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Long term effects of E use

manic_panic said:
I've eaten probably 200 pills within the past give or take...3 years?

Concentration problems, depression, occasional anxiety. Then again I've devoured a shit-ton of other drugs as well, including combo's with E and LSD, I could go on about it but I'm not going to. I think what fucks your head up most about E is the pills that have meth in them. That I can guarantee is true.

I concur. taking 2-3 methbombs made adderall completely ineffective for me... INDEFINITELY. stay away from them
 
out of all the drugs x has prolly been the one ive taken the most you dont wanna know how many, not that i could even begin to recall how many say over 5 years 2 of those years i went stupid on them, i cant take them now because they have no "good" effects anymore shaw i still love them but they dont do anything for me but nothing does anymore it has taken my joy away from everything. I used to be quite the happy person ill still have a joke every now and then but im far from happy im hoping that it will come back not even so i can take more pills for them to work wich they wont but just to be happy for my self atleast. Ocd is pretty bad but manageable im always checking things are locked,shut,open turned off or on if things are in there place's and just shit like that over and over again ill check the same things 5 times in 5 minite's if i walk past it its a good reason to check it and if i drive away from work or home its not uncommon for me to go back and make shaw its locked. im shaw i can beat it tho, evently. just dont over do it, dont take a bag of pills with ya becuase you will have them all and watch what money you have on you becuase you will buy more pills :) out of all this im just having some memories whilst im writing this and fuck they are some good ones and i cant replace them -=good times=-
 
LuckyShamrock said:
ok so I'm 24 years old and I have been using mdma almost constantly since I turned 18. I didn't notice any negative affects until probably within the last year. My memory is terrible, I can watch a movie one day and then watch it again a few days later and its like the first time. Can't remember names of songs, people, movies ect that I've known for years. I forget almost everything. I have used many drugs in my life: pot, mdma, lsd, coke, crack, heroin, ghb (once), ketamine ect. I stopped smoking pot on a regular basis in 2003 due to my incarceration, so I know its not the pot.

I know it has to be due to the X

I also have epilepsy (diagnosed before drug use) which has gotten progressively worse. Don't know if I'm just so used to my meds that I go into withdrawl when I miss a dose and that causes a seizure or if the drugs have made me extra sensitive to them. Probably both.

I know I'm pretty dumb for continuing my drug use, but its just something about rolling that I love so much. I will continue to do it.

I am open to your criticism.

I have been getting on it regulary for around the same amount of time and I know exactly what you're talking about. all of a sudden your memory just goes to shit
 
I rolled from '99 to '03 every weekend, sometimes twice a weekend. I just began rolling again in september of last year after a long drought. In the old days from '99 to '03 I dropped on average 5 to 10 pills a weekend. and never really noticed any long term effects at all except the etarded next day but I always thought that was pretty fun anyway..lol.

Now days, for the past year or so I roll once a month, sometimes twice because I have family now and its hard to find time. But I still take anywhere from 4 to 5 each night I roll because I love to get peeled. The only long term effects Ive noticed so far is irritability and I also find myself a very impulsive individual since I tried E. I mean im probably not going to be the smartest apple on the tree the next day after I roll but I have no problems concentrating or anything.

E actually changed my life and settled me down as a person. If it wasnt for E I would probably be a violent person or some other stupid person. I have also noticed that since I have been doing E..everything else seems uncivilized and E world is the place to be.LOL
 
Kkool said:
This is the stupidest bit of text I have seen all summer. Congrats.

If I were a mod, I'd permanently ban you from this site for showing such disrespect to a research scientist and valued member of the harm reduction community.

theDEA.org has contributed more to MDMA harm reduction than many of us combined will do in a lifetime.

You owe the guy a public apology for your disrespect and arrogance.
 
purplefirefly said:
Mods don't have "bansticks"

Also, if he/she were banned then we could not show him/her the error of his/her ways and make him a more informed and educated user. ;)

Cooler heads prevail. Thanks for your comments - sometimes I get a bit passionate.
 
