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Long-term Methadone Maintenance & Orgasm

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hairohwin

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Hi guys,
Not sure if this post would be more appropriate in the Sex/Relationships section, but since it is methadone, and therefore recovery, specific, I settled here.

I am a 23 year old female and have been on methadone maintenance for almost 3 years. Prior to beginning methadone treatment, I experimented with a variety of painkillers in my early teens before falling in love with heroin and starting a long affair with dope and the needle. Although I have been on methadone maintenance for almost 3 years, it is just recently that my use has been seriously declining as I found the right dose for me. As my heroin use fell, my libido, which had laid dormant through much of the sex I had been having through my heavy use, came back with a vengeance.
I had always been extremely sexual, eager to play and explore with both sexes, and now that my libido matches my mindset again, I feel almost out of control; it seems like everything turns me on these days, and that I am always horny. There's only one problem.... Reaching orgasm now seems ridiculously difficult and tedious, and while I can achieve orgasm, it is not without my poor clitoris taking quite a bit of abuse first. Before methadone and heavy opiate use, I could make myself come in less than 45 seconds with the right touch, and while toys ease the process, it sometimes seems impossible to get myself off, let alone have whoever I happen to be playing with manage to do so.
I do want to add that once I DO come, the orgasms come fast, easy, and hard, but not until that initial and impossibly elusive first one.
This is quite a bit of info and possibly too much, but I was curious if any other girls (and the boys, too!) have experienced the same problem while on methadone maintenance. I'm not much interested in how being extremely high on dope or painkillers affects orgasm, because most of us already know. The problem with methadone, however, is the extremely long half-life and threat of withdrawal that prevents most from getting a "break", so to speak.
My current dose is a split 180 (90mg/twice a day, afternoon and late night).
Any thoughts, comments, tips, advice, and techniques are much appreciated!
:3
 
Well of course! I had a hard time doing anything om opioids and methadone takes the cake. I used very big amounts, injecting from 400-750 mg A DAY! Used it for 16 years and never want to see it anymore. The WD was surprisingly easy. But thats Another story. So I didn't have any orgasms or sexual thoughts or whatever for 5 years. But even in smaller doses Methadon stinks when it comes to emotional and sexual things...When I stopped...well...hehe...I will never ever go back using that crap opioids...
 
The withdrawal from 400-750mg/day was EASY!? Mmm, I'd love to have your willpower... I can handle all the physical withdrawal stuff - the shakes, sweating, diarrhea, muscle spasms, tearing and yawning, etc. etc., but what gets me every single time is the withdrawal related anxiety that I experience. My best friend and using buddy does not experience this the same way that I do; while she feels anxious, it doesn't become unbearable. Every time I tried to wean myself off of heroin, it was always my racing heart and anxiety that got me to use again. With methadone, the withdrawal is much worse. The physical symptoms are much more bearable, but there seems to be no light at the end of the tunnel when withdrawing from methadone, it just goes on, and on, and on... At least with heroin, it was brutal but short.
No orgasms for 5 years... I cannot even imagine! That sounds like a nightmare, and I'm sorry you had to go through that, but glad to hear you beat it!
<3
 
Well... at the clinic, I know some people who get up to 300+ mg/day, so I suppose with an insane tolerance and appetite 400-500mg wouldn't be that much of a stretch, but I have to admit that 700+ mg seems a little superhuman to me, too!
 
I'm only on 60 mgs of methadone a day n I can orgasm very easily from sex but not oral sex. Also when were having sweaty hard intense sessions the sweating freaks my body out n I feel as tho I'm going into withdrawal... It's taking a very long time for my body to adjust after heroin n I'm not sure the methadone is helping.
 
I can't really add anything to the discussion and the OP.

