Not just letters, but numbers, too. I have experienced this, most recently, on 25D-NBOMe, and it's one thing that might lure me back to experience it (despite it's side effects, for me- any dose, but some dose-dependent... during I thought of it like I was a test pilot, going into a star, or astronaut of some kind other, justifying the certain nasty effects, as perhaps "gs"- ha.).
I can't quite explain it. I touched on it in my TR for the substance, which I took at 2.4 mg (stupid high)...
I guess I really can't explain it, but I find that especially certain phenethlamine psyches, 2C-D, DOC, and this 25D-NBOMe seem to pull me into reading, writing, observing all the ways I can observe (DOC in it's own unique way pulls me into reading more than any other compound I've ever tried). I become fascinated by letters. On a DOC experience, I felt drawn to create a new letter. It as like, my duty. Somehow, I know this is sort of delusional, I felt that that was what was wrong with things... a lack of an ability to communicate. Somehow, I felt, this one letter, if perfected, would be the missing link. Spent many hours in a note-book, to come up with something that resembled a swastika (with three radials/spokes instead of four). The 27th letter. I think it came after K (and then I wondered what sound it represent, but didn't get far). Still have the book around, somewhere.
Anyways, on 2C-D, written letters appeared on my body, like markings/tattoos of some nature. It was as if they were embedded into my genome- like they were naturally occurring, but designed. Like I was off of some assembly line. Not that it really seemed artificial- at all... for if I was, everything was. But that's how close to home the letters felt. They felt simultaneously... mystical, and angelic, and... and from home. As if I was just a child, under this veil, and I had just learned these. It was pre-school. Something harmonic. That I had just forgot. Like it was an entire semester of class, at school, that I was there for, but slept through/skipped... I felt unconscious. It had been there all along. That this was my first language. It felt powerful, primitive, basic, functional, under the radar- a natural language. blah blah blah. I would look at myself in the mirror, seeing these markings, barely visible but seemed like they could be even in sobriety. I would look at myself, away from the mirror, and the same symbols were in the same places. They did shine, in this state... sparkled. Like constellations.
I don't find tryptamine psychedelics, in my experience to access the same mode. Not the same.
But they activate an auditory language... mode... that phens don't in my experience. I found my voice strengthened during after certain tryptamine experienced (well, mushrooms and 4-AcO-DMT so far- AMT didn't do it from what I remember)... but I am very interested in language while on mushrooms, and forming new words. Also phens, but it's like different modes. Analog and digital, although I know that that analogy totally fails.
I know they both, often, with many, have a big language element, with people having "one liners" that make so much awesome sense coming to them during the trip, and it can enable writing, as amphetamines can, though in their own unique ways.
Something that kept coming to me, though, during 25D, was "where to fit all the tens?" which suggested some difficulty integrating... the tens. But I was actually talking about girls. It came out, out of reflection for two previous, or those previous "loves" that I couldn't discount. I had been holding one, or so, up high. But this was between the two, I think. Both "Tens" How to fit a ten in. Cryptic maybe. I may not know the extent of this! Nevermind right now.
But does anyone else find a special gravity with letters, numbers, and what might relate (I guess it does, all of it), on phens, especially? I have read one report of one fellow who took a good dose of 2C-D, and found that things were assigned number values. Sort of like numerology of sorts (but not exactly, just that things had number values, that may or may not have had a obvious basis for understanding why).
I guess everything comes alive, though.. but I have a particular interest in orders where we don't usually expect to find them (as sort of a hobby), and have plunged into the depths of words, letters, angles of letters, number, number correspondence + sum of totals. I also have a thing for the number 23, and as of late, it has been somewhat "less" of a part of my life, if I can say that (knowledge knows otherwise, though)... I haven't been quite as "obsessed"... not the right word... with it. During this experience, it also came alive, again, to me. Attention level.
