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"Looping" in trips - Explain first hand accounts

Wow, thanks too, I'm glad it inspired you. I'm not sure how well I'd do in escaping a thought loop now, but holding onto the anchor that this is a trip might be enough to pull me out of it if it happens again. My experience was more about riding out the Blur... but the principle remains the same for any and all bad trips, unless you're so far out that you don't have any concept of tripping, such as with deliriants.

The trip report in question, for whoever's interested.)
 
Last acid trip I had, I had a little loop. A friend had called me on a friday and asked if I wanted to trip, on him. This is a friend I haven't hung out with a lot lately, because he had a kid and is a responsible parent. I couldn't do it that night because of previous plans, so he said we could do it monday. On monday I waited for him to call, after awhile I just called him and he came and picked me up. We took the first hits, and when we started to feel those hits we immediately took more. I was so surprised by how good the hits were, it was developing into a very strong trip. After awhile we are in our own minds, besides the tv there is just silence. Now my friend was getting texts an calls, and I got this idea in my head, that I am burdening him. First I invited myself over (because I called him), I took his drugs, and now it's his responsibility to deal with me and to take me home when he would rather be doing something else. This is what was going through my head at least. In reality, I'm getting just as many text messages/calls as him. So after awhile of what to me, was awkward silence, I asked him if I was keeping him from doing more important things. He says hell no, what he's doing is tripping with me. This pretty much dissolved this loop I was in.

I've been in more serious thought loops, and the easiest way for me to forget it, is external stimuli. Looking out the window, going for a short walk, drawing and playing the guitar. It usually gets me thinking in a new direction.
 
Story time,bare with me,and sorry that its longIt started with me at this underground rave in downtown LA around south central ( I know,it sounds bad,but it wasn't ghetto),and my friend had sold me 2 rolls(come to find out after the trip they were methylone) and I planned on doing tabs if I could find them. My friend/tripsitter is a common tripper who has done acid more times than he can count,and after searching the rave for me,found someone with some tabs,and picked up 6. he took 2 and I took 1. Within about 30 minutes I asked for another one and he gave it to me. By an hour,I was frying but wanted a 3rd. so he took his 3rd and gave me a 3rd as well. My friend was telling me this is the most visual acid hes ever taken(this is only my 3rd time doing acid,on other occasions only taking 1 tab). I remember during the rave,there was this person who was a vetaran from the iraq war and he was really FUBAR and was telling me graphic war stories even though I told him I was frying. Skip ahead about 5 hours. Its the end of the rave,about 4:45-5am,and my friend and I are still peaking on the tabs,my roll was gone but he had taken mollys and still felt good,while I was spiraling down into my own mental hell. As we drove to leave the rave,every 5-10 minutes I'd see us pass the rave again, and I'd question it but my friend wouldnt say anything about it. Then as we got on the freeway,I started to say "do you need the map?" and hed say no,but I'd keep asking if he needed the map or if we were lost every 30 seconds it seemed. At one point,I told him " I know whats going on.... just stop.... please stop...". I'd come to the conclusion that I had passed away and that hell was a recurring loop of a bad situation. Upon returning to where we were staying (a college campus) we returned to the room only to find that my friend and I were the only ones there ( come to find others were home,just asleep). Everyone I talked to had " ^ " shaped eyebrows and had pupils that filled their entire eye,as well as hearing things they weren't saying. At one point my friend offered me a bong hit and I took it,but it didn't even phase me,(I live in california,and he is a medical patient,he had a bowl with herb and 60 / g hash on it). We sat there listening to music and he put on deadmau5's "ghosts n stuff" (lol,this really made me think I was dead) so I decided itd be best to just lay down and try to sleep it off. every time I would lay down on the couch, within 30 seconds I'd pop back up,and start my outbursts of "How do I get out of this...?!" at one point,contemplating suicide because I had been hearing "wake up! come on, wake up!" being said by multiple people,thinking I was unconscious at the rave. I almost forgot the most important part x.x I had been forcefully trying to call my dad because I thought I needed to call him to end the trip,so as I tried doing it,my friends took my phone and kept it from me,but a few times I had actually dialed the number and it rang,one time he even picked up x.x but they hung up. Also,sometime while I was peaking I called 411 asking to speak with my dad haha,when they asked me to spell his last name,(lets pretend its Para) So I said "Para with a P" and my friends had started laughing uncontrollably as they took the phone from my hands because they thought I was talking to a machine instead of an operator.
 
