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Heroin Looking for some advice on avoiding H addiction

38slug

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hey, swim is looking to cop 2 grams of some killer h Tomorrow. swim has no tolerance and intends to only snort this dope. First off, swim is a recovering addict but H is not his drug of choice because he is a Polysubstance user and doesn't have one. Swim wants to avoid at all costs becoming addicted to that shit any advice? ideas? Ill have to see how it affects swim but he has ADHD and and tends to be more active under the euphoric effects from blowing lines. swim has previously gone to art museums while taking morphine sulfate 40 mg and he had a great time looking at shit
again, if anyone has strategies to avoid addiction while using their DOC in moderation (not just h) and or jus tips


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Hi 38slug. We don't use SWIM here so please edit your post to use proper first person pronouns.

I think we might need a conglomerate thread on methods of avoiding addiction.

Use less drugs. Don't use every day. Use as least often as possible. Don't associate using with any particular time/occasion/mood/etc.
 
Not using it at all is the only way to 100% prevent addiction. Outside of abstinence, staying away from IVing and keeping your use infrequent will help but you will still have cravings. I would strongly advise against buying two grams because the temptation will always be there.
 
Word, the only way I've been able to use opiates responsibly is by only using them when I can get them for free, which is quite rarely. If you doubt your ability to use H responsibly enough to ask how to avoid addiction, there's a good chance you'll end up fucked no matter what you try. Ask yourself whether the transient pleasure the drug would provide is worth the potential detriments of addiction. If no, reconsider gettin' involved with dope, if yes, welcome aboard the H Express, next stop junkie town.


I also second the not IV-ing suggestion, once I started shooting up, every other ROA felt wasteful (I've never done H, but even weaker opiates can get the better of ya rather easily).

However, if you must use, in my experience dealing with drugs I find very psychologically addictive, once a month is the way to go. No more, ever under any circumstances. Not even if your lover goes crazy and murders your entire family and then commits suicide the same week you got fired. Even using once every two weeks leads me to ill advised binges on various drugs.
 
hey, swim is looking to cop 2 grams of some killer h Tomorrow. swim has no tolerance and intends to only snort this dope. First off, swim is a recovering addict but H is not his drug of choice because he is a Polysubstance user and doesn't have one. Swim wants to avoid at all costs becoming addicted to that shit any advice? ideas? Ill have to see how it affects swim but he has ADHD and and tends to be more active under the euphoric effects from blowing lines. swim has previously gone to art museums while taking morphine sulfate 40 mg and he had a great time looking at shit
again, if anyone has strategies to avoid addiction while using their DOC in moderation (not just h) and or jus tips


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mod note: We don't allow discussion on how to beat the authorities.

As a poly-substance abuser, you are playing russian roulette with an automatic pistol by doing heroin when you have never done it before. Have fun man, you are going to ruin your life tomorrow.
 
I chipped for seven years before I got an addiction. I thought people who got addicted were just being stupid. Then I got a prescription for morphine, and the weekends got longer and longer.

The only guy I know who has used heroin and been able to binge without addiction is an alcoholic. I think it's easier if you have a different drug of choice. He turned myself and two of my friends onto heroin etc., and all three ended up with multi-year opiate addictions. I don't blame him--gotta take some personal responsibility for my own choices. But I still wish I hadn't met him--I would never have considered IV'g.
 
oh?

As a poly-substance abuser, you are playing russian roulette with an automatic pistol by doing heroin when you have never done it before. Have fun man, you are going to ruin your life tomorrow.

fuck you. i just blew thta shit right about now - i can already vision getting up tomarrow being sober cuz im not a fuckin pussy and i dont let the addictions get to me and im not gunna cop again for 2 weeks i was a functioning addict all the way through high school just try not to say shit when you have no fucking idea

excuse my language swim just blew a lin of some good H
 
Can't you see yourself? You're on an online drug-discussion website, telling us you're about to take heroin and asking how to avoid addiction; do you think that is normal behaviour? NOTE that I am not condemning you since I have obviously been where you are myself.

