Lima on edge after police kill woman, wound 1-year-old child in drug raid

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Mostslepton said:
no, crackheads are not people. The crack spirits have taken them over.

human vs crackhead = crackhead dead - just as much as human vs cockroach = cockroach dead.

Kill all the crackheads and everyone the crackheads associate with. It's like a virus.. it's like zombification.

Crackheads aren't real people. I'm not even sure if they are alive. I think the crack actually keeps them alive while they are really dead.

Crackheads are zombies, seriously. That's how the idea of zombies came around. Look it up. Google it.

Zombies in the movies are nothing more than an allegory for crackheads. 28 weeks later? Yeah, crackheads.


And just so you know I've been in "the hood" and have witnessed firsthand what crack does.. so STFU.

Flap your jaws all you want. your ignorance shinin thru the cracks in your "logic" betrays your smug-ass claims that you know whats really up. If ya did....you wouldnt be talkin that shit.

The more you talk the stupider you look , prolly be a good look to quit before you show how much more of nothing you know. As far as your lil crackheads aint people theory there , only someone wit a big ego and small IQ runs around sayin generalizations wider than a 72 Eldorado. ....Irony got a way of findin the folks who sit on a high horse. I aint gonna waste my time with you no more.
 
This thread is rife with self-righteous druggie propaganda... what to address first. Sigh.

Actually, I’ve never seen the movie “Dazed and Confused”… however, I can say… it’s a M-O-V-I-E dude. You do know movies are made up and do not reflect the realities of the word, don’t you? Man, and you think I’m brainwashed?

Once again, it flew WAY over your head. What I was driving at is that the “point” of the thread (like the movie) is based on perception. I could just as well mindlessly echo all your sentiments and be like "OMG lolz those fucking pigs shot at some crackheads!" where, in fact, I decided to point out the fact that this particular scenario would have been avoided had this woman not have been involved with somebody who SELLS FUCKING CRACK out her house. This is a perfect example of the types of human beings who should not reproduce. That'll learn her.

If you truly believe a human being is as insignificant as a fly, then you are the one who is dense.

Funny how you were the one who brought up the word subjective.

Then you must believe freedom is concept of a moron. “Rights” were ‘dreamed up’ to secure freedom against oppression.

You are a grade A fool. There is existential freedom, sure. But where human and animal "rights" are concerned, it is nothing more than a mental construct respected only by the majority in human society. In the eyes of nature, you only have a "right" by virtue of the fact that you can do whatever the fuck you want and most likely will unless a certain consequence dictates otherwise (see: gravity, cause and effect, and -more recently/newly - man-made bullshit laws).

And FYI, most people aren't "free". I doubt you've ever tasted true freedom in your life.

Compassion for me, but not the mother of six who was needlessly killed?

*whoosh*

I'm noticing a pattern here. I'm going to quit operating under the assumption that you are perceptive enough to follow along with me. While I never explicitly stated anything to that effect, the meaning behind that statement was inferred. Again, adding levity and responding with an imitation of your word choice in order to illustrate a point.

Clearly, you've missed something. You now have my pity.

So you endorse only a particular set of drugs, and you maintain no compassion for the family in that article because of the type of drug? Would you be as starved for compassion as you are now if it was someone dealing “a plant”? You condemn crack and similar drugs because they are not held to your personal definition of “recreational value” that has a “potential to evolve the spirit”?

Fool. Let me break it down in simpler terms for you.

Crackheads = I have no respect for them.

Add to that list the following: baseheads, tweekers, methheads, ignorant stoners, druggies and junkies incapable of responsible, intelligent drug use.

Those guys ^^, IMHO = scum.

Shit drugs = WHACK.

People who use drugs for recreation but at least put some research into what they put in their bodies, and people who use [most] any drugs with the intent of achieving advanced states of consciousness, evolving their minds/spirit, etc; this I'm all for.

War on drugs = BULLSHIT. We're in agreement there.

But I don't give a fuck about crack heads and junkies. Kill them all for all I care, you feel me? That's where I stand on responsible drug use, and again it is my personal OPINION. I'm not saying it's the way it should be or anything. It's how I feel. No need to take it up the ass.

