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Loperamide effectively got me off hydro & oxy- now I need help getting off lope!

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Opiate_videoguy

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Hey everybody... I'm new to this site but by no means new to using opiates & other various drugs. With me, It started out what I suppose is how it starts for most people... In december 2005 I was 19, and had started to notice an increasingly painful lump on my left testicle. Well, I did the one stupid thing I should not have done: I ignored it for about 6months because I was to embarrassed to get it looked at; stupid decision, but thankfully it wasnt cancerous, but it did require two surgeries. It was after the first surgery I found out how GOOD those post surgery pills made me feel... I don't think I have to describe how it made me feel. After the surgery I was working at a music store... Some of the customers gave me basically endless connections... After a year or two i NEVER had any money because of buying the damn pills...I knew I had a problem and I knew I needed to do something about it... I have tried methadone but I honestly still get a high from taking that... And I'm a bitch when it comes to that high... I ALWAYS end up giving in to it! So it felt like I was just trading one addiction for another...well I had heard about Imodium...loperamide. I had read that it took away the withdraws without giving any kind of high. Well, I tried it and to my surprise it actuall did the trick! now i know everybody is different but I honestly did and still do feel something like a high when I take it... It puts me in a good mood, I'm talkative and I feel like I can face the day and actually function. Again, I had replaced one addiction for another! All this was almost two years ago.... And I still take the lope almost daily. I'm scared to death about what kind of damage I could be doin to myself by taking it so much...and if I go more than two days without taking it, a withdrawal WAY WAY worse than regular pills sets in to the point where I just give in again and take more lope! And within a few hours, I feel normal again. I want to stop so bad and I've tried quite a few times but on about the third or fourth day in, that god awful withdrawel drags me down farther and farther until I give in... I've never made it more than a full week trying to stop... But on the third or fourth day it it just gets worse and worse every day I don't take it! I REALLY want to stop so bad! I honestly haven't told ANYONE else about this i know so it is also frustrating not being able to talk to anyone about it! I honestly just want to STOP taking it so bad! And for those that don't know lope IS an opiate your body treats it exactly as it would the rx pills, it just doesn't give you anywhere near the head buzz if the others... These withdraws are identical to any other opiate!! Any advice anyone?!?!
 
I'm in this same situation right now. It really is just a terrible withdrawal. I had gotten on Suboxone for awhile but when I couldn't afford that I ended up back on the Loperamide. The crazy thing about it is that when I got off the Sub and started on the lop again I got high as fuck. I was taking four mg of Sub twice daily. As soon as the withdrawal had hit the Loperamide had me NODDING! I think that's a real testament to the real strength of Loperamide. It really raises your tolerance, as well. I have to take twice as large shots of dope when I partake. Do you mind sharing what Loperamide dose you're taking, Videoguy? I'm just curious.
 
I can feel your pain. I used loperamide to get off full agonist opioids. While it curbed my withdrawal, I became addicted to the lop. I basically did a very slow taper off the loperamide and it worked with no withdrawal, it just took awhile. If u need more info let me know. I have been sober of opiates for over a year.
 
Hey I'm also new to blue light but seasoned in opiate and drug use. I know lopermide is very similar to opiates in molecular structure but canyou please elaborate on how you caught a "nod " off immodium..I know every one is different I for instant get a rush of 1-2mg of Iv suboxone ( thats neither here nor there but you get the point ) honestly I can't imagine getting any type of. High from immodium even with super sensitivity to opiates
 
damn same situation here too; addicted to lope, well dependent anyway. I do get a buzz at 50mg for sure though, kind of feels like the shit version of morphine. I wouldn't call it a high, but it's something and i take omeprazole which i suspect adds to whatever effects it gives.

Would it be better to switch over to codeine or kratom to avoid the harsh lope withdrawal? i've only been taking lope for a few weeks in total? I also noticed it fucking skyrocketed my tolerance for whatever reason.

so far i haven't found much info on lope withdrawal and i've read the threads above numerous times.

i guess taper taper is the best you can do, if the withdrawals are as harsh as strong opiates then i wouldn't be able to work/go to school through them.
 
Yeah I did an extremely long taper, like 2mgs a week, however I had no w/d. I was shocked when I stepped all the way off and felt fine.
 
