Leftist Discussion Thread

[Somerandomdude]

Also spacejunk. Re: not being able to reason with unreasonable people, thus justifying attacking them; you do realise that you are then providing justification for yourself being attacked, because there are certainly plenty on the right who would find you unreasonable, because it's of course a subjective thing.

Not so nice when you think of yourself being attacked for your views is it? Everyone deserves the right to speak freely and the laws protection (although I know you didn't explicitly dispute the fact that what Antifa did to spencer was illegal)

Spencer is repugnant. But it is far better to expose him in debate and show him as the idiot he is, rather than stoop lower than him by sucker punching him. I mean he was talking to the camera and got sucker punched. If he was yelling abuse at people or being physical himself it is different.

The logical and practical conclusion of the line of thinking spacejunk espoused is the decent of political discourse into violent street brawling (at best) and quite possibly armed guerilla warfare. This way of thinking could literally turn stable democracies (the best and most peaceful in history) into shit holes.

Crazy. But typical of humans to not know how good they have it, and to abhor reason in favour of our crude tribal instincts. We all do. Unfortunately this period of history will probably be noted as the time we "almost got it right" but fucked it up in our typical fashion.

 

[Escher's Waterfall]

This post shows your unbelievable disconnect from reality.

Yes there is atrocious stuff in the Bible, but how many Jews interpret it literally? Any Jews gone on massacres of non-Jews lately?

Does the cave of the patriarchs massacre count?

 

[Soso78]

He said "lately" and you go back nearly 25 years??
Your kind of proving his point for him.

 

[tathra]

Simplistic? Care to point out where it falls short? But let me guess, you wish to assign the label of fascist to anyone who disagrees with your far left rhetoric?

stopped reading there. that you think everyone who disagrees with you is a far leftist (honestly surprised you didnt call him an "SJW") shows just how far off into the extremes you are. and sorry snowflake, but your belief that muslism are coming to destroy your society is proof that you're a xenophobe bigot. thats just how words work.

 

[Escher's Waterfall]

He said "lately" and you go back nearly 25 years??
Your kind of proving his point for him.

Okay, what about the Duma village attack? That's 2015.

 

[hotgirls.jpg.exe]

Btw, you literally encapsulated everything retarded about the left in one post. No rebuttal of my arguments, just pull the racist card.

Oh look at you thinking you're doing rational & reasonable debate, how cute. Go on, call me retarded again, ad hominem attacks are a surefire way to win you the argument (aware of the irony so no need to point it out though you will anyway). It's pointless debating with people like you, you're not interested in actually listening to what people have to say. Applying a veneer of civility to arguments filled with bile doesn't make them any less prejudiced and hateful and all I'm seeing from you is repetitive invective about how Muslims are the devil incarnate out to destroy everything we hold dear. Lock your wives and children up, the Muslims are coming!! Gimme a break.

The other I saw a woman holding a banner saying "better rapists than racists" Id agree if it was that stupid bitch being raped but it wouldn't be. So she should keep that nonsence to herself.

You're a disgrace. Delete your account

 

[Soso78]

Scraping the bottom of the barrel now esch if that's the best you can come up with. An arson attack with 3 dead?
You was trying to imply not only islam that does terrible things and this is what you come up with,
Something 25 years old and a petrol bomb attack.
Doesn't really compare to modern day Islamic extremists does it?

 

[Soso78]

What was disgraceful about that Hot girl?
I thought it was disgraceful Of her to say "better rapists than racists"
Do you agree with her?

Delete my account? Ok I'll do that right away.

 

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Id agree if it was that stupid bitch being raped

Id agree if it was that stupid bitch being raped

Id agree if it was that stupid bitch being raped

You are clearly a troll if you're going to pretend like you don't understand this was an utterly repugnant thing to say, but I rather expect you're going to come back at me now with some nonsense about Islam having rape enshrined in the Qur'an or something

 

[Escher's Waterfall]

Scraping the bottom of the barrel now esch if that's the best you can come up with. An arson attack with 3 dead?

You asked for if any Jews had killed non-Jews lately.

If burning a toddler to death doesn't count, maybe you should have been more specific, since right now it appears that you're moving the goalposts.

