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Legal Hemp has a Stigma, i want to break it.

To do or not too.

  • Yes

    Votes: 2 40.0%
  • No

    Votes: 1 20.0%
  • I dunno man

    Votes: 4 80.0%
  • Not worth it

    Votes: 1 20.0%

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    5

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According to Law Weed is illegal to grow, though some places tolerate it.
Hemp on the other hand, only needs a certificate 100% authentic Hemp.
CBD/ max 0.3 THC, one rule:

You have to give sent a notice to the landlord, municipality,
and maybe the cops too. Notice has nothing to do with asking permission,
its just obligated by Law you do. As it looks like Weed.

Last year, all 3 said no to my notice, which is technically is absurd.
Though the Cop said i allowed to grow 5 illegal weed plants.
That would get me evicted, i answered.
And he replied weird island politics a bridge away, and hung up.

So would you: do it or not ? Knowing the Law backing you.
Not the Landlord, Municipality and local Cops for sure also not.

Just provocation, whatever might happen technically will end for a Judge.
Who does follow Law, and should conclude i did nothing wrong.
At least i hope, or i will be out of my House for growin Hemp.
[Not Weed]

A farce.
 
In Québec (Canada) the provincial liberals gave all landlords a retrospective right to eviction as some pre-electoral gift, in vain as they lost anyway. Nonetheless, a delay of 3 months only was provided to manifest the intention to challenge it, while in fact it wasn't rare to observe that 1 month had passed before the news were even communicated to renters in some official manner. Which left 2 months to decide of a strategy and eventually organize...

Politicians from every single party were unanimous to vote the unjust law announced on May 5th 2015, only months before Justin Trudeau was a candidate at the federal elections - and won. That provincial law was finally adopted during the fall of this same year, completely banning home-grows with no exception for CBD-only genetics. A couple years later the CoViD-19 pandemic caused that same government run by 3 do¢tor$ to impose a safety zone of 2 meters to protect against a deadly virus, compared to 9 meters from any potential presence of neighbour noses, including one's own doors and windows in a private house.

You'd think such madness got relentlessly denounced by the Bloc Pot, instead its founder was sitting aside a "cool" abstentionnist/prohibitionnist do¢tor at TLMEP of the national french-speaking TV, and the crunchy detail about it was that they recorded this TV show just the next after the "4-20" of 2016 while Justin Trudeau had a selfie session in boxer shorts & gloves at the Gleason’s Gym of Brooklyn/N.Y. - celebrating his "victory" at the UNGA$$ onusian event after he sent Hilary Geller (of the previous Harper government...) as emissary to the UN for the preparations! Then the rest of it felt the same, starting with nomination of ex-cop Bill "G20" Blair as leader of the « Task Force » in charge of his "légaleezation". etc., etc. Now ask me if i liked it, not to mention the resulting outcomes which were (al)most predictable.

🫥

Today i'd say we got erased from reality.
 
@Egzoset "banning home-grows with no exception for CBD-only genetics".

So the odds are better here. A piece of my rental-contract mentions explicit.
Growing Cannabis as defined in the Opium-Law will leed to eviction.

The Law defines Fibre-Hemp as legal, max. 0.3 THC,
and a certificate of authenticity. Which you must keep in house.
Cant retrieve it but recall from last year.
A notification for planting is also obligatory.

While Hemp with THC is weird, its illegal by Law, but tolerated geographically !
65 km from here your allowed to grow 5 plant s in open air.
Not here. The Fibre-Hemp was ment to detoxify my soil.

My notice was denied, you can t deny a notice but. :ROFLMAO:
Love provocation.

While you can have fields of Opium/ Grain s/ Fruit s, without trouble.
Amazingly. Especially the Papaver, better image as Fibre-Hemp.
No restriction s, notification s, denial s.
 
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I dont think it is worth it personally. Unless you feel this hemp will provide you livelihood of some kind? In which case use your regular risk assessment process.

I do hear you though lol at a federal rest stop in montana I believe I pointed out to them they have a ton of hemp/weed growing right on the path they sent me down. Lol they examined it and said "Yea that sure is hemp alright" --- Ok I just dont want noone to get in trouble over this being federal property i thought i should tell you quietly before leaving.

I agree it seems a strange hill to die on unless you are making some serious quantities of hemp?
 
...looks like Weed.

Law enforcement would have been more complicated and expensive, at first, then the Farm Bill allowed CBD/Hemp which was covered in the onusian declaration of mid-December 2017 on CBD - and quite oddly enough if one dares search on Google for it will become apparent that this detail of history was erased from reality as well...

The Law defines Fibre-Hemp as legal...

