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Addiction Life might be better meth free

I don't know what happened, but it's one day with a breakdown. Try to get some rest (breakdowns take a lot of energy) and be good to yourself.

Tomorrow is another day with a new chance to start over. And to think about what went wrong, so you can avoid doing the same mistakes or being exposed to the same situations again.

Having a job you like is something worth fighting for.
 
Thank you & you are right. Too much going for to lose it to addiction. I’ve already beat heroin addiction- idk why I started this up again with m.
 
@theangryflower

Keep at it. See a counselor or psychologist, make a goal to go without for say two weeks then try to go longer etc. no one quits on their first try. Just keep at it. I know it sucks and it gets you booked fast but be strong and you'll make it out sooner rather than later :)
 
I laid around in bed for about 2 years To get away from meth. I wasn't clean , just used everything but meth. Ended up getting on prescription pills to fill that void. If you started today, you might be over the worst of it in 4 years.
We all kinda know it's a long psychological struggle.
I knew one guy that just put it down one day after 16 years on dope.

Other than that I know a few other people that put it down after a struggle.

You been using every couple of weeks or months since the 90s ... That's honestly how most people I know do it. I lost contact with anyone who used daily already.

Everybody is different but I'd say 2 to 4 for functional recovery.
 
You're definitely not alone, I have been dealing with the same thing and I know how hard it is.

When I try to get clean from meth I just end up sleeping or lying in bed 24/7 for like 6 or 7 days until I am so uncomfortable just being stagnant that I'm forced to get up, take a shower and move my body.

When we quit drugs our brains are craving that endorphin release that meth or heroin or whatever your drug of choice is gives us. A way to achieve the same type of endorphin rush is by strenuous exercise. You don't need a gym membership or any equipment, you just need to move your body in a repetitive way so that you get tired and feel like you just had a good workout. I've done this in my studio apartment by just practicing repetitive motions like pushups or shadow boxing or air guitar 🎸, it doesn't really matter how you achieve it just make yourself tired and work your muscles.

This will help you with sleep and cravings and all sorts of things related to withdrawal.

Before I got addicted I ran cross country and track. I would sometimes achieve what they call "runner's high" - it felt like I was floating and not exerting any energy at all. Best high I've ever had, and it all came from the endorphin release in your brain.

There are other ways to achieve the same state that I won't speak of because of my lack of experience - but stick with it, time will heal those horrible cravings; give exercise a try...what do you have to lose?

Best of luck!
 
I don't know what happened, but it's one day with a breakdown. Try to get some rest (breakdowns take a lot of energy) and be good to yourself.

Tomorrow is another day with a new chance to start over. And to think about what went wrong, so you can avoid doing the same mistakes or being exposed to the same situations again.

Having a job you like is something worth fighting for.
What is with all the motivational sayings? Did you get one of those inspirational calenders that has a different positive phrase or saying for everyday of the year? Or have you begun to understand and on some level learn to connect with humans? Without one of those stupid calendars? Because those things you wrote were too long to be in fortune cookies.
 
What is with all the motivational sayings? Did you get one of those inspirational calenders that has a different positive phrase or saying for everyday of the year? Or have you begun to understand and on some level learn to connect with humans? Without one of those stupid calendars? Because those things you wrote were too long to be in fortune cookies.
I do what I can.
And never reveal my sources.
 
Well this was a failure. About had a nervous breakdown and left my husband and quit my job. Thankfully, I did neither. But I caved. Now I am sneaking around with a bag, doing little bumps to not fall apart. I do not want this for my life. My family would be ashamed. I love my job. I cannot lose it all. Feeling so lost.
I can so relate to this. How are you doing now. I ve been sneaking around too. My family doesn’t know. I have a job and I’m managing but I just took the weekend off and plan to go off today which is Thursday. I have four days to get clean. I’m really serious this time. I want this so bad.
 
What a bafflingly determined addiction. Seriously. I’ve been off of work for almost 2 weeks because I couldn’t control me using and pissed off my supervisor. I just took some tests and it looks like might have hepatitiis, i told my landlord I am moving out at the end of next month and all I’ve been doing is laying around the house getting night until I can’t even get high anymore, my veins turn into armored transports, I keep feeling pain in my chest, I am positive that the police are going to come arrest me for getting High in my house and looking at porn because my neighbor beneath me snitched on men for keeping him up all night making so much noise.