This incident doesn't affect me in the slightest, and yes the war on drugs sucks but unless you actively get involved in "the system" to make some changes or at least vote for somebody who might foreseeably impact positive change where drug laws are concerned, STFU. All your bitching and whining on a message board accomplishes nothing.

how do you so easily apply the meaning of the word “spirit” (a word and definition that some moron dreamed up) while you simultaneously refuse to acknowledge a concept of natural human rights?

Dude, spirituality does not imply morals and other such mental constructs. And surely, it also depends on how you define the word. You know nothing of my beliefs in regard to spirituality, and if you are falsely assuming that I have no notion of compassion or that I lack spiritual awareness just because I don't give two shits about crackheads; you are then sadly mistaken.

people who make distinctions, the way you do, based upon whether it's synthetic or from the ground tend to be a little naive about their drugs.

False. This would be incorrect. No two ways about it.

There are plenty of synthetic compounds that'll "evolve your spirit", whatever that means

You aren't telling me anything I don't already know. In past occurrences I've had plenty of experience with this.

I never implicitly stated that ALL synthetic drugs are garbage and that organic drugs are where it's at. It saddens me to know that you believe I alluded to this point.

As an example, I have no desire to ever try LSD whatsoever, yet I don't envision a situation under which I'd ever quit DXM permanently. Granted, I haven't used it in over two years. Obviously, my point passed well over your head as well.

As far as your lil crackheads aint people theory there , only someone wit a big ego and small IQ runs around sayin generalizations wider than a 72 Eldorado.

I refer you to one of my other posts where I addressed the fact that I was exagerating it a bit for effect.

you would blame women for being raped because they were born with cunts

Not the same thing at all. Hardly.

You FAIL.
 
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Flap your jaws all you want. your ignorance shinin thru the cracks in your "logic" betrays your smug-ass claims that you know whats really up. If ya did....you wouldnt be talkin that shit.

Ok, smart one.

Come join me for a casual stroll through Elmwood Park then... or perhaps we should take a trip through certain parts of Houston where I grew up, see how nice all the crackheads are. Go into several of their hide out spots and see how [sarcasm]alive and imbued with motivation, cognizance and positive energy they are[/sarcasm].

Come on, it'll be fun! We can where our finest outfits and walk around flashing some jewlery, see how long it takes us to be accosted by crackheads. We can then find a friendly neighborhood crack dealer and ask him to borrow $5 for a bus ticket and a bite to eat.

I doubt you've ever had a friend turned crackhead/hardcore heroin user to the point where they'de do ANYTHING to get their fix, including lieing to friends and family, stealing from you or anyone, giving blowjobs for it if necessary, etc. I haven't, but I've known people who have.

I've also worked for temp agencies (like, the temporary daily labor jobs that typically burdens to society get) with crackheads before.

But yea, I don't know what I'm talking about. I've only seen crackheads on TV and the way the media portrays them. 8)
 
Mostslepton said:
I doubt you've ever had a friend turned crackhead/hardcore heroin user to the point where they'de do ANYTHING to get their fix, including lieing to friends and family, stealing from you or anyone, giving blowjobs for it if necessary, etc. I haven't, but I've known people who have.

Nah youre right, i aint had A friend who did that. ive had friendS who did tho. Not to mention a couple family members who have. :| I aint got nothing to say to someone who would turn their back on fam like that. obviously you bitter about the shit so you put it in black n white n forgot about the person inside of that shell. you wanna write off your closest people like that then you never really fucken cared that much to begin wit. You jus said yourself that you aint been there. oh but you know people who did tho. So that makes you qualified to judge that every single smoker out there is a worthless piece of garbage.