The Farm Bill followed a year later, while in my country our politicians didn't fear defending the ridicule ban of genetics with no buzzing appeal... Another prohibitionist attitude denying the personal pleasure enjoying a modest home-grow on a private (even innaccessible...) balcony, just for the beauty (and smell late when the summer is over). Such ban is another example of fear relative to some victim-less crime, in fact a political urge to self-preserve public images in front of TV cameras; the justification about « Saving the Kids » is just more taboo-shield to silence criticism.

🥸
 
^They did delete that shit from history lol i kept wanting to cite it and coming up dry -- figured it was just my search engine skills, damn.

Yea there is no good reason on earth why you should not be allowed to do it. (that I can think of -- "someone may think its weed and rob you" is about worst I got outside of legal) and the odds on that are pretty low realistically.
 
probably can just buy some from a vendor for a lot cheaper... i see reviews of people buying ounces and QP's of cbd flower on you tube... then i don't know where you are, but the thc-a stuff is getting to be a lot cheaper from headshops and online vendors. some of that is considered hemp, but some of it i think is more potent... i don't know the specifics of hemp, cbd, and thc-a of where it's legal and everything, but i'd just think you could probably buy some for the same price it would cost to grow it and it's not worth it to challenge landlords/cops or whatever.
 
I can plug in some details but am not sure on legality. THC-A is a non psychoactive (precursor? prodrug?) at any rate when heated in converts directly into ol fashion THC. However due to it having a higher molar mass you will end up with 87% purity (or yield) however you wanna look at it.

I am in MI and right now .5 rosin carts are 2/22 so I have not done it personally but if I lived in an unfriendly state I would sure be looking into the legality alot harder.
 
probably can just buy some from a vendor for a lot cheaper... i see reviews of people buying ounces and QP's of cbd flower on you tube... then i don't know where you are, but the thc-a stuff is getting to be a lot cheaper from headshops and online vendors. some of that is considered hemp, but some of it i think is more potent... i don't know the specifics of hemp, cbd, and thc-a of where it's legal and everything, but i'd just think you could probably buy some for the same price it would cost to grow it and it's not worth it to challenge landlords/cops or whatever.
The goal was detoxification of the soil that imo is polluted with PAHs.
A fire not too long ago killed a 6 1/2 year old in-perfect shape Grape.
2 Berry plant s and almost my thornless evergreen Black-Berry.
Besides yellowing almost all plant s leaves.
The Grape went straight to Yellow, normal the got the purple faze. 1+1=2
So that would also be the aim in choosing a strain.

The do this, agriculture size. And it needs some extra work. A permit for it.
But its perfectly legal crop. As feed-stock, for fiber s and now detoxification.

A polluted area around Tata-Steel
https://www.dutchnews.nl/2022/02/public-prosecutor-starts-criminal-probe-into-tata-steel-pollution/
Hemp is a candidate for how too get the chemicals from the soil.

My Hemp would also go in the Rest-waste container ☣️, not the Green one.
Would wanna smoke toxin s, not me.
 
I dont think it is worth it personally. Unless you feel this hemp will provide you livelihood of some kind? In which case use your regular risk assessment process.

I do hear you though lol at a federal rest stop in montana I believe I pointed out to them they have a ton of hemp/weed growing right on the path they sent me down. Lol they examined it and said "Yea that sure is hemp alright" --- Ok I just dont want noone to get in trouble over this being federal property i thought i should tell you quietly before leaving.

I agree it seems a strange hill to die on unless you are making some serious quantities of hemp?
It grows about 30 km s from here, and a lot is grown in Friesland.
A Province up North, kinda Hemp started there as crop.

Making clothes but also floor filling for those keeping Rodent s.
And it s used as feed-stock and for the fiber, so its probably growing.
All over in the Netherlands.

We talking about a 7 x 5 meter area, and most is 'still' stoned.
Maybe 3 x 5 max, 15 square meter ? Whiny whimp s right.
And seed s seem als playing hard to get, though a Head-shop.
Might carry them.
 
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I would think yea -- itll look like a pot garden that is about the only concern other than legality which im in the US so I am not sure on the law.
 
..."someone may think its weed and rob you"...

Only if that someone is a burglar with wings, or has brought a ladder...

...when heated in converts directly into ol fashion THC.

Which defeats the Public Health principles behind true legalisation, e.g. perpetuating the socio-toxic effects of prohibitionnist attitudes even in "legal" environments, because doing so it's no longer dame Nature's precious gift but just another type of designer dope centered on intoxication alone.
 
Fair enough it is your risk to take. My concern is the further you isolate the further people will go thinking it is worth pursuit. (not if noone knows about it but that is tough).

"True legislation" could I get a definition of what you mean by that. (or what it objectively means I am unfamilliar?)