The ONLY way to avoid addiction is abstinence - can you, or anyone here, name even ONE person who ever managed to use opiates casually? Not since De Quincey and the writers, or Hippocrates and the physicians, not anywhere in the world, has a person been able to do this. The difficulty is that you can only integrate opiates by remaining indifferent to them; but by using them you very quickly begin to care greatly about them. It's a paradox, like most things in drug addiction.

S
 
ya but if i say im not going to cop again in the next 2 weeks i mean im not going to cop again i do not just follow up and binge on drugs anymore I have been through enough drug treatment that I can responsibly use a hard drug without letting it take hold of me . i will always know when enough is enough. And yes, i do have close friends who have been able to use to use oc responsibly
 
ya but if i say im not going to cop again in the next 2 weeks i mean im not going to cop again i do not just follow up and binge on drugs anymore I have been through enough drug treatment that I can responsibly use a hard drug without letting it take hold of me . i will always know when enough is enough. And yes, i do have close friends who have been able to use to use oc responsibly

Haha "OC" and "responsibly" don't go in the same sentence. I dunno why you are asking us how to avoid addiction if you already know so much about the subject, sounds like you have it all under control buddy. Thing is, we all had it under control.... right up until we realized we were lying to ourselves. I was homeless and had let roughly 20 grand go on opiates before I broke down and said "ok maybe I'm not at all in control anymore". Whats said, and exceptionally stupid on your part...

1: If you actually knew all the BS you are spitting about addiction, you would be running b/c you would know that opiates are a one way street. Less than 4% of people walk away from opiate addiction. You take 200 people, put 100 through B.U.D.S to be Navy Seals, and try to get 100 heroin addicts clean. You wanna know what you end up with? You will get 6 navy seals, 99 heroin addicts, and one person who will remain clean.

2: Here's my favorite one... Most of the people here did not start out on heroin, I did not start out on heroin... I started out on Hydrocodone... Then I moved to OC's... This was years before I knew how addictive they were. Do you have any idea what I would do to have had a forum full of people telling me what a stupid mistake I was making.

You don't have to come back and tell us how opiates OWNED you like they did most of the rest of us, we know whats going to happen to you. Good luck ... <snip>
 
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Haha "OC" and "responsibly" don't go in the same sentence. I dunno why you are asking us how to avoid addiction if you already know so much about the subject, sounds like you have it all under control buddy. Thing is, we all had it under control.... right up until we realized we were lying to ourselves. I was homeless and had let roughly 20 grand go on opiates before I broke down and said "ok maybe I'm not at all in control anymore". Whats said, and exceptionally stupid on your part...

1: If you actually knew all the BS you are spitting about addiction, you would be running b/c you would know that opiates are a one way street. Less than 4% of people walk away from opiate addiction. You take 200 people, put 100 through B.U.D.S to be Navy Seals, and try to get 100 heroin addicts clean. You wanna know what you end up with? You will get 6 navy seals, 99 heroin addicts, and one person who will remain clean.

2: Here's my favorite one... Most of the people here did not start out on heroin, I did not start out on heroin... I started out on Hydrocodone... Then I moved to OC's... This was years before I knew how addictive they were. Do you have any idea what I would do to have had a forum full of people telling me what a stupid mistake I was making.

You don't have to come back and tell us how opiates OWNED you like they did most of the rest of us, we know whats going to happen to you. Good luck...<snip>

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i dont think anything about what i said is stupid. i have never been strongly addicted to opoids so this proves as an advantage because I DO NOT intend to use H for a cretin mound to time until i feel comfortable that i can use the drug again and not buy more then enough to get fucked up 3 times. its really that simple i do this with all drugs I have no DOc
 
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Abstinence is really the only way. I use till im running my head into the wall then survive on bud to combat addiction (which really doesn't work i feel good for maybe a couple minutes then my head splits). it really ain't for you if your going for round two and think your gunna stop.
 
Jesus man, you need to take it easy and stop flying off the handle. YOU came here to ask for opinions and that's exactly what you're getting. The thing is that because we're all or have been addicts we know EXACTLY what you are like; you wanted us to say "oh yeah, just get high and have a real nice time and then stop in this way..." but that's all bullshit. If you're asking for advice online it means that you know, somewhere inside you, that you're playing with fire. It's that simple. So stop insulting people who are only giving you the honesty you clearly need.

