Legal, intense hallucinogen raises alarms

[Disclaimer: I have never done salvia.]

From everything I've read and heard about salvia, it seems that the overwhelming majority of experiences with it are frightening or otherwise highly unpleasant. Is the government going to criminalize something that's already turned plenty of people off to drugs?
 
All the extracts are illegal here in Aussieland. You can still get the leaf, although the amount you need to smoke to have any effect is just silly.

I suppose you could make the extract from the leaf, but honestly, I can't be arsed. I'd rather just get some tabs.
 
i hope salvia stays available here in arizona for at least another 2 weeks, cause i wanna try this stuff but i have to wait until i get paid lol.
 
I like how they make california out to be the place where it is becoming "popular" or whatever but in VA you can get salvia at almost any smoke shop. Yet its not sold to minors. I would just think that a newspaper should not talk shit about its own state. The media again wanting people to be prisoners of the war on drugs.
 
The DEA is monitoring salvia to decide whether it should be regulated or banned outright, and a California assemblyman introduced legislation to outlaw it after law enforcement agencies in Southern California reported increased use. The legislation was voted down in committee in March, but Assemblyman Anthony Adams, R-Hesperia (San Bernardino County), has pledged to bring it up again next year
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so thats how they work, as soon as people start to enjoy something they will make it illegal... gotcha



though I dont care, salvia is worthless to me.
 
Salvia not recreational? Shit! Me and my friends like to get a couple ounces of 40X extract and party 'til the...OK. I'm lying. I can't keep up this charade.

Salvia's great and all, but shit, I don't think it should be illegal. I'll do all the drugs you throw at me. But not salvia. There is a time and place for an experience that intense. And after coming down. 99.999% of people will say "Alright, enough of that for now!"
 
As a drug, it's usually just known as salvia but goes by a variety of other names, including "Sally D" and "magic mint."
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LOL, that made me laugh. Reminded me of the South Park ep 'Quest For Ratings':

They call it cough syrup, cough medicine, cold and flu remiedy. But behind closed doors at South Park Elementary it also has a street name. Hoochie, wombat juice, tigger yum yum.
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"Sally D" and "magic mint" hahahahhahahahahahaha its not like you gotta call your boy and be all descreet about it "yo man, you holdin that magic mint" lol

ive heard it called sage..and salvia. anything else just seems retarded
 
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LOL, that made me laugh. Reminded me of the South Park ep 'Quest For Ratings':
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LOL!! Haha that episode was awesome! God south park is great, one of the best shows out there!
 
Its a real shame

I credit Salvia with saving my life...saved me from a terrible suicidal depression and out of control drug use...it opened me up to spirituality and I guess you could say I found God because of what I saw and felt and heard....it made me WANT to be a better person....HOW CAN THAT BE A BAD THING?

Now I agree with regulation (ie not sold to anyone under 21, not in public, etc.)....I believe fully that ALL users should be well informed on the nature of the drug before using it themselves. Actually I feel so strongly about this that--about a year back--I typed up and printed a pamphlet with TRUE facts and "how-to-use safely and most effeciently" info about Salvia and went to all the headshops I could find in my city where I was living then--giving them each a stack of these pamphlets urging them that they be handed out to each person that comes in and buys the stuff.

I don't agree with headshops selling it in the first place, but they're going to anyway so I figured it best to at least attempt to educate these people buying it. I included the "S-A-L-V-I-A scale", dosage info, precautions, and also preparation (set and setting and all that).

I urge all of you who love and use Salvia to do something of the same nature in all your local headshops....EDUCATE! Use the government's/media's misinformation against them.

I've used Salvia as religious sacrament to my personal spirituality for years...its extreme: Dark and Light...but the nature of the effects experienced depend solely on the person who's using it...

PEACE my friends....
 
I've now taken the stuff - and it makes perfect sense that salvia will never become viewed as a serious social problem, especially compared to, say, LSD.
 
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All the extracts are illegal here in Aussieland. You can still get the leaf, although the amount you need to smoke to have any effect is just silly.
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I thought the leaf was also illegal? I would def make my own extract but I have never seen the leaf for sale.
 
It surprises me that Salvia is still legal in many parts of the US, not that it's a particularly harmful substance, but one that would be good ammo for a media-induced mass hysteria.
 
salvia is gonna stay legal. It's been that way forever and you never hear of "salvia-heads". Its just too weird and powerful of a drug. Even though its much different than DMT, i think that the same things keep certain people from doing it, and most people from doing it often. If NN-DMT has relatively low abuse potential (meaning, its not used ALL THAT MUCH cuz of its intensity) then Salvia is far down the "not really all that recreational" list.

Sally D" and "magic mint" hahahahhahahahahahaha its not like you gotta call your boy and be all descreet about it "yo man, you holdin that magic mint" lol
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ive read numerous discussions here on bluelight where it was referred to as "Sally D". And keep in mind this drug is illegal in some areas so the slang names are only natural.

I mean cmon if you're gonna bring that argument on, then (thank you for reminding me about that south park episode, i LOVED it cuz i was a dexhead back then) what about DXM? Certainly much more easy to get, much more dangerous, much more widespread. Its a fucking dissociative no weaker than ketamine (i dont mean mg for mg, although even comparing oral doses is not all that different) that is sold to ANYONE AT ALL in any CVS or other pharmacy. What is the deal with that? But no, Salvia is an actual threat. This article gave me diahrrea.

How bout Olney's Lesions? It supposedly occurs with all dissociates so most likely DXM causes it as well (unless theres some miraculous structural difference where your cognitive skills are not at all damaged). Its interesting cuz 1) when people do dissociatives they either do them ALOT
2) ive noticed that for me constant daily use of ketamine or dxm makes me MORE SHARP... strange huh. (i still havent touched dex in years)
 
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As far as I know houses are not yet illegal and I've heard them referred to as a "pad", a "hizzouse", and "shack". Where did this ridiculous notion come from that something needs to be illegal to have slang terms associated with it? It is ridiculous in part to us-us meaning drug users-because we know the actual meaning of the words. We know that when Buddha and beaner are listed amongst slang terms for cannabis that they are not one and the same. It is a similar scenario here (not exactly the same of course, but similar through the lack of exactness used by laymen). I would know exactly what someone meant if they said Sally D, but it's just not common.

Peace,
PL
 
A bit like Meow. Who'd abuse that? And if someone would choose to do so, would it be a loss?
I don't get it, but I don't get the people who "enforce the law" either.
I've literally heard a policeman state that he didn't give a fuck what I did or didn't do, but that he'd destroy me and my (or anybody's) life if his superior told him to do so. *shiverrrrrrrr*
 
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