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  • BDD Moderators: Keif’ Richards | negrogesic

Levomethamphetamine, or Propylhexedrine?

Which lame OTC CNS stimulant do you prefer; because you can't get any real drugs?


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haha dont let the "methamphetamine" in levomethamphetamine decive you. apparnelty thier 3-d orientation makes a BIG diffrence in phsiological effects and effects on the cns and just overall psychoactivity. it isnt really good at all:\
 
prop was shit for me. My brain felt like 1000 blood vessel dams broke and my head about to explode. not to mention the massive headache nothing could cure, the endless vomit, and the lavander
 
Dude.. Which lame OTC CNS stimulant do you prefer; because you can't get any real drugs?

Wtf? I can get real drugs and I'll take PHX over a good few of them. PHX over adderall any-fucking-day. If you go through and extract PHX into a powder.. it's incredible.
 
propyl is 100x better. period. levo is all the negative without the positive. dont waste your time powdering the propyl, just do a lemon juice extraction and chug. youll be twacked! i usually mix it 50/50 with pretty heavy sweetened ice tea for a hell of an arnold palmer, lol.

and i would recomend some sort of vasco dilator.
 
is doing this safe? does it have any long term effects?

how does the high compare to adderall?
 
is doing this safe? does it have any long term effects?

how does the high compare to adderall?

The extract doesn't make you feel as shitty the next day as addies (like the soreness). I think the toxicity is higher for PHX.

There is no comparison, propylhexedrine rapes adderall in the asshole.
 
Eh I don't think they are more dangerous rectal, I don't know about the bioavailability?

Dude, with propylhexedrine, you wouldn't need to combine.

Last time I used propylhexedrine, it didn't make me very speedy.

Would it be okay to do a few Vick's inhalers(soaking them)?

I wanna be awake tomorrow in school:).
 
*gag*

I absolutely hate the smell of these "medicated" inhalers. Lavender and menthol.. ugh. I really wonder if anyone has ever tried plugging these things, but I dunno if Lavender oil and menthol might cause some distress in the butt.

*edit* After some research, I haven't been able to find anyone who was brave/foolish enough to try and plug propylhexedrine. If it did work, it would all but eliminate those absolutely disgusting lavender burps and there wouldn't be that disgusting taste...
 
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*gag*

I absolutely hate the smell of these "medicated" inhalers. Lavender and menthol.. ugh. I really wonder if anyone has ever tried plugging these things, but I dunno if Lavender oil and menthol might cause some distress in the butt.

*edit* After some research, I haven't been able to find anyone who was brave/foolish enough to try and plug propylhexedrine. If it did work, it would all but eliminate those absolutely disgusting lavender burps and there wouldn't be that disgusting taste...


Or you could do like I do, extract the PHX (leaving all the lavender and menthol in the container along with the nasty cotton).. and you get a nice pure white powder of propylhexedrine.

The high is ungodly.
 
Propylhexedrine XR recipe

Biggest difference between adderall/amphetamines and Propylhexedrine is that the latter is much less "tweaky" and overstimulating than amphetamines. The dopamine aspect to the high just as good if not stronger, but the peak is much more physiologically mellow, and, in the latter stages, verging on mildly sedative (maybe something to do w/ the menthol?). Also, the duration is shorter than adderall (about 4-5 hours with a liquid extract).

Also, a new breakthrough in the field of otc stims: I tried to create a non-liquid extract of propylhexedrine, by doing the basic liquid extraction, and then slowly evaporating off the water in the microwave over the course of 20 min. What was left was a nastly looking bed of brown, toffee-consistency scum. I took small (2 by 2 inch) squares of toilet paper and wiped the extract on about 4-5 of these. I balled them up, and stuffed these balls into 3-4 OO gel caps. The gel caps took longer to kick in than the liquid extract (about an hour vs. 20 min), but lasted substantially longer, more on the level of 5 to 6.5 hours vs. 4 with liquid, intensity equivelant to the liquid. Toilet paper, unlike cotton, will be dissolved in the stomach, and still extends the duration, effectively making it propylhexedrine XR. Well worth the extra 20 min of prep, IMO. :)
 
