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LET'S TALK ABSINTHE! the clear headed drunk or is it?

nogood

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i just recently started drinking absinthe to be specific Lucid and as we all know absinthe is known for carrying a psychedelic chemical called thujone tho the amounts that are put into the bottles have been heavily regulated over the years except in the czech republic where there is no regulation they actually make a bottle called King of Spirits Gold which contains 100mg of thujone in a pint! anyway to the point anyone else ever tripped on absinthe or has found that when they are drunk on it they think more clearly than say being drunk off gin
 
I don't think it really works as well as you might expect. Even if there are slight effects it's hardly something you can 'trip' on. I might be wrong but I've read this from multiple sources.

I would love to be proved wrong so if anyone else can enlighten me please do.
 
when i drank absinthe all that happened was I. GOT. SHITFACED. and was very careful to take it slow too. i felt no expansive cerebral effects whatsoever. quite the opposite. one minute i was social and cheery, and the next i was crawling on all fours throwing up.
 
there is definitely a little something extra to the absinthe buzz versus typical booze, but i can't quite put my finger on what it is. i've never tripped on it or anything like that, but i have seen others get a little silly on absinthe a bit quicker than i'd expect them to versus drinking regular liquor. of course, i never tried any of that super-concentrated stuff.
 
A tv host in holland has tested it with an extraction of the stuff and he reported no effects until 5-6 hours after when he tripped his balls off
 
Thujone is not a psychedelic. It is a GABA-A and 5-HT3 antagonist.

The GABA-A antagonism likely accounts for the increase in lucidity that one experiences under the influence as GABA antagonists are typically stimulating in nature, a complete opposite to GABA agonists like alcohol itself (as the antagonist part suggests).

The 5-HT3 antagonism primarily causes a reduction in nausea, meaning you can drink more than usual and not feel sick - this imo is one of the reasons behind absinthe being seen as extremely strong and powerful, as it's easier to consume more alcohol without feeling bad, while trying to drink that much on its own will usually lead to you stopping a lot quicker.

The other reason absinthe maintains its reputation as such a powerful mix is simply due to the high alcohol content. All absinthe is > 45% alcohol content, many 70-80%+, as a result if you don't dilute it with water and drink it slowly as it is intended to be drank for the lucid effect, you'll get extraordinarily drunk very quickly.

I have plenty of experience with absinthe myself too and it's a wonderful drink, I can certainly see why many writers, poets and artists enjoyed it - the lucidity allows for a heightened clarity of the mind's eye, allowing imagery and ideas to flow very freely within. It's likely this is where myth about absinthe being hallucinogenic began, as artists and writers were expressing their inner thoughts under the influence, it's very easy to get the imagination and hallucinogenic visions mixed up when simply reading someone's account or looking at a piece of art.

Since absinthe is not a hallucinogen despite the myth this thread doesn't belong in PD, but if I were to move this elsewhere this would likely just be closed anyway as this is just another myth, and even worse than the "DMT has been proven to be released upon death" ones and such.

Check this out:
http://pubs.acs.org/doi/full/10.1021/jf703568f Interesting read if you're interested in Absinthe, explains how ethanol (alcohol) is primarily all that's responsible for the effects.

Thirteen samples of authentic absinthe dating from the preban era (i.e., prior to 1915) were analyzed for parameters that were hypothesized as contributing to the toxicity of the spirit, including naturally occurring herbal essences (thujone, pinocamphone, fenchone), methanol, higher alcohols, copper, and antimony. The total thujone content of preban absinthe was found to range between 0.5 and 48.3 mg/L, with an average concentration of 25.4 ± 20.3 mg/L and a median concentration of 33.3 mg/L. The authors conclude that the thujone concentration of preban absinthe was generally overestimated in the past. The analysis of postban (1915–1988) and modern commercial absinthes (2003–2006) showed that the encompassed thujone ranges of all absinthes are quite similar, disproving the supposition that a fundamental difference exists between preban and modern absinthes manufactured according to historical recipes. Analyses of pinocamphone, fenchone, base spirits, copper, and antimony were inconspicuous. All things considered, nothing besides ethanol was found in the absinthes that was able to explain the syndrome “absinthism”.

Based on what I said earlier I was initially going to close it, but then I remembered your second point just questioning the lucid experiences absinthe provides, those are very real and I suspect this is the mild effect of thujone, as this is less noticeable in absinthes with lower thujone/wormwood extract concentrations.