S
 
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@ OP: Everyone here is merely trying to help you. If you don't think advice to not use heroin is prudent and don't want multiple personal testimonials about how heroin addiction has hurt others who started off just like you, then just ignore it.

@ everybody else: Guys feel free to mention that you don't think it is a good idea to start with H, however it seems the OP is set on doing this so please also include further advice such as how to minimize usage, stay as safe as possible, and plans to prevent addiction (no matter the likelihood of success), if you wish to post.

Like always there is no need for personal attacks nor anything that can be construed as such.

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i dont think anything about what i said is stupid. i have never been strongly addicted to opoids so this proves as an advantage because I DO NOT intend to use H for a cretin mound to time until i feel comfortable that i can use the drug again and not buy more then enough to get fucked up 3 times. its really that simple i do this with all drugs I have no DOc

Well, you were rather rude earlier, no need to break out the "F*ck you" stuff, and as a matter of fact, I do know exactly what I'm talking about. I've been there, I've stood right in your shoes right now. My circumstances were a little different, but opiates have basically ruined my life. They are fun. When you start, it really feels like you can control it. It took me about 3 years to develop a habit at all. Then it took another year before I started to have withdrawal symptoms. Slowly but surely I started doing opiates all the time. It's not like you are going to do a gram or two, and sell your house and everything you own right away. Opiate usage, and especially Heroin slowly but surely takes over you. You end up living for one thing and one thing only, to get more opiates. You know its stupid, but it doesn't matter. Once you are addicted, its there forever. It isn't like you can quit doing heroin and its just gone. You think about it all the time, you never ever feel right again. I think about dope every single solitary day. No matter how long you stay clean, you will not see the sun rise then set without craving some. It's not a craving like you wanna smoke pot.... Opiate cravings will rule you. Dope sickness is no joke either, going through w/d's from strong opiates is a rough, rough experience. Everyone here will tell you that w/d's have broken them. I'm not trying to float my own boat or anything, but I'm a tough, mentally strong person. I've spent as much time as anyone else here crying like a little girl because I was so dope sick.

I'm not trying to put you down, no one here is. You have found one of the most accepting communities online. I can tell by your comment about being a functioning addict through high school that you probably aren't all that old. Telling me "try not to say shit when you have no idea" tells me the same. There's no need for all that. You don't like our answer, I know. Honestly, I don't like the idea of not doing opiates myself, but I'm already an addict. I'd do anything to not deal with what I have to deal with on a daily basis. I hate opiates, and wish I had never tried the first pain pill. Today, the only way I ever feel normal is when I'm on opiates, or take a xanax. As a result of my extreme addiction, I have permanent GAD. It never goes away no matter how long I stay clean for. It has taken most of the things in my life I enjoy.

As for your original topic. The only way to avoid addiction is to not ever do it. You can casually use opiates for a while, you won't be addicted in a day. It took me years, it started out just enjoying a few pain pills here and there. Unfortunately, you can be very functional on opiates, and this is what gets everyone. You can do them all day long every day, and at first, you may even be more productive. I would always make way way more money when I bar tended on Oxycontin. Usually about twice as much. There are just so many ways to get pulled in slowly, but surely. They have this incredible way of making you lie to yourself and rationalize everything in the best possible manner. It's easy to rationalize getting a bag, or an oc, or whatever for your shift at work when it means you will make twice as much money isn't it? It just doesn't go that way forever. Eventually, you get dope sick. Then you need opiates to feel normal. At that point, they will own you forever. I never ever thought I'd stick myself with a needle. I have. I never thought I'd steal to support my habit, I have. I'm so ashamed of how I lived my life for so long. I still have a bit of a habit today. I'm not on the needle anymore, I don't ever steal anything anymore, but I still do pills sometimes. I fight it every day. Every day of my life I wake up craving pills. Every single thing I do in my life is connected with opiates, no matter what I do, I always wish I had some dope to do too. It's there everyday, I hate it, but it will probably never go away. I just do better. I only use pills about twice a week. On the surface, you might think I'm in control. Well, I'm not in control. If I could afford it, I'd do pills all day every day. The only thing I am limited by is money, like 99.9999% of addicts.