OMG, zombies! Yea, 28 days later was the first movie to ever deal wit zombies, but they definately aint had that concept in the 50s long before crack ever came out. Thas mad insightful of you. keep on wit your cute lil comedy act. Ever been the person who people claim aint got no soul? You said you aint. Guess what I have. and I came out the other side. I been high outta my mind on crack and dope and never sucked a dick for another hit or did nothing other than sell my own shit and run my own hustle everyday to get high on my own money, yep ive robbed folks but never nobody close to me that i cared about. you can be addicted by the balls to some shit but that dont mean you compromise yourself. Most people who get caught up are jus too mentally weak to keep their shit in check even while smokin/shooting their life away and give everyone else a bad name. your "i know people who did this" aint shit, since obvioulsly it taught you nothin but to become bitter and generalize n stereotype every person who uses drugs like base or dope. As far as im concerned, if you aint been there then dont speak on it. if you aint sat hittin that pipe for 8 hours in a bombed out crack house without a penny then what the fuck do you kno about it or whether somebody got a soul or not.
 
I said I've been in direct contact with them, now didn't I? I worked with crackheads before, I've lived in crack-infested areas.

You yourself said you robbed people, this is what I'm talking about. Crackheads are not nice little animals that you let run around your city, they are vile poisonous creatures.

True crackheads aren't really people. They are under the crack spell, and controlled by the spirit of the crack.

Put your ebonics away, that shit is mad tacky in text.
 
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Considering this is flowing like...

anyone: pointA, pointB, etc
mostspleton: you obviously r 2 stooopid to get it, wow you're sooo stupit!!


I've got no interest in continuing to feed the trolls, mostspleton if you're just going to phrase your responses in a way that encourages people to enter pissing contests with you, why even post in the first place? I'd presume you were just a younger kid being a dick but I can tell you're not by your posts, so I'm curious - why bother discussing something in the first place if you are just interested in arguing?
 
Mostslepton said:
Once again, it flew WAY over your head. What I was driving at is that the “point” of the thread (like the movie) is based on perception.

Some things are perceptual, but perception does not necessarily pertain to all instances. I said, "It's about seeing addicts as people who have a medical condition that needs treated as such," you respond with...

"Perhaps the nature of the OP is. But let me ask you a question: What is the movie Dazed and Confused about?"

From that... you actually expect someone to assume you are speaking in reference to perceptual interpretation? Bottom line is, addicts have a treatable condition... that's a fact, not a perception. You are wrong.

Mostslepton said:
in fact, I decided to point out the fact that this particular scenario would have been avoided had this woman not have been involved with somebody who SELLS FUCKING CRACK out her house. This is a perfect example of the types of human beings who should not reproduce. That'll learn her.

Oh, but of course, it's her fault... not the officers or the laws or the drug war... it could have been avoided if they just obey the law. That is a prohibitionist and authoritarian mind set.

Yet, did you or did you not notice that there was no mention of the drugs found in the house, in regards to the article? I suspect that it's because they didn't find but a very small amount or perhaps didn't find a damn thing... otherwise they would have loved to wave that in peoples faces all over the news. You shouldn't be so blatantly ignorant and realize that they may not have been guilty of what you "perceive" them to be in the first place.

Mostslepton said:
There is existential freedom, sure. But where human and animal "rights" are concerned, it is nothing more than a mental construct respected only by the majority in human society. In the eyes of nature, you only have a "right" by virtue of the fact that you can do whatever the fuck you want and most likely will unless a certain consequence dictates otherwise (see: gravity, cause and effect, and -more recently/newly - man-made bullshit laws).

8) here you go with the "eyes of nature" again. You first say there is no such thing as a "Right" and then concur under your "eyes of nature" theme, that there is such a thing. It might thrill you to know, that is the rights I spoke of.

Maybe what you don’t understand, like those people who made bullshit laws, is that the concept of “rights” are those inherent in nature… natural rights. Those rights are not to be GRANTED, they are to be SECURED.

If you are really against the “man-made bullshit laws” and Drug War, and concede that people have natural rights that should be secured against such tyranny, then you shouldn’t be arguing this topic. Your illusion that drug addicts are not people, and therefore have no right to life, that they should all be killed, is utter hypocrisy.

Mostslepton said:
I'm noticing a pattern here. I'm going to quit operating under the assumption that you are perceptive enough to follow along with me. While I never explicitly stated anything to that effect, the meaning behind that statement was inferred. Again, adding levity and responding with an imitation of your word choice in order to illustrate a point.

Ok, you do that. I'm well aware that your remark that you have compassion for me was meant to be condescending. As for not stating anything to the effect, that you have no compassion for the mother of six,... you did in your last post here, ya moron. Here hypocrite, I'll repost it.