On one hit of decent acid I'd say 100mics, I got a wonderful phone call from Care Now...
My STD tests are in.! (at the time I had something, but no idea what but it was almost gone from antibiotics)

I'm with my best friend D whos on two, I immediiately started thinking I had something uncurable, & if I did I was going to kill myself no doubt. First & last time I ever even thought of suicide, those thoughts completely took control though.

Went into care now having a panic attack, got my results, all negative, felt waves of energy shoot thru me, felt like a fuckin rocket going into space....

Learned a lot from that trip
 
I have had "thought loops" on each mushroom trip I have ever had, which would be around 10 times. Usually it lasts for about an hour I'd say and is never fun. Some are bad and some not so bad. I always hold it together but am very quiet or even laying down somewhere until it rides out.

The worst thought loop would have to have been my first mushroom trip, I was very uneducated bout shrooms so I began to think I was stuck in a trip and would never get out. Funny how I was FREAKING OUT in my head in tears and the minute my gf answered her phone I was FINE! She asked what was wrong and I couldn't even tell her because everything was good again. This was 3-4 years ago.

More recently on my last msuhroom trip, bout 2 months ago, I had a shitty thought loop that ruined a nice chunk of the trip. I kept thinking I had to throw up, I wasn't very naseous at all; I just kept thinking to myself that I was gonna ahve to puke any minute. I could't take it anymore and went to lay down in my friends spare room. Here for 30 minutes, ( before looking at the clock I thought I was laying there for atleast 2 hours) I began to keep thinking how stupid I was for doing drugs over n over again, and other things I don't remember anymore.

Basically, this is why I don't wanna do shrooms anymore. I would rather do some cid and have an enjoyabke trip. After 6 trips I have not had any bad experiences.
 
I in turn can relate to this (I think from the DXM trip before things went really bad):

this is amazing, why is this so amazing? no, HOW is this so amazing? no, WHAT is THIS? SO AMAZING!!! But really what is this? why is this happening, I always forget how amazing these experiences are. I always forget these experiences. If I don't remember this , its like it didn't happen. If it didn't actually happen, then it isn't happening now, and if its not happening, its not amazing, This IS NOT AMAZING!!!! not amazing, un-amazing, TERRIFYING!!!!! I like .... do I like..... ? ..... What is this!!!??...

THIS IS AMAZING!!!....

And this (from SecondPull's link on the first page):

SecondPull said:
fuckfuckfuckfuckfuck this is where I will be for the rest of my life in this netherworld of surreality unable to distinguish where thought ends and reality begins hahahahahaha what a silly boy you are there is no reality nothing at all real only fabrications of this misfiring neural wiring in your head in the morning I have to call my parents have to tell them what happened just come clean tell them I need help they’ll put me on an antipsychotic haldol something to pull me out of this I’ll be done that’ll be the end of things my life is effectively over but at least I won’t be CRAZY anymore I just need to call them but OHHHHHHH FUCK none of this is even real and neither are they hahahahahaaaaaaaaaa I’ll just call my imaginary parents and they’ll come in an imaginary car to pick me up me who doesn’t even know who me is because it’s all unreality won’t someone please please please help me

God, it's fucking horrible. :(
 


hip to the jip
jip to the hip

HAHAHA! I just read a blog that took the piss out of what would happen if psychedelics became legal commodities. Ads on TV: "Take Kellogg's acid - you'll trip balls!"

Must be an idea passing through the collective unconscious of trippers.
 
Last year I felt this fucking loop hitting me hard as hell, it was probaly the worst bad trip I've ever had.....


My friend was leaving to a rave and he asked me to drive him there, using his car. So I asked him to stay at his flat during the rave with my girlfriend.
He enjoyed the idea.. but somehow I wanted to take some acid and my girlfriend didn't. so I invited 2 friends (I had 3 hits) and we did it.

Something was wrong, I guess that shit was way too strong, never tripped like that before (and after).
I was with 2 friends listening to pink floyd as my girlfriend went to bed to take a nap.

Somehow a crazy idea invaded my mind. by the time I was sure everything was happening on loops and I wans't able to leave that EVER. the music playing, was Us and Them, which occurs in loop too.. and my friends were having fun for a long time at the internet, playing some flash game...

and everywhere I looked the same exact things happens.. and I though: "ok. this is it. everything ends here. that's life.. OMG THAT'S LIFE, THIS IS ALL WE ARE! (i'm atheist)".. so an existencial crises burnt my mind for life..