An even better way of preparing it is too look up an extraction here on the www, theres lot of em out there, most of em involve 1 or two main chems, fergot the technical terms, anyway they involve introducing the chems, adding water, and heating, not boiling off the chem, and the water tilll ur left with a powder, you do one more wash and all the menthol, or camphor is gone, dry it with a fan and ur left with a pure powder. I have yet to try, still comparing diffrent techniques, and i need to find me a stove.
 
ok for one thing levmethamphetamine does do somthing , i never eat more than 2 at a time , and i get a good euphoric high for 3-4 hours, yes i agree its certainly not real meth, but comeon this is america what would you expect for somthing that is unregulated im not sure but i think the benzedrex does last longer though , slightley differant high
 
I Plugged Propylhexedrine

*gag*

I absolutely hate the smell of these "medicated" inhalers. Lavender and menthol.. ugh. I really wonder if anyone has ever tried plugging these things, but I dunno if Lavender oil and menthol might cause some distress in the butt.

*edit* After some research, I haven't been able to find anyone who was brave/foolish enough to try and plug propylhexedrine. If it did work, it would all but eliminate those absolutely disgusting lavender burps and there wouldn't be that disgusting taste...

I plugged yesterday.

Over the course of one day, I had three inhalers. $16

I really wanted to learn to titrate my dose so that I don't use up everything in one day, but , when stims are there...:\

I can't seem to stop doing them all in one freaking day, no matter how much is there!!!

Bad habit that has to be broken!

Anyway,
Two cottons were mixed in a drink that had citric acid, "Squirt Energizer," I believe was it's name, has caffeine in it, too! And, I was sipping it half-way-through when I said, "Wait a minute. What about plugging?" (I think I said the same dang thing to myself about pop tea years ago, but the tea was much worse to get down than lavender and menthol, so plugging was the best option, and longest-lasting!)

So, I did it with the third unused inhaler, after soaking it in lemon juice, shaking it up, and adding Ozarka water to half the bottle (about a cup's worth, 8oz). Position that Ozarka bottle right and you can force the liquid into where you want it without actually having to insert anything in there! Gotta be forcing yourself to "stand" on a wall, though, with your back to the ground and your butt in the air (keeps only liquid getting through the bottle, not pure air, because the bottle is half-full/empty.) When you hear the sound of air coming in, you have either tilted the bottle, or you have got ALL of the extract in there.

Now, jump up, zip up, and fly for a few hours.

Keeping it in for the first 30 minutes is the biggest chore, and then you're home free. No bowel problems, 'cept maybe some lavender farts =D

Lasted all day, and now I received no sleep last night, either.

Cleaned the heck out of some things yesterday, and still wanted to do more, but I have a wife who is relatively drug-free, and she came to bed around 10:00PM.

So, I basically toss and turn all night, and now am ready to go hunting for more benz, and hoping that it's the same the next day as the previous (Oh, but never three times in a row!)

Thinking of getting a few more just to get me through the day (hoping they're there), and will try to shoot for a 100mg dose with, less water=more concentration, and the 100mg can always be "bumped" if you measure it all out correctly.

(Just to mention it, you know, I always get this "fiending"-type thing on propyl, like I've got to run to the liquid and sip some more every hour or so. Took all 250mg once, and then spent the rest of the day visiting 6 different pharmacies, NONE of which had Benz available (some were behind the closed pharmacy shelf). To make matters worse, the one pack I did find was already opened, used, and "glued" to make it look like its normal self, unused, on the shelf. Beer was my friend later that night after that.)

Lastly, if we could just have a Merck Index 14th edition so we can see how to isolate menthol from lavender oil and propylhexedrine, preferably without an acid/base extraction.

BUT, aren't the inhalers already freebase?

"Volatile" is how I've heard the freebase described.