I'm still marveling at the monstruous methadone dosages. fuck. highest I ever took was 200mg and that got me slightly high. I'd hate to imagine anything higher. idk though, I've read reports of some people saying 200mg detox was just as bad as 30mg due to the half life of done being so high, so its like human body only recognizes misery's to an extent. I can only "feel like I'm dying" to an extent before it just fucking sucks regardless.
 
oh, thank you never sick! i've been around for a while, but haven't posted, so thank you~
and thank you for moving this.. wasn't sure it belonged :3
alikat.. i'm curious.. when you say oral sex, does that include clitoral stimulation in general? i ask because that's where my trouble is, for some reason i don't have any issues with g-spot orgasm in the right position during sex.
 
Really doesn't seem surprising at all unfortunately. It's normal for your libido to be coming back now that you're not really a user anymore (or less than before anyway), but methadone being an opioid, it still makes orgasms hard to achieve like any other opioid/opiate, as I'm sure you've got experience with (especially that much methadone...holy shit!).
Funnily enough I've got kind of a similar issue as you in that I can achieve g-spot orgasms but never clit ones when on opies (I'm not talking about maintenance, mind). I've got no idea what the answer behind that is but you're not alone anyway :?
Anyway, I really think the best thing to do atm is to simply continue lowering your methadone doses progressively and the rest will follow through eventually. Good luck, and congrats on getting clean :)
 
No. It's true. I sold a lot of pills...regret it! I had lots of Money, I bought or traded xtra methadone. I used a concentrate, but it was still only 5mg/ml så I had to shoot GHASTLY amounts, the 750mg was the record, but 100 ml a day, 500 mg was quite usual. I had methadone for 16 years, but only 120 mg myself, it was only the last 3-4 years that I skyrocketed and it almost killed me! And 1800 mg Lyrica every day...and Halcion, Flunitrazepam, and gaaaa! Yes it was horrible. And I still suffer from the Health issues that almost killed me then...It was not EASY, it was SURPRISINGLY easy! - I lived in the shower for Three weeks, from mine amounts down to 100, was Childs play, it was the last 30 mg that was difficult. But I used only green leaves, egg yolks apples and water. (I had a lot to take of, weighing 112 kg, I Went down to 58 kg when at the bottom. But I made it and stay away from sugar and all crap as all this fuels addictions. I NEVER go into a pharmacy, only Health food stores.
 
Wait, Pap, you lost me about 3/4 thru your post. You only used green leaves, egg yolks, apples and water? And living in the shower? Are you talking about withdrawing and losing weight after quitting opiates? You switched gears and I'm coming off an all nighter (finals week! eep!) so I'm a little slow :$
 
Really doesn't seem surprising at all unfortunately. It's normal for your libido to be coming back now that you're not really a user anymore (or less than before anyway), but methadone being an opioid, it still makes orgasms hard to achieve like any other opioid/opiate, as I'm sure you've got experience with (especially that much methadone...holy shit!).
Funnily enough I've got kind of a similar issue as you in that I can achieve g-spot orgasms but never clit ones when on opies (I'm not talking about maintenance, mind). I've got no idea what the answer behind that is but you're not alone anyway :?
Anyway, I really think the best thing to do atm is to simply continue lowering your methadone doses progressively and the rest will follow through eventually. Good luck, and congrats on getting clean :)

Oh, interesting... I thought the g-spot thing was maybe just a quirk that slipped thru the cracks, and that I got lucky somehow. Maybe its from always being turned on and in overdrive, but you'd think that would totally work to your clit's advantage, too. My poor clit hates me so much right now. Poor thing is SO abused, because I'm determined to not get discouraged! Oh well, thank god for vibrators, right? d:
And thank you.. I'm not.. totally clean yet, I still love to get high, and its easy to do with a split dose (and 90mg twice/day really isn't THAT high, its just barely enough to hold me until I have to run back to the clinic again the next morning). I'm personally terrified to wean off, not only because I still have cravings and love to get high and am not totally out of the lifestyle yet, but I'm kind of scared of losing this identity I feel like I've had for so long... and of course not being able to handle the withdrawal-related anxiety.
Anyways~ thanks for responding! I'm kind of intrigued about the g-spot thing, and am going to dig for a bit of information on it for a bit! :3
 
I can't really add anything to the discussion and the OP.