 

[tathra]

there have been more jewish terorrists in the US than muslim, and christian terrorism is still alive and well to this day. your cherry picking and denial of reality only serves to underscore your bigotry.

 

[Soso78]

Hot girl so it was ok for her to say she would rather women be raped by immigrants than have racist people say the don't want immigrants?
That's fucked up, not all racists hurt people but all rapists do. Can't you see why it wrong for her to say that? It wouldn't be get being raped ffs

Esch I never said there aren't cases of Jews carrying out terror attacks you clown Im saying no other religion comes close to islam for terrorism now.
I'm not moving goalposts your twisting things.

Tathra how am I cherry picking?

I'm ok with you saying I'm a bigot, I prob am a bit, also a bit racist, sexist, xenophobic ,homophobic and Prob many other things too at least I'm honest about it.

 

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Hot girl so it was ok for her to say she would rather women be raped by immigrants than have racist people say the don't want immigrants?
That's fucked up, not all racists hurt people but all rapists do. Can't you see why it wrong for her to say that? It wouldn't be get being raped ffs

That's not what we're talking about here so stop dodging the issue. You cannot pretend to care about sexual violence in the same breath as saying what you did. I just love how so many people suddenly find they give a shit about misogyny and sexual violence when it oh so coincidentally happens to be a chance to be a flaming racist. You said something utterly foul, own it. Trying to make it look like *I'm* the one condoning rape is not convincing anyone.

 

[Soso78]

I do own it!
I said it!
I'd rather that stupid bitch get raped than anyone else, if she ok with it tgat up to her.
I do care about sexual violence, that's why I was so pissed off when i saw a woman saying she ok with allowing rapists in to the country rather than to be seen as racist.

what's your views on a woman holding a banner saying " rather rapists than racists"
Firstly what do you take it to mean and secondly what's your view on it.

 

[tathra]

Tathra how am I cherry picking?

I thought that was made pretty clear when i pointed out that there are plenty of terrorists that aren't muslim, yet you're acting like Muslims are the only ones capable of violence and that Muslims are more dangerous than any other extremists. That's the definition of cherry picking. Followers of any specific religion are not a problem, extremists of any type no matter what excuse they use to justify their bullshit are.

 

[Soso78]

Just to be clear tathra, that's not cherry picking. Cherry picking is picking out specific cases or events to prove a point. Exactly what Escher was doing when bringing up the two cases of Jewish terrorism. I never cherry picked anything.

Explain to me where I said muslims are the only ones capable of violence, it's unbeleivable how you twist things and in this case completely fabricate things to use against me.
Show me where I said muslims are the only ones capable of violence!

Muslim extremist/terrorists pose more of a threat than any other form of extremist/terrorist. They have killed more in recent years tgan any other religion.

 

[Jabberwocky]

Muslim extemists have killed more than other religions for the last 1400 years.

 

[tathra]

Just to be clear tathra, that's not cherry picking. Cherry picking is picking out specific cases or events to prove a point.

cherry picking is where you selectively choose your evidence to support your biased and false position while ignoring everything that runs counter to it. you know, exactly what you're doing.


i'd like to post this somewhere but dont really feel like starting a new thread, so i guess this is the most appropriate place to put it. its a look at the dominionists' plot to overthrow the US government and replace it with a christian theocracy from one of the poor kids that was brainwashed into their plot from a young age. both the takeover of the GOP by the american taliban, sorry, "tea party", and getting somebody like pence into the presidency have been plans in the works for decades. scary shit. these extremist nutbags have been too successful in their plot to overthrow my constitutional form of government, but thankfully the courts are starting to come to their senses and fight back against all the unconstitutional nonsense that has been going on for decades.

 

[Soso78]

Never mind all that bollox tathra!
Tell me when I said Muslims are the only ones capable of violence.

What cases did I cherry pick?
I didn't mention a SINGLE case never mind cherry pick any.

 

[tathra]

you need me to say it again? how many times does it need to be said before you'll accept it? i suspect no matter how many times i say it, you'll continue to deny it. thats how sophistry works, after all. come back when you're willing to debate in good faith, until then i'm not going to waste any more time with you.