You are correct of course once it has been altered for higher THC content in anyway I suppose it is not exactly what dame nature handed out ---- but she can be a bitch so uff her. (lol sorry thats silly) --- I would say "designer dope" is a bit of a stretch though considering almost all concentrate you are dealing with THC/A and it only breaks down into THC. I mean in the same way that codeine could be considered "designer morphine" (which still isn't a perfect metaphor but ill leave it)
 
In Québec (Canada) the provincial liberals gave all landlords a retrospective right to eviction as some pre-electoral gift, in vain as they lost anyway. Nonetheless, a delay of 3 months only was provided to manifest the intention to challenge it, while in fact it wasn't rare to observe that 1 month had passed before the news were even communicated to renters in some official manner. Which left 2 months to decide of a strategy and eventually organize...

Politicians from every single party were unanimous to vote the unjust law announced on May 5th 2015, only months before Justin Trudeau was a candidate at the federal elections - and won. That provincial law was finally adopted during the fall of this same year, completely banning home-grows with no exception for CBD-only genetics. A couple years later the CoViD-19 pandemic caused that same government run by 3 do¢tor$ to impose a safety zone of 2 meters to protect against a deadly virus, compared to 9 meters from any potential presence of neighbour noses, including one's own doors and windows in a private house.

You'd think such madness got relentlessly denounced by the Bloc Pot, instead its founder was sitting aside a "cool" abstentionnist/prohibitionnist do¢tor at TLMEP of the national french-speaking TV, and the crunchy detail about it was that they recorded this TV show just the next after the "4-20" of 2016 while Justin Trudeau had a selfie session in boxer shorts & gloves at the Gleason’s Gym of Brooklyn/N.Y. - celebrating his "victory" at the UNGA$$ onusian event after he sent Hilary Geller (of the previous Harper government...) as emissary to the UN for the preparations! Then the rest of it felt the same, starting with nomination of ex-cop Bill "G20" Blair as leader of the « Task Force » in charge of his "légaleezation". etc., etc. Now ask me if i liked it, not to mention the resulting outcomes which were (al)most predictable.

🫥

Today i'd say we got erased from reality.
Probably the Canadian politic is just a bit like,
one of those funky Cypress Hill things.
Something you just can t understand.

Fuck even here officially the mayor is the one evicting.
Again presumably after a Judge looked into it.
Well that are two points i can t take for granted.
Every governmental organisation, especially the Cops.
Break the Law, give fuck bout protocol.

Then again getting caught selling Amphetamine,
guy had 1/ 2 Kg. in his house is tolerated.
My guess one Fibre Hemp and your homeless.

Glad our lax approach towards that Virus.
Didn t even get it was at the places most risky.
 
"True legislation" could I get a definition of what you mean by that. (or what it objectively means I am unfamilliar?)

My personal interpretation of « legalisation » always been one which included honesty & mutual respect as its primary objectives, while those officially announced by Canada's Health minister Jane Philpott at UNGA$$ 2016 were defined through those 3 main strategies:

#1) Terminate access to kids of minor age
#2) Remove in¢entive$ for criminal traffi¢
#3) Promote safety for citizens & society

Her sweet words evoked concepts such as compassion, comprehension and even collaboration expressed via an elevated respect of human rights. Euh... Instead cannabis and its enthousiast consumers were just pushed further into stigmatization if not plain clande$tinity actually denying all hopes of any lifestyle improvement - e.g. a most fertile mercantile sub-culture specially targeting our legally-vulnerable youth, now aged up to 21 in my canuck sacrificed alienating province!

Law enforcement advocated in favour of civil forfeiting asset procedures, abstentionnist-addi¢tionni$ts were given public ¢a$h to "help" better, with cessationist "addiction therapy"! aHummm... All while we still ain't seen a clue of any "firm" scientific foundation, much less notions of sound « Harm Reduction » to match. M'well, i guess this is what prohibitionnist "profe$$ionals" know best about « upstream prevention », not to mention their annual propaganda every Halloween, right?...

:bat:

Briefly put, « légaleezation » tainted by victorian-age bigotry is still quite alive and well. Our state monopoly the SQdC filifies the noble plant routinely by imposing 3 main genetics excluding THC/CBD ratios in the 2:1/3:1/4:1 groups - a man-made catastrophy featured with evil purposes if you ask me.

