the next day, no harm done right? 8)
 
if it makes you feel sick or uncomfortable you probably shouldn't be messing around with drugs that contain it
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Hydrocodone doesn't contain anything except hydrocodone. Anyone who doesn't want to eat 2 and a half grams of paracetamol should just not bother with it? Why's that?
 
Physical pain the next day? The liver is an extremely strong organ, as I'm sure a smart educated person like you would know. As long as you arent the size of child, or don't already have a previous condition with your liver, it would have no problem filtering through that amount. I am by no means a big person and when i used to pop percs 5/325 i could pop 9 or 10, and there are plenty of people that can take much more than that and even more people that go over the 4000 daily limit and not face any consequences (not saying that is a smart thing for someone to take 4000 or go over it do put people do.). Someone taking vics for the first time which are 5/500 could take 4 no problem and be perfectly ok. On the other hand there are people who take on perc and just throw up because there body doesnt accept the drug. unless you are one of those people it wouldnt be an issue. Try not to worry so much about a little tummy ache or scare people when in reality its not a big deal.

The reason i said it was a waste of time is because as I'm sure you guys have read many people have trouble with the simple CWE and lose some of their opiates. so when using such a low dose yes it is a waste of time and opiates. Its cute how you two back each other up though LOL I'm sure one of you will post a reply ASAP and will get really defensive and try to come up with something extremely witty to say. So i apologize in advance if my reply is a few days late again lol. its post like yours that make the thread get off topic, especially in ones that should already be closed.
 
always1unknown said:
Physical pain the next day? The liver is an extremely strong organ, as I'm sure a smart educated person like you would know. As long as you arent the size of child, or don't already have a previous condition with your liver, it would have no problem filtering through that amount. I am by no means a big person and when i used to pop percs 5/325 i could pop 9 or 10, and there are plenty of people that can take much more than that and even more people that go over the 4000 daily limit and not face any consequences (not saying that is a smart thing for someone to take 4000 or go over it do put people do.). Someone taking vics for the first time which are 5/500 could take 4 no problem and be perfectly ok. On the other hand there are people who take on perc and just throw up because there body doesnt accept the drug. unless you are one of those people it wouldnt be an issue. Try not to worry so much about a little tummy ache or scare people when in reality its not a big deal.

The reason i said it was a waste of time is because as I'm sure you guys have read many people have trouble with the simple CWE and lose some of their opiates. so when using such a low dose yes it is a waste of time and opiates. Its cute how you two back each other up though LOL I'm sure one of you will post a reply ASAP and will get really defensive and try to come up with something extremely witty to say. So i apologize in advance if my reply is a few days late again lol. its post like yours that make the thread get off topic, especially in ones that should already be closed.
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My point was, you cannot feel liver damage. Saying "I took xyz just fine" has no medical value to it whatsoever, because you don't know the extent of damage that was caused to the organ. Something as simple as the type of food, or amount of food you've eaten can have a big affect on the toxicity of acetaminophen.

As I student, I've seen young patients present with symptoms that later ended up being hepatic failure from taking acetaminophen. Admittedly its turned me into somewhat of a acetaminophen nazi here, but there are worse things to be.

Liver damage can be cumulative, and many of the people here are or will become regular users so forgive me I don't see whats so evil about encouraging people to use the CWE. I don't see how posts like yours, which discourage those who already come to the table trying to use safe methods, fit the harm-reduction goal of this forum.
 
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