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Let's talk about eggs

On the subject of the quality of eggs you procure:

Pastured or free range chickens yield great eggs. They have great cooking quality, the yolk is deep orange, and they have been shown to have higher ratios of omega 3, more beta carotene, folic acid, and vitamins (B12, among others). I have read reports indicating up to 1/2 the cholesterol and less saturated fat. Plus, no antibiotics or hormones! Just think that the chicks from a foraging or pastured bird will yield a higher quality offspring than one which never moves and is sitting in its crap the whole time.

Eating eggs could actually be nutritious. I was talking to a pediatrician recently about eggs being, a long time ago, the traditional "first other food" of babies. The practice has persisted until about 15 years ago, when babies were beginning to react adversely to the eggs. She suspects that it is all the chemicals given to factory chickens, which had gained ground in the country around that time.

Still in the small provinces here, "native" eggs are twice the price as "white" factory eggs. The former are used medicinally, for convalescing people or those with respiratory ailments.

We have chickens in the yard and they lay just about anywhere, so it gets eaten round here during mornings.
 
Not per se MM. But it does become a consideration when you are thinking about those whose bodies have maintained the tendency of oxidizing cholesterol!
 
do you think it has to do with eating cholesterol though?

I have a suspicion it is mainly to do with diet (poor carb selection) and activity level. And genetics of course.

just in case you are not aware, cholesterol is the fundamental precursor for steroid formation. No cholesterol = no steroids in your body :\
 
However, because dietary cholesterol has a relatively minor effect on serum cholesterol, it's reasonable to surmise that sum cholesterol intake will have a relatively minor effect on endogenous steroidal syntheses.

ebola
 
He's saying that the cholesterol you eat doesn't actually have that much affect on your blood cholesterol levels, therefore the cholesterol you eat can't have that much affect on steroid production in the body.
 
lol THANKS neo ;) I got that ;)

THAT is the part that I do not understand though. It is surely logically possible, but as Ebola must know natural possibility is not entailed by logically possibility.

I am disagreeing with him that the consequent of the conditional that you so eloquently explained is entailed naturally by the antecedent.
 
A clear example illustrates the logic: one often sees ample serum cholesterol even in the complete absence of consumption of dietary cholesterol (indeed, vegans can still develop unhealthily high serum cholesterol), demonstrating that the body can synthesize vast amounts thereof from other precursors.

I was arguing in terms of empirical likelihood, not logical necessity.

ebola
 
soft boiled eggs with a piece of toast cut into strips (soldiers) then dipping the soldiers into the yolk and consume.

Nothing like being a kid again :D

My favourite is poached eggs on toast
 
soft boiled eggs with a piece of toast cut into strips (soldiers) then dipping the soldiers into the yolk and consume.

Nothing like being a kid again :D

My favourite is poached eggs on toast

Oh man that's a childhood favourite of mine too! I LUUUUUURVE eggs <3 Eggs (free rage) & dairy form most of my protein intake as I've been pretty slack when it comes to cooking beans, pulses etc at the moment. I occasionally throw a raw egg or two into a smoothie but the protein in the white is better absorbed when cooked (can provide links if needed). Hardboiled eggs make a great snack and keep for a few days if left in the shell and refrigerated.

Has anyone ever attempted onsen tamago?

As already mentioned you don't need to worry about the cholesterol in eggs if you're eating a reasonable amount as dietary cholesterol has been found to have little relation to blood cholesterol levels. I beleive saturated fat is of more concern there.

Edit: you shouldn't be avoiding carbs for breakfast completely n3o, especially with your marathon-running ways ;) =D
 
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n3o, thanks x 2:
1- i now eat a hardboiled egg in addition to my brekkie and lunch meals; and
2- every time i see this thread i get a funny brainbug "let's talk about eggs baby, let's talk about you and me...."
=D
 
^^ You're welcome ;) <3

Man, you shouldn't eat more then 4 eggs/3days. That's what my advanced biology teacher told us, don't ask me why though! It's unhealthy, that's for sure:p

Waaait a minute dude, you can't say "Don't do this, it's unhealthy" and then fully admit that you have no idea why it's unhealthy! :D
Don't just believe whatever a teacher tells you, especially if you don't fully understand it. Go out and research it fo' yoself man! Then come back and tell us if/why it's unhealthy :)
 
it's always worth researching for yourself, but you can't just read one site, you have to go through quite a few to make an informed and balanced choice. The latest on eggs is so very different from 5 years ago to 25 years ago. the constant break through in science is always changing the views and ideas and boundaries of things. worth while looking into a bit more, but using a wider variety of places and not just the sites you think you will agree with better.:)
 
Eggs are notoriously a healthy source of protein. If you have found that you like boiled eggs I think that is a great snack for you. However, don't over do it. You don't necessarily need an egg a day. Balance is key in any diet. Try cutting up a boiled egg in a salad (without the yolk) or make deviled eggs substituting the mayo with low-fat yogurt.
 
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