Ok so pretty much every one i know hates salvia finds it extremely unpleasent and frightening i for one dont necessarily enjoy it however i like its power to put you into another world completely and find it interesting to say the least. Any of you like this or do some of you actually have fun on trips?
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Liking Salvia?
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I like salvia, however when I do get around to smoking some, I'm turned off of it for a while. But it's been quite a bit since the last time I delved into the salvia world, so maybe it's time for another go around (8 Either way I don't find it frightening.
polidelaiko
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Its not something fun, but it certainly has s very strong WOW factor. And if you don´t move during the trip, it doesnt give you the pins and needles that can be so painful.
lysergication
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I got some of the most profound realization from salvia and therefore I consider it like a powerfull, magical shamanic plant as valuable as ayahuasca can be, for example.
Chainer
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I've done 30x and 50x about 10 times total.
I loved every single experience, besides the insane sweating on the come down that rapidly goes away. I think they've been my single most powerful psychedelic experiences, and I've taken upward 300mcg LSD, and on separate occasions 100-150mg 2c-e or other 2cs. The length of time you are under it's effects really are what make it a viable drug - it would be too potent if it lasted for hours.
I loved every single experience, besides the insane sweating on the come down that rapidly goes away. I think they've been my single most powerful psychedelic experiences, and I've taken upward 300mcg LSD, and on separate occasions 100-150mg 2c-e or other 2cs. The length of time you are under it's effects really are what make it a viable drug - it would be too potent if it lasted for hours.
Venrak
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Salvia has the greatest ability of all psychedelics to show you where you are in life and what you're doing wrong. it doesn't mess around, it gets straight to the point, and it is a very harsh teacher. It takes a lot of time to integrate salvia trips into your sober reality due to its dissociative nature and the amnesia usually caused. Day by day, different details from the trip are revealed and you can eventually piece it all together and draw meaning from it. You also have to develop a relationship with her, and not use her for recreational purposes. If you come back and visit her too soon, you will be cosmically bitchslapped and shown again what exactly you are.
Thorns Have Roses
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lysergication
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That's exactly how I've experienced it.
rolling_anon
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Weird.
Is about the only word I have for it.
Is about the only word I have for it.
rolling_anon
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I'm just kind of glad I never met these Salvia spirits people claim they get instruction/ridicule from. I think this stuff has potential to open doors.
Flickering
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RhythmSpring
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Salvia is a teacher yes, a harsh one? Not always. I find a light, humorous teacher in Salvia. Wise, god yes. Harsh? Maybe if you do a lot. I do a bowl of 13x at a time. You don't have to blast off into the netherworlds of reality in order to gain something from the Salvia experience. In fact, "less is more" often applies.
Salvia is a fantastic psychedelic in my opinion. Is it fun, not usually but I don't always eat psychedelics to have fun. If I was just looking to have a good time I'd do some coke or something, if I'm trying to reexamine myself and my situation a strong psychedelic like salvia tends to do the trick.
synchrojet
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The most valuable lesson salvia taught me was that I am not anywhere near understanding anywhere near as much as I thought I did about my relationship with drugs and my tendency to believe I have "mastered" myself. I am nowhere near that state of existence.
I certainly thought I was before I truly broke through with salvia (something I thought I had done when I got that first strong breakthrough that transports one to another space but without suspending the ability to think while there - this is what I believe most who claim to have broken through - and believe it - have yet to experience a genuine complete breakthrough - which temporarily eliminates the ability to think to one's self at all while in the new world), and furthermore it effectively reminded me that arrogance toward psychedelics (the belief that I had "mastered" them so to speak) is a good indicator of exactly the opposite, and a precursor to a very humbling reminder somewhere in that person's future salvia experiences. Salvia was the single most imposing drug experience I ever had, including my DMT experience, and kicked my ass so thoroughly I spent the better part of a month wondering if I had in fact died and resurrected in a similar but subtly different reality. It really got my attention once I genuinely broke all the way through on it - which brings me back to the most importand thing to understand about this drug: there is what seems like a full breakthrough and then there is the legitimate full breakthrough - two very different experiences to say the least. The first can mislead one to believing they are completely immune to its ability to COMPLETELY transport them to a different reality altogether and simultaneously SUSPEND THE ABILITY TO THINK AT ALL while fully in that place. The ability to think returns as the effects wear off and is just as startling and disorienting as any other effect. This truly complete breakthrough experience is a beast to say the least and probably the most effective antidote to arrogance toward psychedelics and even drugs in general. My genuine breakthrough was by far the most frightnening psychedelic experience I'd ever had and I have no desire to repeat it at all. In other words, this particular drug reminded me that I am not above the possibility of abusing any drug, nor any of their negative effects. Any of you reading this and telling yourselves that you have "mastered" this drug are in for a surprise if you continue using it with this attitude believe me. Treat this one with great respect.
I certainly thought I was before I truly broke through with salvia (something I thought I had done when I got that first strong breakthrough that transports one to another space but without suspending the ability to think while there - this is what I believe most who claim to have broken through - and believe it - have yet to experience a genuine complete breakthrough - which temporarily eliminates the ability to think to one's self at all while in the new world), and furthermore it effectively reminded me that arrogance toward psychedelics (the belief that I had "mastered" them so to speak) is a good indicator of exactly the opposite, and a precursor to a very humbling reminder somewhere in that person's future salvia experiences. Salvia was the single most imposing drug experience I ever had, including my DMT experience, and kicked my ass so thoroughly I spent the better part of a month wondering if I had in fact died and resurrected in a similar but subtly different reality. It really got my attention once I genuinely broke all the way through on it - which brings me back to the most importand thing to understand about this drug: there is what seems like a full breakthrough and then there is the legitimate full breakthrough - two very different experiences to say the least. The first can mislead one to believing they are completely immune to its ability to COMPLETELY transport them to a different reality altogether and simultaneously SUSPEND THE ABILITY TO THINK AT ALL while fully in that place. The ability to think returns as the effects wear off and is just as startling and disorienting as any other effect. This truly complete breakthrough experience is a beast to say the least and probably the most effective antidote to arrogance toward psychedelics and even drugs in general. My genuine breakthrough was by far the most frightnening psychedelic experience I'd ever had and I have no desire to repeat it at all. In other words, this particular drug reminded me that I am not above the possibility of abusing any drug, nor any of their negative effects. Any of you reading this and telling yourselves that you have "mastered" this drug are in for a surprise if you continue using it with this attitude believe me. Treat this one with great respect.
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