I cringe when I think of how much of this shit I take every few days, but at the same time I don't feel normal or even really able to function unless I dose every few days. A year and a half ago I started at a 60mg dose; 45 minutes before I actually took the lope I would take cimetidine (name brand Tagamet) that would make it where my body would take more lope in. I would take the lope with 100% grapefruit juice (simply grapefruit) then I would take hylands leg cramp medicine because it has quinine in it.... THEN I would take FRS when I could afford it because it has quercitin (spelling?) in it. After taking all this my body really would metabolize the lope to a poi t where I would feel it.... I liked it to much. It was only later when I got the chance to take lortab I realized that because of how long the lope would bind to my opiate receptors the lortab had NO EFFECT whatsoever because of the lope! Now I've been on this shit for like a year an a half... I bought it when I could and stole it when I couldn't! My dose gradually increased over that year and a half period and as of todays dose, as absolutely ashamed I am to say, i usually dose around 288 pills (FOUR 72 count packs) that's 576 mg. keep In mind my first dose was 30 pills... 60 mg. I'm not joking at all I think about how much I've taken... And I'm surprised as hell I'm still alive & actually functioning...but hell I ride my bike between 10-20 miles per day! I know I have a problem and I really want to stop... I really like the 2mg at a time taper idea... I just need someone to talk to about it because noone knows, and so it is so easy to give in to take more when I'm the only one who knows I have the problem!!'
 
Oh yea and when i would up my dose sometimes I would literally choke on my own food because my breathing was so suppressed from the lope..... Absolutely stupid on my part!!!
 
Yea that's what goes through my mind every time... It's most definitely not something I jumped right to at one time... It was VERY gradual over the course of a year and a half, and even gradually increasing I would sti have heavily suppressed breathing on a few dose increases! Also you would think going to the bathroom would feel like trying to shit broken cinderblocks but that actually wasn't the case! I regularly take both psyllium husk fiber (Metamucil) mixed in with orange juice (it masks the flavor- actually makes it taste like sunny d when I mix it with orange juice- and then I take stool softener (docusate sodium) ... And when I take that believe it or not I stay completely regular!! Key point there... WHEN I TAKE IT! If i don't take it The constipation is still not as bad as with the pills I used to take, but it can still get pretty rough. I dosed yesterday and feel completely normal today because the doses last so long. My next dose I'm definitely going to start dosing down gradually.
 
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I saw a thread recently that a user named Melange died from taking a massive amount of loperamide. I don't know much about the stuff, but from what I've read about it (and took one time) its not really worth it in the long run.

I hope you can get it under control soon, that is a whole lot to be taking.
 
I think your best course of action is to taper down, and switch to suboxone. You don't know what this drug is doing to your insides, and you don't know how it's affecting you.

For those who say that it's ridiculous to switch from loperamide to suboxone: the withdrawal, addiction, and dependence of both is almost exactly identical. I would even go as far as saying the loperamide withdrawals are worst. They literally fuck up your insides.

With a maintenance drug, you know what your taking, your dosage is monitored, and you'll be under the supervision of a clinician.

Take my advice, get off that shit and switch to a maintenance drug. Your habit warrants it. The only thing I'm uncertain about is what dose you'll need to jump off at, and if that suboxone will even hold you. Loperamide is a much stronger drug than people give it credit for.
 
Chromophobia said:
I think your best course of action is to taper down, and switch to suboxone. You don't know what this drug is doing to your insides, and you don't know how it's affecting you.

For those who say that it's ridiculous to switch from loperamide to suboxone: the withdrawal, addiction, and dependence of both is almost exactly identical. I would even go as far as saying the loperamide withdrawals are worst. They literally fuck up your insides.

With a maintenance drug, you know what your taking, your dosage is monitored, and you'll be under the supervision of a clinician.

Take my advice, get off that shit and switch to a maintenance drug. Your habit warrants it. The only thing I'm uncertain about is what dose you'll need to jump off at, and if that suboxone will even hold you. Loperamide is a much stronger drug than people give it credit for.
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I agree. I think you should switch to subs or even done at this point. Taking that much lope cant be good and definitely doing more damage to your body than being in treatment. Maybe try to set up a meeting at a clinic for treatment. I know how it is though, sometimes you can not even afford treatment! I wish our shitty government could figure out a flippin way to give EVERYONE medical coverage for EVERYTHING. Its only a matter of time i think before Obama Care kicks in around 2014 i think. We have one of the worst medical coverage in the world!
 
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