Want to hear of "appropriate", "proportionate" justice? It ain't too easy with news makers now fully turned into editoriali$ts whenever it comes to Marie Wanna, yanno, but sometimes they can't hold themselves if it's juicy enough, for example:

Un homme condamné à payer plus de 100 000 $ pour avoir fumé du cannabis chez lui (2023-Dec-28)​

Un propriétaire condamné à payer 100 000$ pour avoir fumé du cannabis chez lui (2023-Dec-30)​

The short story is that a man named Mohammed Mehdi Mokaddem acquired one cozy condo at Île-des-Soeurs/Mtl and got entrenched into some very expensive trouble after his new nosy neighbours detected a "suspicious smell"; no need to tell me you never heard of it and much less via some english media, of course... In any case, please pay close attention to the timing as that's how "information" kind of works around here, idem about the myclobunatil scandal they've almost erased as well unless one already knows about the specifics:

Canadians not told about banned pesticide found in medical pot supply (2016-Dec-29)​

Bye bye « shared responsibility », quite clearly the $pe¢iali$ts and guru$ took over long long before the ellu$ive "in¢idental" promise of Justin Trudeau could finally become effective, on October 18, 2018 exactly. ... I mean, in theoretical terms considering that production & distribution weren't exactly among the elite$ pra¢ti¢al prioritie$, i.e. over a year after the liberal's deadline was mentioned at the UNGA$$ 2016 show:


Canada speaks up for legal cannabis at the UN (2016-Apr-20)​

In The Name Of Children. 🤥
 
I can plug in some details but am not sure on legality. THC-A is a non psychoactive (precursor? prodrug?) at any rate when heated in converts directly into ol fashion THC. However due to it having a higher molar mass you will end up with 87% purity (or yield) however you wanna look at it.

I am in MI and right now .5 rosin carts are 2/22 so I have not done it personally but if I lived in an unfriendly state I would sure be looking into the legality alot harder.
My intention and the reason is, like anything from my garden.
'Poinsoinous-non-consumeables', a few burned PUR plates.
By having Hemp seek em and have absorb/ takes 4 season s.
After which i gonna 'Kill em All'. After they did their job.
Its probably even harder, to get the specific seeds i need.



All agriculture ones say sold out, but they sell minimums of 1000 seeds.
I need a Headshop, former growshop or CBD specialist. For seeds.

Detoxing, "The next year, a group in Hawaii demonstrated the ability of hemp plants to remove two polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons (PAHs), chrysene and benzo[a]pyrene, from the soil. In 2004, a Bulgarian team planted hemp at various distances from Non-Ferrous Metal Works near Plovdiv. They found that the plants acted as bioaccumulators that sucked up the heavy metals. The highest heavy-metal concentrations were found in the roots, followed by the stems, leaves, and seeds."

PubMed also has a nice one on it:
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/12655808/
Conquer the world, or let the world get Cancer

Other source:
https://nationalhempassociation.org/how-industrial-hemp-helps-remediate-soil-the-basic-facts/

Worth it ? Hemp, Kenaf, Jute and Flax all fibres plants are detoxifier s.
Jute and Flax/ Line also grow here, so there are option s. Finding the Hemp,
strain for detox was harder. Found one last year. A Ukranian or Russian strain.
What was its name ? Phyto-remediation is the name of the game, the aim.

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9864374/

Allowed strains in NL. in 2025, on paper at least :rolleyes:
  • Alive SK, AMX, Arizona dream, Armanca, Austa SK, Asso, Auto power 1
  • Balaton, Beniko, Bialobrzeskie
  • Cannakomp, Carma, Carmagnola, Carmaleonte, CFX-2, Chamaeleon, Codimono, CRS-1, CS
  • Dacia Secuieni, Delta-405, Delta-Ilosa, Dioica 88, Djumbo 20
  • Earlina 8 FC, Eletta Campana, Enectaliana, Enectarol, Epsilon 68, Estica
  • Fedora 17, Felice, Felina 32, Felina 34, Felsinea (nieuw), Fenojoy (nieuw), Fenoqueen (nieuw), Férimon, Fibranova, Fibrante, Fibrimon 56 (nieuw), Fibrol, Fibror 79, Finola, Finola2, Fiona, Futura 75, Futura 83
  • Glecia, Gliana, Glyana
  • Helena, Henola
  • Ivory
  • KC Bonusz, KC Dora, KC Virtus, KC Zuzana, KCA Borana, Kompolti, Kompolti Hibrid TC
  • Lipko, Loja, Lovrin 110
  • Mara 21, Marcello, Marideea (nieuw), Marina, Markant, Matrix, MGC 1013, Midwest (nieuw), Mietko, Mona 16, Monoica, Morning glory, Muka 76
  • Nashinoïde 15, Nordria 3, Northwest
  • OGK, Olivia, Orion 33, Ostara 9
  • Pain killer
  • Rajan, Ratza, Rodnik
  • Santhica 23, Santhica 27, Santhica 70, Secuieni Jubileu, Silvana, Sofia, Strawberry H, Strawberry K, Succesiv
  • Teodora, Tiborszallasi, Tisza, Troyanka I, Tygra
  • Uniko B, Uso-31
  • Villanova
  • Western Cherry, Wielkopolskie, Wojko
  • Zenit

 
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