You are on a forum full of functional addicts. It amazes me you can tell us we don't know whats going on, or whats up. Why do you think we are on this forum? Most of us are functional opiate addicts specifically. Look up my posts and you can read all about what I've been through. Not all heroin addicts are homeless on the streets. Many of us have jobs, and live "normal" lives. We carry a burden though, a sickness. A sickness that breaks us down to tears, that hurts everyone around us. We ourselves hate it, but for lack of a better term its just too damn late for us. We have wised up, and know what to do to help limit our addiction. We still go to work on days that we feel like, and usually wish we were dying. It takes all our money, it's a disgustingly expensive habit, I've had to spend $50 per day to keep from being sick before. There is almost no emotion or color left in our life when we are out of dope. I know plenty of people who have a family, are raising kids, and you would never know it from the outside if you didn't know them, but they carry a terrible burden every day. I wish you understood how bad it is man. In fact, maybe you shouldn't be talking when you have no idea, because you don't. You might think it was easy to be a functional drug addict in high school, but you weren't addicted to anything with the keeping power Heroin has. You ARE NOT stronger than heroin. I'm not trying to put you down, but that's how it is. I know you are strong willed, and obviously you think you have it figured out. You just have no idea what you are walking into. It will destroy you man, it will take everything from you. Please listen to what we are saying. If ONE good thing can come out of the hell I live through every day, it will be that no one else has to go through it.
 
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i dont think anything about what i said is stupid. i have never been strongly addicted to opoids so this proves as an advantage because I DO NOT intend to use H for a cretin mound to time until i feel comfortable that i can use the drug again and not buy more then enough to get fucked up 3 times. its really that simple i do this with all drugs I have no DOc

BTW, you sound exactly like a close friend of mine who I begged not to start snorting OC's. He wasn't specifically addicted to anything, he would just do any drug that would get him fucked up. He was actually doing coke a lot at the time. His reasoning was that because he just liked drugs, that OC's would be no different. At that time, he had a girlfriend, a nice car, and a house. Right now, he lives with his dad in miami and bangs all the heroin he can get his hands on. He went from no DOC, to only one drug he even gives a shit about. He won't even do anything else anymore, barely drinks even. I know I've said this a lot, but I really hope it gets through to you. You can not just casually use Heroin. It's the most addictive drug there is. Everyone starts out casually using it and obstinately saying they can control it because it feels so damn good. We all lost though man, you don't have too. You have a chance to do what most of us here did not do, stay away from the devil himself. You won't win, you'll loose! Just don't be one of us!
 
Can't you see yourself? You're on an online drug-discussion website, telling us you're about to take heroin and asking how to avoid addiction; do you think that is normal behaviour? NOTE that I am not condemning you since I have obviously been where you are myself.

The ONLY way to avoid addiction is abstinence - can you, or anyone here, name even ONE person who ever managed to use opiates casually? Not since De Quincey and the writers, or Hippocrates and the physicians, not anywhere in the world, has a person been able to do this. The difficulty is that you can only integrate opiates by remaining indifferent to them; but by using them you very quickly begin to care greatly about them. It's a paradox, like most things in drug addiction.

S

Very true, I don't do em a lot but unlike any other drug, I care about opiates, almost in a loving way. Science has shown that some people get addicted to the early process of falling in love (aka a lot of people have affairs etc). Opiates are similar. I care about opiates just like one would care about a brother or an old friend. It's almost like an unbreakable relationship. The way I manage it however is by treating them as a bad friend. They;ll always be a friend but you dont wanna hang around them too often. That has worked reasonable well for me. Anything else is a one-way trip to hell. Also, it would be ideal to act as if I am indifferent to them, but the truth is I am not and never will be.
 