I started rolling about 2 years ago, just hear and there with my dudes. I really had no side effects until now. For about 8 months now I ate probably on average 3 pills a week. Just recently I think i might of had an emotional break down. I broke down crying to my girlfriend, she knew i took ex a lot but she didnt know how much I have really done it. I am feeling depressed and I am starting to get social anxiety, and Depersonaliztion= especially after i smoke which is why i quit weed cuz it makes me freak out. I just feel so cold and empty now. And feel like a fuckin retard. My short term memory is shot, i feel so spacey and even my long term memory is tweaked. My last pill was on Friday, and I am taking a long break. I love rolling but these side effects are just not worth it to me. I can concentrate and fuckin hate it. WHen i get paid on Friday i am going to GNC and buying a bottle of 5-htp. anyone feel the same? just so empty and cold, sometimes i feel like i cant even laugh or smile. I am also going to start working out which might help. Get at me and let me know what yall think.
 
^^ Yes the w/d can be tough, as your serotonin levels drop quite low. 5-HTP and/or L-tryptophan can be very helpful. THC can increase depression, that fact has been established.
 
mulberryman said:
^^ Yes the w/d can be tough, as your serotonin levels drop quite low. 5-HTP and/or L-tryptophan can be very helpful. THC can increase depression, that fact has been established.

5-HTP more so than L-Tryptophan as I've read Tryptophan Hydroxylase(converts Tryp to 5-HTP) is reduced from X use.
 
I just want to point out that it's still unknown as to whether or not 5-htp actually does anything to the supply of serotonin in your brain.

I personally do take 5-htp and think I have felt positive effects, but whether or not I actually did or was only feeling a placebo effect is another story. I'm still going to keep on taking it though. :)
 
purplefirefly said:
I just want to point out that it's still unknown as to whether or not 5-htp actually does anything to the supply of serotonin in your brain.

I personally do take 5-htp and think I have felt positive effects, but whether or not I actually did or was only feeling a placebo effect is another story. I'm still going to keep on taking it though. :)

Are you sure that it is entirely unknown whether or not oral 5-HTP converts to Serotonin, and therefore increases your total Serotonin? I'd figure that there must have been at least one paper regarding this very important topic.
 
People in here talked about short-term memory loss. Can you explain more from a personal point of view? For example, what are you forgetting? Also, your long-term memory has remained at the same level without any change? (birthdays of relatives, names of movie actors etc)

I notice that sometimes I give up on intellectual tasks too easily. I do not follow a thought to the end of it's logical conclusion, if it gets too complicated. I used to be quite a smark cookie....and I can feel myself lagging just a bit now. :(
 
You know, I've never used MDMA over a long period of time, and often I can have trouble remembering things like the names of movie actors or friend's birthdays, and I'd like to think I might have been considered a 'smart cookie' in my day too.
 
People in here talked about short-term memory loss. Can you explain more from a personal point of view? For example, what are you forgetting?

I just can't seem to find the right words any more, and i'll often substitute kind of related words into sentences because I can't think of the right one anymore. For example, I was trying to point out something in the distance and the only way I could express it was saying 'see there...in the future...'
I do it a lot.

I used pills every weekend for 3 years without any ill effects at all until the last couple of months I used; my anxiety got progressively worse until I was a fucked up, suicidal mess. Took me 5 months to lift myself out of that. I know the pills/drugs weren't the only reason, but I know they made things worse.

I took drugs again for the first time last weekend after over a year off, seems my days of no come down are over! :( I just wish I hadn't started so young and taken them every single weekend...
 
purplefirefly said:
I'm not convinced that mdma use or drug use can cause you to have a psychological disorder, but I do believe that drug use can bring out those underlying tendencies.

Also, how can you be positive that it was the mdma when you were doing other drugs?


I agree.... the anxiety/ocd were definitely underlying issues that i had just kind of masked with drugs until I quit.... then they came out with a vengeance. i feel like it wasn't completely ecstasy that caused this but all drugs.
 
tango said:
I just can't seem to find the right words any more, and i'll often substitute kind of related words into sentences because I can't think of the right one anymore. For example, I was trying to point out something in the distance and the only way I could express it was saying 'see there...in the future...'
I do it a lot.

Yea losing words is not a good thing at all, especially for me. I am a writer and researcher and need to play around with words a lot. Sometimes when I can't get the right word, I rely a lot on the inbuilt thesaurus. I am unsure whether my ability to verballyconvey myself effectively has decreased in any way. Probably not though. I intend to be a lecturer. :\
 
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