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listing of common/uncommon opiates (needs checking)

I thought that Tramadol was an Opiate because on the bag that I get my Ultram with it says, do not take if you are allergic to Hydrocodone, Oxycodone, etc blah blah blah... If I take 300+mg I get a little high goin on and it's pleasent IMO.
 
Tramadol is an opiod Call it what you want but it falls into the class on terms of being completely sythenzied. Does little to curb any major cravings you might have. I've also heard of Tramadol containing SSRI properties so pick whichever class you feel best with and stick it in.

DXM....DXM will potentiate any opiate (midly but it will) and I believe that the structures look exactly alike but they are a mirror image (correct me if I'm wrong on that on). Also read that it will not bind to any "real" opiate receptors because since it's a mirrored image it won't fit. I don't think I'll ever decide where this one belongs but if it was my list it wouldn't go in it.

Loperamide can fall into your opiate list (ya know .. Immodium AD)

http://www.marvistavet.com/html/body_loperamide.html said:
"Despite its inability to produce recreational euphoria, loperamide is actually a member of the opiate class of drugs. Opiates have numerous effects that have made them beneficial (as well targets of abuse) for centuries; one such beneficial effect is an increase in general muscle tone of the small intestine. As described above, increasing tonus means more absorption of water and nutrients and less diarrhea.
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Hope any of that helped you
 
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I thought that Tramadol was an Opiate because on the bag that I get my Ultram with it says, do not take if you are allergic to Hydrocodone, Oxycodone, etc blah blah blah... If I take 300+mg I get a little high goin on and it's pleasent IMO.
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Yeah as I said it is indeed an opioid .. which is different then opiate. Just means it was completely synthesized, and that's why some say it's not a true opiate...it's an opioid with SSRI properties in it. Take too much there PartyKid you might be opening the door for seizures, be careful.
 
Alright, cemistry and pharmacology aside, can we at least agree on the etymology? Allow me to suggest:

Opiate: Is anything that is either directly derrived or synthesized from something that is directly derrived from Opium. So this means that Papaverine IS an opiate, even though it does not bind to opioid receptors (or maybe it does? correct me if I'm wrong).

Opioid: (and as someone suggested in another thread, most people seem to forget one of the I's in the word Opioid) - An Opioid is anything that will bind to opioid receptors. So this would mean that all Opiates are Opioids, but not all opioids are opiates.

Fair? :)
 
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Etoniterzine - 1500 x morphine ana totally wierd from a chemical standpoint. only 3 cases of clandestine manufacture ever recorded. 1998 Russia, 2001 Germany & 2003 (personal use only!) In 2003.
 
I'll add:
Diphenoxylate (Schedule V anti-diarrheal) - Relatively inactive due to its low soluability in the digestive system, large doses "can cause codeine like effect"

Cyprodime = N-Cyclopropylmethyl-4,14-dimethoxymorphinan-6-one - Worlds most potent antagonist

Cyprenorphine - Buprenorphine with an N-cyclopropylmethyl group, its scheduled in several countries...

Pholcodine http://opioids.com/pholcodine/ - Sold in cough syrups in some countries

And the peptides:
Endomorphin 1,2,3 - Endogeneous morphine!
Beta-Endorphin
Enkephalins - These are the natural pain killing opiods which exist in the brain, they are associated with the Delta opiod receptor (thus low euphoria) and can be increased by injuring yourself (not recommended) or eating DL-phenylalanine
DAMGO - Synthetic peptide which strongly antagonizes the Delta receptor, noted for its ability to prevent tolerance when administered with morphine
http://opioids.com/damgo/
http://opioids.com/tolerance/damgo.html
Damgo does a buncha other cool stuff too :-P

A cool factoid about the endorphins is that they are not scheduled, and are recreational, however they're rediculously hard to synthesize, and extremely expensive for 10mg from Sigma Aldrich (not a source cause noone here could buy anything from them - no, dont even try, its like calling the DEA and asking them to sell you some weed). The problem with endorphins is that the body has enzymes which regulate them by breaking them down if there are too many, so the high would last 10 seconds, much like the post-coital glow. The other problem is that they would need to be injected intra-cerebrally (spinal may work!)

Good catch Piglet! Did you used to be a hiver? If so I ran across an old thread of you discussing N-(2-phenyl)ethyl-codeine :-)

So Blah Blah Blah, I hope you have time to front post a beautiful compilation of every opiate known to man (sans minor variations on a theme, and non-active ones).
 
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I have been really staying away from Opiates/Opioids lately because I refuse to develop a habit that keeps me from maintaining a normal life. I have enough of a psychological addiction. However, after reading posts on Oxymorphone, I have decided that I will definitely allow myself that pleasure if I ever get the chance. Are there any websites that have accurate information about it? Is it active orally, insufflated, and IV? What forms does it come in? Which would be the best route of administration? I know most of you would probably say IV, but with Oxycodone and Hydrocodone, I'd rather stick with oral, or in the case of OxyContin (insufflated). But then there is Hydromorphone, which I would never use any way other than IV, unless I was using in orally/insufflated mixed with another Opiate. I was on 30mgs of Hydrocodone, 2mgs of Xanax, and I insufflated 4mgs of Dilaudid, and I had a great effect. Anyhow, any info on Oxymorphone?
 
I don't see why anyone is including Loperamide in the list. Sure it doesn't produce any recreational euphoria, but who doesn't keep any near by in case you have to go a few days before your next score, to help fight the cravings and get rid of the drippiest diarrhea man has ever seen.

After all, the box lists tranquilization as a possible side effect ;)
 
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How many more posts similar to this are we going to be subjected to?
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While I agree that there are way too many posts about "most euphoric opiod", I feel that this post could become a valuable reference if blahblahblah (or a mod) was able to compile the later posts in this thread with the first post in the same format. If a mod then made this a stickey thread it could drastically cut down the number of questions about specific opiates.

Yes I realise there is a FAQ forum, but I feel that OD has its own unique topics that it talks about, and it may be appropriate for example to have an opiates FAQ and a stimulants FAQ and a downer FAQ at the top of the forum. Maybe this thread could be the beginning of an all-encompassing opiate FAQ?
 
A lot of the people that goto OD, read only OD and whether or not it was an FAQ the best place for it is here. Also, if it doesn't intrest you just skip it. A lot of threads don't intrest me, so I ignore them.
 
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