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Live fast and die young - orrrr?

just do whatever you want when you want, cuz you'll learn quickly that way

That may be God's plan, for sure. But then again it, maybe its the plan of another dude
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Plur, print this out or bookmark it and either read it or put it somewhere for a rainy day. Some day you'll be glad you did.

http://lib.ru/LEWISCL/mere_engl.txt
 
Yeah, everybody dies. That's the easy part. What's hard is learning how to live.

The truth is, from where you are now, life is not short. You have a long, long road ahead of you.

Things may seem all fucked up now, but they don't have to be that way forever. You can have a great, happy future. But you gotta try to live a life where that's possible. You gotta try.

I like this post.
I find it wise and insightful.
Learning to live through only drugs seems sad to me.
Using drugs to highlight other enjoyable aspects of your life seems like a more balanced way of doing things.
If I were you, I would begin (continue) studying an instrument, or a language, or something that I enjoyed.
I would focus intently on that, working for at least 4-5 hours a day on it.
Wait a year or two, and watch as doors begin to open.
 
Or maybe we have free will and there is no plan at all.

According to the laws of logic within our frame of reference, if a certain future event is known ahead of time it is unchangeable. And since it is unchangeable, whoever is responsible for making that event happen does not have the freedom to choose whether or not to make that event happen. Thus predetermination, or in other words predestination, eliminates the possibility of free will. This is assuming that these logical conditions exist exclusively within our frame of reference. That assumption is broken when we bring God into the picture. So the laws of logic are not broken by the coexistence of predestination and free will from God's frame of reference. The problem is in the assumptions, not the laws. God's frame of reference is very different from ours: He exists beyond time; we exist within the time dimension, moving invariably along it.

2 Tim 1:9 & 1 Cor 2:7
 
holy moley stop rolling that shit is gonna ruin your life. thats whats making you think like this. i would really recommend not doing that with chemicals like mdma and all the other shit in pills these days

also youre way to young to decide that kind of shit right now. youre gonna ruin your body and brain before they fully develop. im only 3 years older but i wish i could go back 3 years and change that i had the same attitude. living that way gets real old surprisingly quick.

lots of people feel like that in their teens. the feeling will go away if you have patience. i mean yeah you gotta have fun but keep it to weekends and stay socially and physically healthy.
 
According to the laws of logic within our frame of reference, if a certain future event is known ahead of time it is unchangeable. And since it is unchangeable, whoever is responsible for making that event happen does not have the freedom to choose whether or not to make that event happen. Thus predetermination, or in other words predestination, eliminates the possibility of free will. This is assuming that these logical conditions exist exclusively within our frame of reference. That assumption is broken when we bring God into the picture. So the laws of logic are not broken by the coexistence of predestination and free will from God's frame of reference. The problem is in the assumptions, not the laws. God's frame of reference is very different from ours: He exists beyond time; we exist within the time dimension, moving invariably along it.

2 Tim 1:9 & 1 Cor 2:7

No future event is known with complete certainty. Every prediction or expectation we make about the future involves the Problem Of Induction. So the theory of predetermination quickly falls apart. And there is no logic behind the idea of God... don't cite references to the bible as a way of making your own personal beliefs seem credible to the debate.
 
since you're using this alongside an argument from scripture, i assume by logic you don't mean anything like the academic or normal definition of "logic"

do you place unbiased emphasis on all religious texts..
 
And there is no logic behind the idea of God...

if you are willing to challenge your assumptions i will prove you wrong.

can you control your emotions?

I like this post.
I find it wise and insightful.
Learning to live through only drugs seems sad to me.
Using drugs to highlight other enjoyable aspects of your life seems like a more balanced way of doing things.

agreed!

If I were you, I would begin (continue) studying an instrument, or a language, or something that I enjoyed.
I would focus intently on that, working for at least 4-5 hours a day on it.

here's my idea:

what i love to do:

draw
sing
dance
work out
write
meditate
listen to music
play super smash bros melee

i do not know a foreign language or how to play instruments.

i plan on learning how to meditate, play instruments, learn a foreign language, work out, dance, sing and draw all at the same time.

why not?

they all play off eahc other: live in the moment.

so i'll get better at all of them ridiculously quickly!
 
what do you want to know? the more specific the better

edit: mods, if you want me to take it to PM, just ask
 
Most people form an idea of god-ness, or the absence thereof, but to my knowledge, nobody has ever proven anything along those lines. The arguements I've heard in favor of the existence of a god generally boil down to faith rather than logic. I'm interested in seeing a logic-based case presented in favor of godness.
 
all those things that seem to be "tests of your faith"...

they're actually empirical evidence contradictory to your faith.

nbd js.
 
in the absence of concrete evidence otherwise, isn't it logical to err on the safe side and not risk pissing off that which can damn you for eternity?

:p
 
in the absence of concrete evidence otherwise, isn't it logical to err on the safe side and not risk pissing off that which can damn you for eternity?

:p
okay, now i have to pick, which one out of several thousand gods the human race has created, i should devote my life to *just in case*. sounds like a bad idea, when imo there is evidence that said gods are manufactured in the first place.
 
why don't you just ask?

seriously. that's all you have to do. ask and really want to know.

what makes a good student? effort!
 
okay, now i have to pick, which one out of several thousand gods the human race has created, i should devote my life to *just in case*. sounds like a bad idea, when imo there is evidence that said gods are manufactured in the first place.

logically, the one with the cruelest punishment, of course!

well according to southpark, the mormons are the right ones.
 
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