, but seriously. Wtf if wrong with me? I am not even enjoying myself doing that. And I am just some fucking pervert stuck behind a computer screen. Like I am so much fucking cooler when I am sober and am actually capable of tying my own fucking shoes. Living alone sucks. And I was just released from prison in 2023…. I am not trying to return to being homeless or goin back to the pen. So why the fuck am I not stopping? I’ve already spent 3000 dollars to go to a detox for 10 days and relapsed the day I got out. I just feel like it’s inevitable. I was even getting beyond baked in prison and being stupid. I’m not even gay but I let guys fuck me when I am high. It makes no fucking sense.

I pretty much can’t stand myself but completely lack any power to change.

Meth, I just want you to know, that I fucking hate you. 🖕
 
What a bafflingly determined addiction. Seriously. I’ve been off of work for almost 2 weeks because I couldn’t control me using and pissed off my supervisor. I just took some tests and it looks like might have hepatitiis, i told my landlord I am moving out at the end of next month and all I’ve been doing is laying around the house getting night until I can’t even get high anymore, my veins turn into armored transports, I keep feeling pain in my chest, I am positive that the police are going to come arrest me for getting High in my house and looking at porn because my neighbor beneath me snitched on men for keeping him up all night making so much noise.

, but seriously. Wtf if wrong with me? I am not even enjoying myself doing that. And I am just some fucking pervert stuck behind a computer screen. Like I am so much fucking cooler when I am sober and am actually capable of tying my own fucking shoes. Living alone sucks. And I was just released from prison in 2023…. I am not trying to return to being homeless or goin back to the pen. So why the fuck am I not stopping? I’ve already spent 3000 dollars to go to a detox for 10 days and relapsed the day I got out. I just feel like it’s inevitable. I was even getting beyond baked in prison and being stupid. I’m not even gay but I let guys fuck me when I am high. It makes no fucking sense.

I pretty much can’t stand myself but completely lack any power to change.

Meth, I just want you to know, that I fucking hate you. 🖕
Oh shit. It's like that. Just keep trying and eventually you'll win. It's just that meth ALWAYS has the head start :( 10 day detox won't do jack shit, those sort of places just do it for the money. Takes 3-4 weeks to clear your system and probably 2-3 months of sobriety to get back to a normalish state. I hope you manage to quit. It's a stupid stupid addiction. I got to the point where I wasn't enjoying myself several times. One day I just said "no fuck this. No more" and stuck it out...felt like a living nightmare for the first few weeks. But I kept my mind focused on Far Cry 6 and then Far Cry 5. It was my little refuge. Just ate shitloads but eventually started exercising daily which I still maintain to this day. The thing is as well there's no replacement drug therapy. Well not a reliable one anyway. You can make the change. But it won't be easy. It'll be hell for a while. Argh it doesn't help when you have neighbours etc who may be clued on a bit. I doubt the cops will just randomly show up but I think it's safer to just get off the shit. Save yourself instead of letting the meth win over and over again. I wish you the best of luck and feel free to reach out even if you just want to chat/vent about anything :)
 
Yeah the whole neighborhood pretty much knows I am on drugs. Is what happens when ems has been here on a few occasions. It’s like my mind can and will rationalize any stupid idea it’s tweaked mind fathoms. I’m supposed to go back to work this week. But now I’m out of dope. And am going to be so shot all week at work. If I take off I know I’ll go to my dealers house and get more. I can also rationalize anything when I’m sober.

Thanks for the advice and the sharing your optimist. One day at a time, right? Happy easter
 
Yeah the whole neighborhood pretty much knows I am on drugs. Is what happens when ems has been here on a few occasions. It’s like my mind can and will rationalize any stupid idea it’s tweaked mind fathoms. I’m supposed to go back to work this week. But now I’m out of dope. And am going to be so shot all week at work. If I take off I know I’ll go to my dealers house and get more. I can also rationalize anything when I’m sober.

Thanks for the advice and the sharing your optimist. One day at a time, right? Happy easter
Yeah definitely take it one day at a time. Happy Easter to you too! Hmm see how you go I think. It can be helpful having something to fill in time (like work lol) if you really struggle maybe see if you can get a day or two off. But you'll be right. Coffee was extremely helpful for me especially mixed with Lion's Mane powder. But yeah 3-4 cups a day and I think the antioxidents do actually help a lot with WD. And no worries at all. If it's any help, I can't believe my brain chemistry is 99% intact over years of on-off abuse. Time heals a lot, including your brain. But getting to that stage is like crawling in mud. But there's a light at the end of the tunnel. Definitely. I think 3-6 months without using you'll be good again :)
 
