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Long-term RC storage

Argon is absolutely inert and won't cause any reaction (read: decomposition). It's heavier than air and the first choice for such an application. It shouldn't be too difficult to obtain small pressurized bottles of argon.

Carbon dioxide can react with traces of water to form carbonic acid. This is then absorbed by basic compounds, which can lead to decomposition but doesn't have to necessarily.

Nitrogen is almost as good as argon but is lighter than air and will escape much easier. Nitrogen oxide is not recommended due to possible reactivity.


Peace! - Murphy
 
I am storing 4-AcO-MiPT freebase and AMT freebase along along with some hydrochloride 5-MeO-DMT, 5-MeO-MiPT, 4-HO-DiPT and fumarate 4-AcO-DMT, 4-AcO-DET and 4-HO-MiPT.

If this whole argon this is necessary I will look into it more.

But I was thinking either using small vials and filling each vial to the brim and closing as soon as possible.

The vials will be placed in mason jars, with a pack of silica gel on one side and a pack of anti-oxidant on the other side and the mason jars will be filled with rice to remove as much air and absorb any moisture.

They will all be placed in a small lockbox and placed in the freezer.

Will this allow my compounds to last for years?

Since I will be using small vials all the unused vials will not be filled and they will be capped airtight.

I was also thinking of placing all of my powder in small bags and placing them in a vial. Is it better to place the powder in the vial or would it be better to place the powders in a small bag, rolled to remove as much air as possible, and then placed in the vial?

I'm also assuming since they will be frozen that clear vials will be fine. I was thinking of using colbalt blue or amber vials, but individual vials will not be exposed to sunlight so clear vials may be beneficial to see if degradation has occured. Of course when I take the powder out of the vial I will see if any degradation has occured, so maybe amber and cobalt blue vials would be better?

So should the powder be placed in the vials, or should they be placed in a baggie, folded to remove as much air as possible and then put in the vials?

Rather than using clar vials should I use amber and cobalt blue vials since I will be able to detect any degradtion when I cap the powder anyways?

And will this method allow my compounds to last for years?
 
But I was thinking either using small vials and filling each vial to the brim and closing as soon as possible.

The vials will be placed in mason jars, with a pack of silica gel on one side and a pack of anti-oxidant on the other side and the mason jars will be filled with rice to remove as much air and absorb any moisture.

They will all be placed in a small lockbox and placed in the freezer.

Will this allow my compounds to last for years?
Most probably: Yes.

- Murphy
 
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So when storing tryptamines in vials in the freezer for long term storage is it better to

A: Place the powder directly into the vial

or,

B: Keep the powder in a baggie, remove as much air from the bag as possible by folding, "rolling" it and closing it, and then placing the rolled up baggie into the vial?

I'm thinking A is probably the obvious answer, but I asked this question awhile ago and never received a response so I figured I'd bump it.
 
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