Well, you were rather rude earlier, no need to break out the "F*ck you" stuff, and as a matter of fact, I do know exactly what I'm talking about. I've been there, I've stood right in your shoes right now. My circumstances were a little different, but opiates have basically ruined my life. They are fun. When you start, it really feels like you can control it. It took me about 3 years to develop a habit at all. Then it took another year before I started to have withdrawal symptoms. Slowly but surely I started doing opiates all the time. It's not like you are going to do a gram or two, and sell your house and everything you own right away. Opiate usage, and especially Heroin slowly but surely takes over you. You end up living for one thing and one thing only, to get more opiates. You know its stupid, but it doesn't matter. Once you are addicted, its there forever. It isn't like you can quit doing heroin and its just gone. You think about it all the time, you never ever feel right again. I think about dope every single solitary day. No matter how long you stay clean, you will not see the sun rise then set without craving some. It's not a craving like you wanna smoke pot.... Opiate cravings will rule you. Dope sickness is no joke either, going through w/d's from strong opiates is a rough, rough experience. Everyone here will tell you that w/d's have broken them. I'm not trying to float my own boat or anything, but I'm a tough, mentally strong person. I've spent as much time as anyone else here crying like a little girl because I was so dope sick.

I'm not trying to put you down, no one here is. You have found one of the most accepting communities online. I can tell by your comment about being a functioning addict through high school that you probably aren't all that old. Telling me "try not to say shit when you have no idea" tells me the same. There's no need for all that. You don't like our answer, I know. Honestly, I don't like the idea of not doing opiates myself, but I'm already an addict. I'd do anything to not deal with what I have to deal with on a daily basis. I hate opiates, and wish I had never tried the first pain pill. Today, the only way I ever feel normal is when I'm on opiates, or take a xanax. As a result of my extreme addiction, I have permanent GAD. It never goes away no matter how long I stay clean for. It has taken most of the things in my life I enjoy.

As for your original topic. The only way to avoid addiction is to not ever do it. You can casually use opiates for a while, you won't be addicted in a day. It took me years, it started out just enjoying a few pain pills here and there. Unfortunately, you can be very functional on opiates, and this is what gets everyone. You can do them all day long every day, and at first, you may even be more productive. I would always make way way more money when I bar tended on Oxycontin. Usually about twice as much. There are just so many ways to get pulled in slowly, but surely. They have this incredible way of making you lie to yourself and rationalize everything in the best possible manner. It's easy to rationalize getting a bag, or an oc, or whatever for your shift at work when it means you will make twice as much money isn't it? It just doesn't go that way forever. Eventually, you get dope sick. Then you need opiates to feel normal. At that point, they will own you forever. I never ever thought I'd stick myself with a needle. I have. I never thought I'd steal to support my habit, I have. I'm so ashamed of how I lived my life for so long. I still have a bit of a habit today. I'm not on the needle anymore, I don't ever steal anything anymore, but I still do pills sometimes. I fight it every day. Every day of my life I wake up craving pills. Every single thing I do in my life is connected with opiates, no matter what I do, I always wish I had some dope to do too. It's there everyday, I hate it, but it will probably never go away. I just do better. I only use pills about twice a week. On the surface, you might think I'm in control. Well, I'm not in control. If I could afford it, I'd do pills all day every day. The only thing I am limited by is money, like 99.9999% of addicts.

You are on a forum full of functional addicts. It amazes me you can tell us we don't know whats going on, or whats up. Why do you think we are on this forum? Most of us are functional opiate addicts specifically. Look up my posts and you can read all about what I've been through. Not all heroin addicts are homeless on the streets. Many of us have jobs, and live "normal" lives. We carry a burden though, a sickness. A sickness that breaks us down to tears, that hurts everyone around us. We ourselves hate it, but for lack of a better term its just too damn late for us. We have wised up, and know what to do to help limit our addiction. We still go to work on days that we feel like, and usually wish we were dying. It takes all our money, it's a disgustingly expensive habit, I've had to spend $50 per day to keep from being sick before. There is almost no emotion or color left in our life when we are out of dope. I know plenty of people who have a family, are raising kids, and you would never know it from the outside if you didn't know them, but they carry a terrible burden every day. I wish you understood how bad it is man. In fact, maybe you shouldn't be talking when you have no idea, because you don't. You might think it was easy to be a functional drug addict in high school, but you weren't addicted to anything with the keeping power Heroin has. You ARE NOT stronger than heroin. I'm not trying to put you down, but that's how it is. I know you are strong willed, and obviously you think you have it figured out. You just have no idea what you are walking into. It will destroy you man, it will take everything from you. Please listen to what we are saying. If ONE good thing can come out of the hell I live through every day, it will be that no one else has to go through it.