So, if one were to do an A/B, can't we just soak those suckers in some xylene with a few shakes and then bubble or drip HCL in there with only prop coming out of solution?
 
It's finals week here at University and there appears to have been a run on the pharmaceutical stimulant supply. Before the first test had even started, prices had jumped two to three hundred percent for standard issue prescription amphetamine preparations. By today, the third day of exams, anyone who still has RX stimulants is holding onto them for personal use.

My exams happened to fall on the last three days of exams and my grades are generally pretty good so in my complacency I failed to procure any CNS stims stronger than coffee.

After a couple of days with next to no sleep, I'm dead tired but cannot afford to sleep for at least one more night. Fortunately, I remembered our old friend Benzedrex! I just wanted to report my personal method of preparation and brief comments about the efficacy of propylhexedrine as a late-night study aid, one that any University student in the States can get their hands on in a pinch.

Unfortunately, it's also allergy season where I am, and Benzedrex is in short supply. It took me 90 minutes driving around town visiting 5 pharmacies before I found it.

FYI: Wal-mart supercenters do not carry Benzedrex inhalers. Walgreen's is the only chain drugstore, in my area at least, that carries them.

The Method:

1. Crack open inhaler
2. Cut cotton into 5 or 6 small pieces
3. Put cotton pieces into a mortar (as in, mortar and pestle)
4. Pour 30-40 mL coca-cola into mortar
5. Set mortar on heating element in stovetop
6. Apply low heat (I used 1.5 on my dial that goes from 1-8)
7. Use pestle to mash cotton pieces into loose clumps of fiber
8. Stir occasionally, leave mortar on stove 20-30 minutes, or until liquid is hot to the touch (~100 degrees Fahrenheit)
9. Assemble Aeropress coffee maker as usual http://www.aerobie.com/Products/aeropress_story.htm
10. Pour contents of mortar into aeropress and press
11. Voila! You have now prepared a cheap, OTC alternative, CNS stimulant study aid in under 45 minutes using materials readily available in any serious student's home.

I needed a dopaminergic buzz to kick my mentally exhausted ass into gear for a night of brutal cramming, and I fucking well got it.

I only use CNS stimulants in times such as these, so consider me an experienced, non-tolerant user. For me, ~200-250 mg propylhexedrine administered in this way is functionally equivalent, as in, gives a cognitive drive equal to, around 25-30 mg of mixed amphetamine salts. There are fewer adrenergic activation related side effects; propylhexedrine is also cheaper than illicitly acquired Rx stims in terms of the efficacy/cost ratio (http://www.amazon.com/Benzedrex-Inhaler-Propylhexedrine-Nasal-Decongestant/dp/B000HY38OE) , especially considering the supply and demand disparity with respect to the latter during the times when a purely utilitarian user such as myself needs them.

Just my 2 cents. Gotta get back to philosophy of mind.
 
^ thanks for the info, fourtunetly i was able to get ahold of some IR amphetamines just before finals week started. still have about 20 mg left im savin for an all night box social this summer. That method is diffrent, wouldnt mind tryin it, just need to get a hold of that sweet lookin Aeropress, and a morter.
 
benzedrex availability in UK/US...

That sucks for both of us then.

Well seeing as the UK and Australia are usually happy to follow American foreign policy to the ends of the earth (and all the jolly consequences such overseas adventures inevitably entail :\ ) why on earth can't we synchronize our propylhexedrine policies with the always-right U.S. of A? 8o

(But you Americans can by all means keep all for yourself the rest of your highly successful "War-On-Drugs" strategies. ;) )


Hi there...As I'm about to reply to your comment, I saw that it was from 2008 lol.....6 years ago. Anyways, I'm in the US ---and was wondering if it is easier these days for you to get Benzedrex inhalers there in the UK? I had no problem here - I live in the US, Mississippi, and just ordered mine through Amazon.com. I was just gonna suggest for you to buy through there....but it's been so long, maybe you no longer partake in all that. :-) Have a great day! ~infoholic39
 
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