In the spirit of ingesting illicit substances, I give you some of the greatest remarks on the subject:
“I have absolutely no pleasure in the stimulants in which I sometimes so madly indulge. It has not been in the pursuit of pleasure that I have periled life and reputation and reason. It has been the desperate attempt to escape from torturing memories, from a sense of insupportable loneliness and a dread of some strange impending doom.”
― Edgar Allan Poe

“I admire addicts. In a world where everybody is waiting for some blind, random disaster or some sudden disease, the addict has the comfort of knowing what will most likely wait for him down the road. He's taken some control over his ultimate fate, and his addiction keeps the cause of his death from being a total surprise.”
― Chuck Palahniuk, Choke

“Reality is just a crutch for people who can't handle drugs.”
― Robin Williams

“We had two bags of grass, seventy-five pellets of mescaline, five sheets of high powered blotter acid, a salt shaker half full of cocaine, and a whole galaxy of multi-colored uppers, downers, screamers, laughers... and also a quart of tequila, a quart of rum, a case of Budweiser, a pint of raw ether and two dozen amyls.
Not that we needed all that for the trip, but once you get locked into a serious drug collection, the tendency is to push it as far as you can.”
― Hunter S. Thompson, Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas: A Savage Journey to the Heart of the American Dream

“You realize that people take drugs because it's the only real personal adventure left to them in their time-constrained, law-and-order, property-lined world. It's only in drugs or death we'll see anything new, and death is just too controlling.”
― Chuck Palahniuk, Survivor

“Drugs don't really fix anything, except for everything.”
― Ashly Lorenzana

“If you didn't do anything that wasn't good for you it would be a very dull life. What are you gonna do? Everything that is pleasant in life is dangerous. Have you noticed that? I'd like to find the bastard that thought that one up.”
― Lemmy Kilmister
 
It’s a big comfort to know that there are people who have experienced the things that trouble us. The worst lie I can tell myself is that there is something wrong with me, in the sense that it is exclusively for me and not for others. For being such rational beings everyone’s life is steered , at times, by the most irrational desires. We try to hold it together and tell ourselves that it won’t be us. We will not allow ourselves to slip into madness. I’m not sure that we realize that at the point of this saying we have already gone around the bend. But those who say that they have not are living a delusion. I would rather be true than be right. I just hope that one day, I’ll be able to exert some form of control over my obsessions, so that they won’t cause me to lose the things in life that allow me to have moments of comfort and joy.

I love all of those quotes, thanks so much for charging them.

I hope that I am able to do what I desire to do in order to maintain a life with options and not become destitute, living a life where I must do what I must to survive. I have already crossed so many lines that my soul condemns me for. But I am a slave to my own happiness. And right now the only way to quiet those uncomfortable thoughts is to get high. Maybe I should talk to a therapist. Lol I would like to believe this helps too. Gonna try to get 5 hours sleep before I have to work. Night yall
 
Hi…I really love what you had to say. I’m a sober alcoholic too (15 years)…Now I found meth and think I’m addicted and want to stop. I’m not sure how to do it…could you give me some pointers and things you experienced. I would really appreciate it. David
What purpose did the drink and now the meth serve for you? What did you feel you were getting out of it? That's where to start. Then think of healthier ways to generate the desired feelings / state of mind. When you have clear insight into your reasons, you can challenge those reasons.
 
I just want to chime in and say, long ago I was addicted to a crap ton of ephedrine and loads of coffee. May as well have been meth. Up for days at a time. It was hard to kick. My depression became worse. I was in college I won't get into tl;dr but I started cutting my arms and legs to hell. After the upper addiction faded, self-harm filled the void. Traded one poison for another. Being addicted to your body's natural endorphins is just as awful as any 'hardcore' substance.
I'm three years self-harm-free and can honestly say recovery is possible. Oh, how hard it was. There are still days when I'm not walking but crawling through life. Know you're not alone in your struggles, and if you need someone to listen to you, I'm more than willing.
 
Youre on the righr track. You recognize that thwre is a better way and you are taking steps and making progress. Dont let slips and stumbles deter you man... its part of it. Sounds like you stumbled in a moment of weakness becauss of easy availability ( old paraphenelia ).... then you took steps to make sure that didnt happen again. Moments of weakness happen ...

What usually catches me about methamphetamine is its wasy availability and how it seems to pop up in the least expected places or at the worst possible times and i rationalize that it will help me out with. * insert whatever hard task is going on that takes alot of time or energy at that time*.
It might... but is that task really worth the potential to fall into a full blown methamphetamine habit. Seems like the older i get and the more times ive been through it.... thag potwntial gets bigger and bigger. Anyway keep it up man...
 
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