Mostslepton said:
This is a perfect example of the types of human beings who should not reproduce. That'll learn her.

Remember?


Mostslepton said:
People who use drugs for recreation but at least put some research into what they put in their bodies, and people who use [most] any drugs with the intent of achieving advanced states of consciousness, evolving their minds/spirit, etc; this I'm all for.

And how do you think most addicts start out? Do you think that people set out to become addicts? For one thing it seems arrogant to condemn people who do not operate under your preferred provisions, but it seems completely retarded to condemn an addict who lost their way, rather than help them find the right path again, through treatment. Perhaps you could do with a bit more evolving of the spirit, and stop acting like a hypocritical idiot.

Mostslepton said:
But I don't give a fuck about crack heads and junkies. Kill them all for all I care, you feel me?

No, I don't feel you. You asked me, "What can possibly be gained from any experience if one allows it to invoke rage, anger, or hostility?" So, it's time to answer your own question, hypocrite. And I ask this question back to you in reference to your obvious hatred, anger, and hostility towards crack heads.

Mostslepton said:
That's where I stand on responsible drug use, and again it is my personal OPINION. I'm not saying it's the way it should be or anything. It's how I feel. No need to take it up the ass.

My first post in this thread merely reflects how I feel, and you felt the need to question it. If you didn't want to engage on this, you should have just kept your mouth shut instead of responding about MY feelings. Who is it here that feels the need to take it up the ass? Jeezus, your a walking dichotomy

Mostslepton said:
Dude, spirituality does not imply morals and other such mental constructs. And surely, it also depends on how you define the word. You know nothing of my beliefs in regard to spirituality, and if you are falsely assuming that I have no notion of compassion or that I lack spiritual awareness just because I don't give two shits about crackheads; you are then sadly mistaken.

Of course it depends on your definition of the word, but to say morality is a mental construct implies that morality is based on logical thought… which is never the case. Morality is completely influenced by emotion. Emotion has a great deal in connection with spirituality. If you don’t think so, then you are sadly mistaken, yourself. I’ve made no assumption concerning your spirituality, I merely bring to your attention your contradictory use of words and concepts.

Mostslepton said:
True crackheads aren't really people. They are under the crack spell, and controlled by the spirit of the crack.

You have serious issues, dude. You spout self-righteous BS that addicts are not really people, under a crack “spell”, and controlled by the “spirit” of the crack. So, it’s ok to use drugs to evolve the spirit, but if you get addicted, fuck you and die… you’re under the spirit of the drug now.

In a nut shell, that is what you have presented you view to be. Not to mention that you have completely expressed an anger and hostility towards drug addicts, while condescending those who express anger and hostility towards the injustice they perceived in the given article. Are you a Christian or something? Your hypocrisy runs deep.
 
Mostslepton, I can totally sympathize with dabbling in Determinism/Fatalism, but as Stephen Hawking says, ya gotta act as if it just ain't so.

Of course, ya don't gotta, but if you don't the end result will be just a lotta people pissed off at ya.

But something tells me you don't care too much about that... :D
 
It seems odd that this troll is rambling on about 'advanced states of consciousness' while calling everyone fools and such.

That is so reflective of having an advanced state of mind!!
 
why hasn't phrozen closed this retarded flame fest?

I'm a little disapointed... A thread that's included the advocation of murder against addicts probably ought to be closed, no?
 
I am disappointed by this thread. Mostslepton, you need to learn some manners and respect for civil conversation. Disagreements and arguments are fine, but you have crossed the line into personal attacks. This is the internet equivalent of being at a dinner party, getting into a political argument with someone and throwing your wine in their face. Indeed, you are the fool of this thread - next time don't take everything personally. If you get that upset every time you have an argument on the internet, you will have a heart attack by the time you are 30.

The next time this happens, I will not hesitate to put a warning on your account. We moderate this forum very closely.

For everyone else: Use the report function if you see this kind of thing going on in the thread. We can't be everywhere at once. Reporting just alerts us to a problem so we can make a call on what to do. Help us with that next time please.
 
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