Total ego loss... everything just is, and everything has no purpose or after.. very hard to discribe this part... I cryed a lot, felt the worst sadness of my life..

Another thing I remember is that I thought for a moment that there is a web over the time/space which to move from where I am and do something else, another one was going to trade me positions... like: if I was going to use the computer someone was going to sit where I was and be what I'm being atm.. again this is fucking hard to discribe, but it was something like a web very deeply put togheter.

So I went to the bedroom and called my girlfriend. told here I was having a bad trip and I needed her help... she talked to me for a while.. the only thing I wanted as too see things going on.. things moving, anything... she just played a stupid cell phone that made me feel better.

Nevertheless, at some point I lost any conscious of time/space.. asked her to tell me how long has it been since I dropped.. she told me 60 mins.. I waited a long painful time and asked again... and she told me "come on man, fuck you.. it has been 10 seconds you asked me".. so I realized how fucked up I was..


There's a lot of info during this trip but this is the mainly! see ya
 
I get a lot of thought loops from 4-aco-dmt. Usually they're negative and happen on the come-up. The last time I tripped, I got caught in a loop of thinking about how nauseous I was, which only made it worse. That and I started thinking about a spider that I saw earlier in my room (which is where I was while thinking about it), which made me anxious, and I couldn't stop worrying about it for a period of time.

But the weirdest loop I got stuck in was while I was walking outside down a path while talking to my friend. I'd look at him, and it looked like we were just walking in place, getting nowhere. I kept seeing this until we reached an intersection, in which I finally realized that we had actually made progress in walking.
 
One time at a party i had taken 2 blue stars, which at the time were MDA based, and 2 hits of 100mic LSD.

I ran down my friends stairs and jumped onto his bed. This repeated its self 3 times. When i would hit the bed it would rewind and i would run down the stairs again, jump on the bed then it would rewind again.

Then when i came too, i was on the bed where 3 other people had been and they were smoking a bowl and i jumped up and yelled WHAT THE FUCKK! HOW LONG HAVE I BEEN HERE?

It was very confusing, but not scary by any means.

Holy fuck! I never got such effects, I don't even hallucinate. 8( 8(


Also once I got looping. I realized it and couldn't get out of it. It was hell of a bad trip, which didn't really meant anything. I just saw my dad doing cocaine (he is anti-drug), so it really was fucking with me.
 
I felt what I see as my Higher Self, an all-encompassing entity that was ultra cool - all about love and strange hilarity, non-judgementally and compassionately reprogramming my brain. Like, going through all the egotistical bullshit that was jading my view of reality and showing me through logic that I was wrong and how hilarious and full of love and life everything actually was. It was pretty uncomfortable at the time. It basically felt like my mind was getting raped - uncomfortable thought loops repeating over and over and over again deep in my subconscious, directly revealing to me the most fundamental issues I have with myself. I fought with it for a little while until I just gave in to it and experienced liberation. I'm a bit of a lost soul but I've known for a long time that deep down I am pure goodness and perfectly okay - my type exemplifies those who benefit most from psychedelic use I believe. I was literally running away from myself for a little while but I would always end up back at the same location in space, wondering what the hell I was running away from, what I was afraid of and why. Eventually I realized that there was nothing I could do to hide from myself whatever it was I was hiding and just let go (in real life I was pretty fucked up at the time - extremely, hopelessly addicted to smokin pot and my life was being downright fucked from it cause it makes me so timid). This was the peak and prior to this I was running around a marsh barefoot in the dead of night having a hell of a wild time. And afterwards, well, I've never felt so free. And I've never been the same since - since then I have been seeing very positive changes in myself.

This batch of blotter was apparently overdosed accidentally by the whoever laid it out and I know people who have had the same print but say it was just average potency. However, 1 hit of this stuff completely blew away by epic proportions 5 hits of the previous strongest acid I have acquired (and I've got ahold of a fair variety at this point so I know what the average stuff is like). Most of what's going around these days, they just don't make it strong enough at all. I consider myself very lucky to have acquired this crazy acid, but I also think that it was just meant to be, because I really needed it. Higher doses of acid = potentially extremely difficult, entirely worthwhile, liberating experiences.
 
