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Legalities of ethylphenidate and 5-IT in Australia

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Sparky1986

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Hi. Sorry if this isn't really appropriate for ADD but I'm not well versed in Australian law, so this could potentially need a bit of thought applied to it if there's an analogue law there like the US.

As the title suggests, I'm trying to find out whether the research chemicals ethylphenidate [ethyl 2-phenyl-2-piperidin-2-ylacetate] and 5-IT [5-(2-Aminopropyl)indole] are legal in Australia.

Thanks.
 
While I don't have the exact legislation it should be noted that Australia has quite probably the broadest and most far reaching drug analogue laws in the world even surpassing that of the US (for example in the US Mephjedrone and MDPV were sold as "bath salts" for a while in Australia there was absolutely no question that they were already illegal) with literally millions of chemicals automatically banned even before they are synthesized.
 
Ahh I didn't know this, that helps quite a bit. So ethylphenidate would 100% be banned as it's a direct analgoue of metyhlphendiate. 5-IT may be a little bit more difficult to deduce. I've now found this document that has the actual analgoue act - http://www.comlaw.gov.au/ComLaw/Leg...576040024B600/$file/CriminalCode1995_WD02.pdf - on page 504. Maybe someone with more chemistry knowledge than myself would be able to tell me if 5-(2-Aminopropyl)indole fits the critera?
 
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Ahh, I didn't read the subsection (1) bit of the analogue act, so when I saw methylphenidate listed as a controlled drug in another section of the document I posted I assumed the worst. Well, thanks for clarifying that Transform :-)

Still 5-IT to answer though. MDMA is in subsection (1) but I don't have the chem knowledge to determine whether the rules as to which modifications to the molecules make it a controlled drug apply to 5-IT. The molecules look similar -> 5-IT is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:5-IT_structure.png and MDMA is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:MDMA_(simple).svg. Anyone able to help?
 
Covered by this clause with respect to MDA I believe.
by the replacement of up to 2 carbocyclic or heterocyclic ring structures with different carbocyclic or heterocyclic ring structures;
Click to expand...
 
Woah woah woah, is 5-IT actually active? Do you know? I believe there was a discussion of such nitrogen-substituted MD(M)A derivatives on here a while back, but no one knew about any of these compounds being assayed.

Oh, also someone said something about nitrogen ring-substituted compounds of this class being abhorrently neurotoxic. I don't remember where or which ring it was though.
 
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