Seco- I really liked this post and wanted to thank you for taking the time writing this....cheers dude. I think I might even copy and save it to read every now and then as inspiration.



And 38SLUG, he speaks the truth. Figure this out: I smoked some extremely strong heroin at 15 once, and never ever found out what it was. But it was such an unbelievable experience I pretty much never forgot it and thought of it most days for the last 14 years until 2 years ago I officially discovered opiates.....then i knew what that gear back then was. and as previously mentionned once ur in it for a while you will never see the sun rise and set ever again without thinking of it (massive burden IMHO).....i have loads of money an can do whatever i want, but one thing i will never ever have a again and thats a day without that first heroin rush on my mind....e.g. I set off for a trip to SI\ingapore on hollies, all my mates around me are happy...me too, but Im different. I've already had H on my mind sitting there in the plane, that instantly takes the joy away and one realizes one can never ever be as happy and normal as other people and enjoy simple things, like that said holiday, to the full extent....I mean what kind off fucking life is that....its damnation
 
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Seco- I really liked this post and wanted to thank you for taking the time writing this....cheers dude. I think I might even copy and save it to read every now and then as inspiration.



And 38SLUG, he speaks the truth. Figure this out: I smoked some extremely strong heroin at 15 once, and never ever found out what it was. But it was such an unbelievable experience I pretty much never forgot it and thought of it most days for the last 14 years until 2 years ago I officially discovered opiates.....then i knew what that gear back then was. and as previously mentionned once ur in it for a while you will never see the sun rise and set ever again without thinking of it (massive burden IMHO).....i have loads of money an can do whatever i want, but one thing i will never ever have a again and thats a day without that first heroin rush on my mind....e.g. I set off for a trip to SI\ingapore on hollies, all my mates around me are happy...me too, but Im different. I've already had H on my mind sitting there in the plane, that instantly takes the joy away and one realizes one can never ever be as happy and normal as other people and enjoy simple things, like that said holiday, to the full extent....I mean what kind off fucking life is that....its damnation

Than you so much friend. I was worried that people might think I was rambling. Apparently not as I have gotten more than one compliment on that post, and it has spawned a pretty cool idea.

This brings me to point #2... Thank you for that story you told at the bottom, I will need a story or two that shows just how addictive that shit can be sometimes. Craving a drug you haven't done since you were 15 enough to take the fun edge off a vacation... I think that covers it. Again thank you very very much, I kinda have a desire to be a writer, so it makes me really happy for anyone to tell me they like anything at all that I wrote. I didn't even proofread the that post so I'm even more happy that you guys like it!
 
Well, you were rather rude earlier, no need to break out the "F*ck you" stuff, and as a matter of fact, I do know exactly what I'm talking about. I've been there, I've stood right in your shoes right now. My circumstances were a little different, but opiates have basically ruined my life. They are fun. When you start, it really feels like you can control it. It took me about 3 years to develop a habit at all. Then it took another year before I started to have withdrawal symptoms. Slowly but surely I started doing opiates all the time. It's not like you are going to do a gram or two, and sell your house and everything you own right away. Opiate usage, and especially Heroin slowly but surely takes over you. You end up living for one thing and one thing only, to get more opiates. You know its stupid, but it doesn't matter. Once you are addicted, its there forever. It isn't like you can quit doing heroin and its just gone. You think about it all the time, you never ever feel right again. I think about dope every single solitary day. No matter how long you stay clean, you will not see the sun rise then set without craving some. It's not a craving like you wanna smoke pot.... Opiate cravings will rule you. Dope sickness is no joke either, going through w/d's from strong opiates is a rough, rough experience. Everyone here will tell you that w/d's have broken them. I'm not trying to float my own boat or anything, but I'm a tough, mentally strong person. I've spent as much time as anyone else here crying like a little girl because I was so dope sick.