1st time i looped i was with a buddy on the same dose of lsd, for a good 2 hours the trip was everything i could ever ask for mentally and visually, then we stopped communicating, shortly after that i started forgeting everything i knew, my name up down left right, etc.. it got to where i didnt know what i was looking at everything was swirling really hard and the swirling would slow down really slow then itd blast off again, at the peak of the experience there was no thoughts just blankness i was scared shitless but i couldnt do nothing nor move. we dosed around midnight and the sun came up as im towards the end of my loop out of no where i look out the window and i see the sun light and i go "oh the suns out lets go outside" bam i popped out of it we go out side and stat talking about this experience, at first we were hesitent to talk about it like it was gonna come back for us. this experience changed me more than anything else iv ever encountered and im thankful for it
 
LSD (sugar cube) DPT (250mg) MDPV (eyeballed high dose)
I was recently in Hobart, Tasmania and it was definitely one of those experiences that change everything about you. What could possibly be the most insane chaotic environment? A drag queen parade in a gay bar – my friend and I attended the madness. Drag queens and gay bars aren’t necessarily that insane but under the influence on a “school days dress up” event night how can one deny?

As people dressed as priests, school boys, teachers began to morph into demons, hobgoblins, minatours and centipede people I could not help but think what the rest of the night would bring seeming as this was the very beginning. Anyway, my friend and I left this place to explore further insanity around Hobart (objective complete) we returned to the gay bar – the monster mash was still going.

At one stage I had to visit the bathroom. I was desperate and all I was drinking after my six bag of Boags was water over and over again. The toilet was a frequent visit. I entered the toilets and there was but one cubicle – in use. Someone grunting, groaning, as though it was very difficult to urinate – this person had black doc martens with black pants tucked into them. He was taking so long and I was pacing around the bathroom (for some reason) so much I just upped and left. The whole time I was in that bathroom I felt this sense of aloneness which strikes me quite a bit…

I went down to the bar, danced, went insane, unintentionally yelled at people, was told I was “completely off ya fuckin’ head mate!” when I felt that urge to urinate once more. I went to the bathroom and someone was leaving as soon as I was coming in – normal. I raced to the cubical when suddenly I was standing above the toilet, it was so impossible to let it out. I began to grunt and groan in not necessarily agony but frustration – and who else but was in the cubicle alone, wearing black pants tucked into black doc martens boots? Me. Alone again, with time split into two. How does the self (God) witness the self? If God is completely alone then how does it see itself at the same time, only in another frame of it?

This is when I realised I had easily reached beyond the ultimate, when the self discovers its true identity – All as one is that there is is you. It becomes all too much to conceive!
 
Hehe well I'm not sure I have ever truly looped, but I saw some younger ~18 year old guy at a small festival in Ohio 2 summers ago that definitely was.

It was mid-afternoon and we were at our camp, having dropped cid earlier. All of a sudden we notice these two guys laughing hysterically ducked behind some bushes about 20 feet in front of us across the walk path.

We yelled a few things at them, asked what was so funny but got no answer. I think we asked what they were on and they said shrooms, maybe not. But mostly they were just laughing real loud nonstop.

After a few minutes they walked off and so did we after maybe 30 minutes, heading towards the stage. At the stage we see one of the guys, but not his friend.

This dude is laying on the ground... doing snow angels in the gravel, real fast. Freaking gravel angels on a hot, sunny August afternoon!

I think someone tried to stop him but he wouldn't. We saw him go at it for at least a few minutes before someone got the medical people and they strapped him down in a stretcher. Some girl took a video with her camera and said she would post it to youtube but I never found it. Later we saw his friend and told him. He had no clue what happened and didn't know where his buddy was. He said he had gone back to camp and passed out lol.
 
I have a question, coming from three really bad trips, all of them being connected. In these bad trip, I always feel like I'm dead, and that everybody in the world is out on a massive prank against me. I start thinking about heaven and hell, and I get stuck in these thought loops thinking that I'm dead, why did I take the acid, and just questioning everything. I keep thinking I'll be stuck like that forever, etc.

People tell me I need to just let go, is letting go the same case in a though loop? Is what I described even a though loop?
 
A thought loop is usually one or two thoughts that play off each other for ages, and you just get stuck thinking the same thing over and over. Try drinking some scullcap tea before / during your trip to ease anxiety and help you let go. Letting go is obviously going to be harder in a thought loop because you might not remember you're tripping at all, or just be very confused in general.
 
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