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Long term effects of amphetamines

s2k1099

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I'm going to put all this is a nut shell, otherwise I'll never stop writing.

I've been taking adderall now for about a year now. July of 2010 to be exact.

The bad -

I've been married and then divorced 7 days later, quit school and pretty much disconnected myself with all of my friends. Not to mention I'm kind of homeless. I just manage by couch surfing and working all the time. Tried Methamphetamine for the first time (not a fan)

Up for interpretation - I sleep every other night and I've lost 100lbs since 07/10.

The good -

I work everyday and just got promoted (fast food, nothing big) I manage to meet my DUI probation requirements, my relationships with my parents are much better and i personally feel i have a greater outlook on things than i did before.

I'm wondering if anyones done any research on the long term effects of this drug?

I've heard people say once you quit, the entire time off of it seems like a hazy dream. - I'm not too worried about that part of the long term effects, I'm more interested in the chemical effects pertaining to the brain after you have quit taking it (Amphetamines)

Any thoughts or ideas on this would be appreciated
 
i used to take speed daily and when you come off it you get very depressed, too tired to get out of bed and demotivated in the extreme
 
How did you lose that much weight? I mean 50 lbs is really quite a substantial amount, not just a few pounds here and there which is the norm for a weight loss regime.

What do you weigh now and what did you weigh to begin?

I finished off 10g of 4-fluoroamp that lasted me 21 days using ~500mg/day on average.

In relation to your question, indeed it could be seen as a problem if you are unable to curb/lower your intake. The insomnia was not so bad for me if I only dosed in the morning, and the loss in appetite and correspondingly less intake of calories contained within the junk I usually eat could be seen as beneficial. I would tend to get exercise upon acute dosing but with chronic dosing this would be less noticeable.

The above are all positive and dont indicate any need to reduce dose.

However, negative symptoms are as follows. Firstly, there is the issue of tolerance. Thus, escalating doses can become somewhat of an issue. Feeling physically exhausted was starting to become an issue. However the real issues were not being able to sit down and read because I was unable to keep my mind focused on the text that was infront of me. My mind would keep wandering to other issues and was unable to keep thorough concentration for even moderate periods of time. Coupled to this, my escalating doses would mean towards the end of my binge periods, I would suffer headaches from the raised blood pressure.

The amphetamine headaches were not as bad as what I endured on chronic sibutramine dosing. Nevertheless, the headaches after 3 weeks of daily dosing was quite severe and lasted for 2 days.
 
I have been using Vyvanse for about 6 months but I have noticed that if I want the original amphetamine high/feeling it requires more pills, who knew? But anyway about once or twice a week when I have a low workload I take a day off and I manage to find some Ambien and thus sleep. This way with a wash-out period and a lot of sleep, your body and your psyche feel like new.

I've discovered through experience and some research, that the amphetamine-based tachyphylaxis (neurotransmitter depletion) can truly nullify the effects of an amphetamine. Sleep is one of the most effective ways and most natural ways to reverse this and even though you may sleep on an amphetamine, with the residual amount in the blood, it may be enough to at least partially inhibit REM sleep.

In addition to the washout/sleep catch-up period, I would recommend an L-Tyrosine supplement. You will probably have to go to a specialty health store since Walmart, Kroger etc. don't carry it. L-Tyrosine in the precursor to dopamine and norepinephrine, the two neurotransmitters primarily hit by amphetamine. Soooo if you take the precursor, it will not be nailed in vivo and will readily cross the BBB to replenish used NT supplies.

Sorry for the length but this is what has worked for me. But if you can maximize the amphetamine's effect there is no reason you can't fly through the ranks at any place of employment and get the most out of life. Hope that helps!
 
Smyth said:
How did you lose that much weight? I mean 50 lbs is really quite a substantial amount, not just a few pounds here and there which is the norm for a weight loss regime.

What do you weigh now and what did you weigh to begin?

I finished off 10g of 4-fluoroamp that lasted me 21 days using ~500mg/day on average.

In relation to your question, indeed it could be seen as a problem if you are unable to curb/lower your intake. The insomnia was not so bad for me if I only dosed in the morning, and the loss in appetite and correspondingly less intake of calories contained within the junk I usually eat could be seen as beneficial. I would tend to get exercise upon acute dosing but with chronic dosing this would be less noticeable.

The above are all positive and dont indicate any need to reduce dose.

However, negative symptoms are as follows. Firstly, there is the issue of tolerance. Thus, escalating doses can become somewhat of an issue. Feeling physically exhausted was starting to become an issue. However the real issues were not being able to sit down and read because I was unable to keep my mind focused on the text that was infront of me. My mind would keep wandering to other issues and was unable to keep thorough concentration for even moderate periods of time. Coupled to this, my escalating doses would mean towards the end of my binge periods, I would suffer headaches from the raised blood pressure.

The amphetamine headaches were not as bad as what I endured on chronic sibutramine dosing. Nevertheless, the headaches after 3 weeks of daily dosing was quite severe and lasted for 2 days.
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The appetite suppression only lasted maybe 3 months honestly, but the initial weight loss gave me ridiculous motivation to continue loosing weight.

I would fast for 3 days until my body switched to ketone energy at which point i wouldn't eat for about a week. Once i was on a ketone form of energy intake i would lose about 2-3 pounds a day.

This fasting was also accompanied by countless days not sleeping thus my body required more energy. I do not advocate this method to anyone. It is effective but dangerous.

I was 254.7 pounds when i started taking adderall. Today I weighed in at 166.4. I've been maintaining a weight between 165 and 175 for about 2 months now.

I love me some speed.
 
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