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I have been a lurker for about two years, never bothered to join because every post i read (and I mean EVERY) has a mod come in to say use the search function. Sometimes posting is more about having someone to talk to instead of just pure research am I correct?

Not the best first sentence to my introduction and I am sure over the years mods grow tired of seeing the exact same thing posted countless times so I understand where they are coming from, but I am saying this is my personal reason for never posting. Why post when it will get shut down? But I want to talk about a topic I don't see anyone talking about. On a side note I am a former dealer that has been out of the game for many years, I was mid level, not the guy you call for your fix. So I have a open mind on how the real world works.

So the topic I am bringing up deals with fentynol, a drug created in 1959 and also a drug that no one heard about until fairly recently. Sure some people knew about it but not like it is known today with it being front page news almost daily. I wonder if the weed legalization in certain places in the west has made big corporations, pharmaceutical companies and large retail chains looking to make more profit could be the very reason for this whole epidemic.

Why did I come to this conclusion? When it was first making the news I thought back to the prohibition era in the 1920's and how that all ended, one of the biggest reasons to end it was because drinkers were dying from an unregulated product. The argument then was to legalize, tax and regulate it to make it safer for the community. Fentynol is having this very same effect. Do a quick google search and you now see that mainstream news is posting articles about full legalization as a measure of harm reduction. BC has a prescription heroin program that is small of course but seems like a way to back up legalization talks in the future with a proven case study.

Big pharma is big money with it's tentacles in every aspect of government, I am talking real power to manipulate newspapers, law enforcement intelligence agency's the works. We know that over the past decade the rise of oxy and the money it made them, but now good luck getting prescribed for pain meds these days. Is it too far fetched to think that they might come up with a way to get drugs legalized to increase profits in a magnitude the likes they have never seen before? I think oxy wet their beak so to speak, so they looked at the past and devised a way to change public perception on the war on drugs. No other way would have worked. It would have been another 50 years before you read any article even remotely talking about legalization of hard drugs.

I have always been for legalization and I don't even use opiates, I just use common sense. But whenever the media start beating their drums on a subject you should always try to see the agenda being put forth. Mainstream media is owned by large corporations, they don't need to lie but they can focus on something to make it something that you talk about and think on. You see it all the time and then you come to the conclusion that something must be done now. I think within 2 years you will see a radical change on drug policy in the west. It's just sad that they went about it in this manner.
 
34 views so far and not one reply? I really would like to hear others opinions on this, I want to have an open discussion with people in the know.
 
Welcome aboard, you raise some valid points - don't stress on instant replies - staff here volunteer and sometimes it takes time to get a reply -

I take it you want to discuss the use of fentanyl and prohibition in general?


Feel free to head over to Basic Drug Discussion, or Other Drugs or even Drug culture I'm not sure which forum fits your query the best, but have a look at the other threads and see if there's a place for you to share your thoughts and you'll be replied to in no time :)
 
I appreciate the help, and what I want to discuss is if there is some motive behind the sudden flood of fentanyl on our streets. Remember how I said in my post that I used to be a mid level player in the drug game? I know the thought process of dealers, I just can't see this problem being created by dealers alone. Someone else had to have had a hand in this and like all things in life money is the motive. Big pharma is the only people I see that stand to profit from the legalization of hard drugs and huge profits at that.

It's a conspiracy theory I know but if you look to the past you can read the future.
 
China has been pumping out fentanyl and derivatives like crazy over the past couple years - it's cheaper for dealers to stick in one of these fent analogues, that are a fraction of the price of normal heroin / pharms etc and they couldn't care less whether or not their clientele live or die.

In fact - even when people find out about a batch that was so strong it killed someone, they'll still be like 'I need to get me some of that' - that's just the mentality of some users. Apparently some dealers will be honest and tell people their heroin is cut with fentanyl but I imagine they're few and far between.

There's a good documentary on the rise of fentanyl, check it out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28rJqj-7pEY

Again - people more knowledgeable than I can help you in the forums I mentioned above. Good luck!
 
China has always had the ability to pump out drugs like fentynol since the 80's why now sell this drug so soon after oxy gets tamper proof and almost never prescribed?
Big pharma has to be involved, US drug industry is worth hundreds of billions if not trillions of dollars. They are right beside the military industrial complex and banking in size.

Just think it's fishy but yes Ill discuss this in another forum like you suggested. That vice piece is eye opening I have seen it before. I am from alberta.
 
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