I'm going to move this over to Other Drugs now. OD team do as ye will, I don't think there's another forum that'd be more fitting, but it's up to you guys if you decide to keep it open or not :)

PD -> OD
 
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Yeah, I was bummed when I first tried it. I had heard all these stories about people tripping hard on it, etc.. Then I tried it and was pretty underwhelmed. It gives a certain buzz, different than just regular booze, but it's not like taking a hit of acid.. unfortunately. Hah.

I do like the whole ritual of drinking it though. It's pretty cool.
 
I agree it's not a hallucinogen, and that the reason most ppl get so messed up on it is because of the alcohol content, but i think it would be interesting to here peoples experiences on it, maybe move this to trip reports.
 
i actually didnt really know where to put it i apologize for that but i found absinthe a very interesting drunk i have heard that the way to trip on it is u have to consume it fast enough for the thujone to kick before the alcohol does but from what i know pure alcohol can hit the brain within 90 seconds of consumption any truth to that?
 
thujone is actually a major constituent of sage oil.

and yes, alcohol is very rapidly absorbed because it can cross the stomach lining easily.
 
yes i know sage oil contains 50% thujone depending on the time of season of course has anyone tried concentrated thujone?
 
my experience with was very philosophical for example i remember talking with a friend and some point he said dude uve lost ur mind and i responded "sometimes a lost mind isnt truely lost maybe they just took the glasses off" and then thought to myself WHOA WHERED THAT COME FROM hahaa
 
^ An old contact of mine wrote to me about his experience trying it, he described it as a very mild and almost relaxing stimulant. Said it wasn't quite a high on its own but it definitely produced some mild effects.

In my personal experience and from those of people I know, what you've been told is the wrong way to enjoy the thujone in absinthe, drinking too fast will just lead to you getting very drunk and the alcohol will immediately overpower the thujone and lead to an experience not really any different from alcohol alone. The trick I've found is to dilute it first with cold water as is tradition, then drink it slowly like wine for example, you'll slowly feel the effects of the alcohol kicking in, but what's this - suddenly something different! A strange lucidity and a different feeling to just your usual drink :)
 
so stick to the loosh and sip it like fine wine or scotch? now would buying that king of spirits gold be worth it as it is 185 bucks a pint at 70% alcohol?
 
I make absinthe very often. I have a few different recipes that I frequently use, each recipe has a unique flavor. I'm not a big drinker and now a days I rarely drink. But, when I do drink I occasionally break out the absinthe. Most of the times I am on LSD. The synergy is great between the absinthe and LSD. It completely changes the trip into a very lucid dreamy state, especially with the visuals. I love it at jam band shows and festivals. The absinthe sold in the USA will not have these effects. I favor the effects of absinthe over any other alcohol
 
Absinthe is not meant to be a drink to get shitfaced on on the regular, it's like an apertif/digestif type of deal that should accompany a good meal, or some good tobacco, or whatever.
(One can make their own absinthe pretty easily, by using wormwood plus other herbs for flavouring, steeping it in high proof alcohol, I believe. A superior quality product can be obvtained by re-distillation of this "cold" absinthe.)

Absinthe is normally served with a little ritual, where you pour a little into a special absinthe glass, and pour cold water over a sugar cube in a slotted spoon placed above, so as to dilute the drink and sweeten it.

Think about really good brandy, or whisky, not vodka.
 
I think the level of drunk you reach with drinking the green fairy is probably the closest to a 'trip' one can hope for from drinking alcohol. Quality tops quantity though.
 
Absinthe is not meant to be a drink to get shitfaced on on the regular, it's like an apertif/digestif type of deal that should accompany a good meal, or some good tobacco, or whatever.
(One can make their own absinthe pretty easily, by using wormwood plus other herbs for flavouring, steeping it in high proof alcohol, I believe. A superior quality product can be obvtained by re-distillation of this "cold" absinthe.)

Absinthe is normally served with a little ritual, where you pour a little into a special absinthe glass, and pour cold water over a sugar cube in a slotted spoon placed above, so as to dilute the drink and sweeten it.

Think about really good brandy, or whisky, not vodka.

Yes u speak of the loosh my bottle of Lucid came with its own perforated spoon and i did the loosh it was very enjoyable also made the whole room smell amazing! and ya i roll my own cigs using premier tubes and american spirit tobacco and those 2 together was very enjoyable and calming experience
 
i have feeling based on the historical readings ive done on absinthe that the whole seeing things and tripping is from the way everyone started crudely making it causing some people to go blind or lose their minds could that be why it got this reputation?
 
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