I'm not trying to put you down, no one here is. You have found one of the most accepting communities online. I can tell by your comment about being a functioning addict through high school that you probably aren't all that old. Telling me "try not to say shit when you have no idea" tells me the same. There's no need for all that. You don't like our answer, I know. Honestly, I don't like the idea of not doing opiates myself, but I'm already an addict. I'd do anything to not deal with what I have to deal with on a daily basis. I hate opiates, and wish I had never tried the first pain pill. Today, the only way I ever feel normal is when I'm on opiates, or take a xanax. As a result of my extreme addiction, I have permanent GAD. It never goes away no matter how long I stay clean for. It has taken most of the things in my life I enjoy.

As for your original topic. The only way to avoid addiction is to not ever do it. You can casually use opiates for a while, you won't be addicted in a day. It took me years, it started out just enjoying a few pain pills here and there. Unfortunately, you can be very functional on opiates, and this is what gets everyone. You can do them all day long every day, and at first, you may even be more productive. I would always make way way more money when I bar tended on Oxycontin. Usually about twice as much. There are just so many ways to get pulled in slowly, but surely. They have this incredible way of making you lie to yourself and rationalize everything in the best possible manner. It's easy to rationalize getting a bag, or an oc, or whatever for your shift at work when it means you will make twice as much money isn't it? It just doesn't go that way forever. Eventually, you get dope sick. Then you need opiates to feel normal. At that point, they will own you forever. I never ever thought I'd stick myself with a needle. I have. I never thought I'd steal to support my habit, I have. I'm so ashamed of how I lived my life for so long. I still have a bit of a habit today. I'm not on the needle anymore, I don't ever steal anything anymore, but I still do pills sometimes. I fight it every day. Every day of my life I wake up craving pills. Every single thing I do in my life is connected with opiates, no matter what I do, I always wish I had some dope to do too. It's there everyday, I hate it, but it will probably never go away. I just do better. I only use pills about twice a week. On the surface, you might think I'm in control. Well, I'm not in control. If I could afford it, I'd do pills all day every day. The only thing I am limited by is money, like 99.9999% of addicts.

You are on a forum full of functional addicts. It amazes me you can tell us we don't know whats going on, or whats up. Why do you think we are on this forum? Most of us are functional opiate addicts specifically. Look up my posts and you can read all about what I've been through. Not all heroin addicts are homeless on the streets. Many of us have jobs, and live "normal" lives. We carry a burden though, a sickness. A sickness that breaks us down to tears, that hurts everyone around us. We ourselves hate it, but for lack of a better term its just too damn late for us. We have wised up, and know what to do to help limit our addiction. We still go to work on days that we feel like, and usually wish we were dying. It takes all our money, it's a disgustingly expensive habit, I've had to spend $50 per day to keep from being sick before. There is almost no emotion or color left in our life when we are out of dope. I know plenty of people who have a family, are raising kids, and you would never know it from the outside if you didn't know them, but they carry a terrible burden every day. I wish you understood how bad it is man. In fact, maybe you shouldn't be talking when you have no idea, because you don't. You might think it was easy to be a functional drug addict in high school, but you weren't addicted to anything with the keeping power Heroin has. You ARE NOT stronger than heroin. I'm not trying to put you down, but that's how it is. I know you are strong willed, and obviously you think you have it figured out. You just have no idea what you are walking into. It will destroy you man, it will take everything from you. Please listen to what we are saying. If ONE good thing can come out of the hell I live through every day, it will be that no one else has to go through it.

yea yae its a good post im sorry for getting so pissed but i do recall you posets something offencive that really made me mad thats why i responded that way. I am a little annoyed my response got removed but its ok. and for the record I woke up fine and im not craving buying more h so i think this is under controle. Also i never asked anything about IV nore do i have the intention to use IV so thanks for all this "feedback" maby some time ill see the beauty in it

fuck you. i just blew thta shit right about now - i can already vision getting up tomarrow being sober cuz im not a fuckin pussy and i dont let the addictions get to me and im not gunna cop again for 2 weeks i was a functioning addict all the way through high school just try not to say shit when you have no fucking idea

excuse my language swim just blew a lin of some good H

Ya i was fretty Fucked up when i wrote this
 
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