I don't know. I don't expect much of this thread. Perhaps just sharing. But it definitely interests me, enough to where these effects of these compounds stress that there is definitely more to it. The experience with 25D-NBOMe, made me realize that it's possible, in the future, that someone will create some really, really neat drugs. Hopefully, without these side effects. But then again, I could explore more.
I can't quite explain it. I touched on it in my TR for the substance, which I took at 2.4 mg (stupid high)...
I guess I really can't explain it, but I find that especially certain phenethlamine psyches, 2C-D, DOC, and this 25D-NBOMe seem to pull me into reading, writing, observing all the ways I can observe (DOC in it's own unique way pulls me into reading more than any other compound I've ever tried). I become fascinated by letters. On a DOC experience, I felt drawn to create a new letter. It as like, my duty. Somehow, I know this is sort of delusional, I felt that that was what was wrong with things... a lack of an ability to communicate. Somehow, I felt, this one letter, if perfected, would be the missing link. Spent many hours in a note-book, to come up with something that resembled a swastika (with three radials/spokes instead of four). The 27th letter. I think it came after K (and then I wondered what sound it represent, but didn't get far). Still have the book around, somewhere.
Anyways, on 2C-D, written letters appeared on my body, like markings/tattoos of some nature. It was as if they were embedded into my genome- like they were naturally occurring, but designed. Like I was off of some assembly line. Not that it really seemed artificial- at all... for if I was, everything was. But that's how close to home the letters felt. They felt simultaneously... mystical, and angelic, and... and from home. As if I was just a child, under this veil, and I had just learned these. It was pre-school. Something harmonic. That I had just forgot. Like it was an entire semester of class, at school, that I was there for, but slept through/skipped... I felt unconscious. It had been there all along. That this was my first language. It felt powerful, primitive, basic, functional, under the radar- a natural language. blah blah blah. I would look at myself in the mirror, seeing these markings, barely visible but seemed like they could be even in sobriety. I would look at myself, away from the mirror, and the same symbols were in the same places. They did shine, in this state... sparkled. Like constellations.
I don't find tryptamine psychedelics, in my experience to access the same mode. Not the same.
But they activate an auditory language... mode... that phens don't in my experience. I found my voice strengthened during after certain tryptamine experienced (well, mushrooms and 4-AcO-DMT so far- AMT didn't do it from what I remember)... but I am very interested in language while on mushrooms, and forming new words. Also phens, but it's like different modes. Analog and digital, although I know that that analogy totally fails.
I know they both, often, with many, have a big language element, with people having "one liners" that make so much awesome sense coming to them during the trip, and it can enable writing, as amphetamines can, though in their own unique ways.
Something that kept coming to me, though, during 25D, was "where to fit all the tens?" which suggested some difficulty integrating... the tens. But I was actually talking about girls. It came out, out of reflection for two previous, or those previous "loves" that I couldn't discount. I had been holding one, or so, up high. But this was between the two, I think. Both "Tens" How to fit a ten in. Cryptic maybe. I may not know the extent of this! Nevermind right now.
But does anyone else find a special gravity with letters, numbers, and what might relate (I guess it does, all of it), on phens, especially? I have read one report of one fellow who took a good dose of 2C-D, and found that things were assigned number values. Sort of like numerology of sorts (but not exactly, just that things had number values, that may or may not have had a obvious basis for understanding why).
I guess everything comes alive, though.. but I have a particular interest in orders where we don't usually expect to find them (as sort of a hobby), and have plunged into the depths of words, letters, angles of letters, number, number correspondence + sum of totals. I also have a thing for the number 23, and as of late, it has been somewhat "less" of a part of my life, if I can say that (knowledge knows otherwise, though)... I haven't been quite as "obsessed"... not the right word... with it. During this experience, it also came alive, again, to me. Attention level.
I don't know. I don't expect much of this thread. Perhaps just sharing. But it definitely interests me, enough to where these effects of these compounds stress that there is definitely more to it. The experience with 25D-NBOMe, made me realize that it's possible, in the future, that someone will create some really, really neat drugs. Hopefully, without these side effects. But then again, I could explore more.
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