, I've read reports of some people saying 200mg detox was just as bad as 30mg due to the half life of done being so high, so its like human body only recognizes misery's to an extent. I can only "feel like I'm dying" to an extent before it just fucking sucks regardless.
couldn't agree more with this seron
 
Well of course! I had a hard time doing anything om opioids and methadone takes the cake. I used very big amounts, injecting from 400-750 mg A DAY! Used it for 16 years and never want to see it anymore. The WD was surprisingly easy. But thats Another story. So I didn't have any orgasms or sexual thoughts or whatever for 5 years. But even in smaller doses Methadon stinks when it comes to emotional and sexual things...When I stopped...well...hehe...I will never ever go back using that crap opioids...

Your sayin that you were on a Methadone script of 750mgs a day & the withdraw was easy ?

Bollox i'm not having that . I've struggled with Methadone addiction for 18 years & never been on over 100ml a day.
What size & make of Ampoules were you using ?

I just saw your post .
Still all a bit odd . Why fuk about with a shit drug like methadone if like you said you had Money .
Each to their own :)
 
Oh, interesting... I thought the g-spot thing was maybe just a quirk that slipped thru the cracks, and that I got lucky somehow. Maybe its from always being turned on and in overdrive, but you'd think that would totally work to your clit's advantage, too. My poor clit hates me so much right now. Poor thing is SO abused, because I'm determined to not get discouraged! Oh well, thank god for vibrators, right? d:
And thank you.. I'm not.. totally clean yet, I still love to get high, and its easy to do with a split dose (and 90mg twice/day really isn't THAT high, its just barely enough to hold me until I have to run back to the clinic again the next morning). I'm personally terrified to wean off, not only because I still have cravings and love to get high and am not totally out of the lifestyle yet, but I'm kind of scared of losing this identity I feel like I've had for so long... and of course not being able to handle the withdrawal-related anxiety.
Anyways~ thanks for responding! I'm kind of intrigued about the g-spot thing, and am going to dig for a bit of information on it for a bit! :3

Yeah, tell me if you find some info on that, I'm a bit intrigued now as well. Although if there were any answers I think this specific forum would probably be the best place to look haha.
I can understand what you mean about not wanting to lose your identity by getting clean, but I guess the thing to remember is that opiates aren't you, and it's once you're clean that you'll be yourself again. Was speaking to a friend about this last night actually - heroin just sucks the life out of you, or that's how we see it anyway. It's normal for you to identify yourself with those feelings and lifestyle after so long but maybe see it as regaining your identity rather than letting go of it? :)
 
Yeah, tell me if you find some info on that, I'm a bit intrigued now as well. Although if there were any answers I think this specific forum would probably be the best place to look haha.
I can understand what you mean about not wanting to lose your identity by getting clean, but I guess the thing to remember is that opiates aren't you, and it's once you're clean that you'll be yourself again. Was speaking to a friend about this last night actually - heroin just sucks the life out of you, or that's how we see it anyway. It's normal for you to identify yourself with those feelings and lifestyle after so long but maybe see it as regaining your identity rather than letting go of it? :)

I did find this post, from another forum - a girl who, when on opiates (methadone specifically) talks about urine retention, and mentions that the effort to "push" when urinating is the same muscle used when working up to a g-spot orgasm and squirting; and that the number of female ejaculations and g-spot orgasms was higher when using versus when sober. Now that I think about it, prior to methadone, g-spot orgasm was rare for me, BUT I'm also much more sexually "enlightened" now and I know my body much better than I did in my early to late teens; squirting is still rare for me, takes a big dick and a big g-spot orgasm for me to squirt, but it does happen, and I've definitely squirted more while on Methadone Maintenance than I had prior to treatment. Hmm.

I don't know that I've noticed urinary retention or it being a bit harder to pee, but maybe our g-spot orgasms have something to do with that, and perhaps the extra (and sometimes maybe unnoticeable?) effort used when urinating strengthened the muscle?
Here's the link to the post I found: http://forum.opiophile.org/archive/index.php/t-29237.html
 
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