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Cocaine Le Junk's Cocaine Purification Megathread v. The Final Word
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Le Junk
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pseudointellectual said:
Collect the dissolved cocaine hcl in a 9 inch glass Pyrex pie plate. With a normal blow dryer, carefully blow dry the water down until most of it's evaporated. Don't get to close as the water may want to splash out at times (recommend doing it from about 12 inches away from the dish). Once the water portion has evaporated off, you'll notice the consistency change to more of an oil. At this point, continue to blow dry, but switch to cold. Once it's completely down to just an oil, put away the blow dryer and simply use your cleaned index finger to keep running the oil around and around in circles. After awhile (be patient....3-5 minutes or so, maybe a lil' longer), all of a sudden it will turn into a rock hard white residue. This is your dried cocaine hcl. Once this starts to happen, continue with your index finger, but at a very light touch until all of the cocaine is dried. Once this happens, wipe your index finger on the side of the plate or give yourself a coutesy "numbie".
Pour out any flakes that came loose during this initial drying and onto a ceramic plate.Now, take the blow dryer and place the setting on COLD. Blow dry on cold up close on the entire plate for about 5 minutes just to make sure what's underneath the top layer is completely dry. Make sure the dryer is on cold and not hot. After about 5 minutes or so of final drying, take a very sharp razor blade and start scraping up your newly cleaned, and much aesthetically improved cocaine from the plate. It's best to work from the outside in until your finished. Your blow will be very, very crytalline looking, so enjoy the looks, and hopefully the buzz a little better too!
Le Junk
Something more about the A/B prosses swim has found out.
invest in a descent electronic ph meter.
while basifying if you can tolarate some % of cocaine lost you cant purify the contents much much better.
What i mean is this, during the A/B process cocaine WILL be lost. Why?
For starters, if there are basable cuts that are stronger bases than cocaine (i.e lidocaine etc) they will fully dissociate (become freebase) at ph's lower than that of cocaine, for excample 50% of lidocaine will be base at ph 8.1 but at that ph 34% of cocaine will also be base and it if we are unlucky it will stick to the rod just as lidocaine and be lost.
secondly some crystals wont have the proper size and will remain in suspention and could get through the filter.
lastly if you want to reduce basable cuts like cafeine, ampetamine, ephedrine etc you sould stop adding ammonia at ph 10 or so. At that point 95% of cocaine will be base but only 50% of amphetamine will be. So you will lose some cocaine true but you will loose alot of ampetamine also...
btw the A/B process is a fucked up mess god dammit
invest in a descent electronic ph meter.
while basifying if you can tolarate some % of cocaine lost you cant purify the contents much much better.
What i mean is this, during the A/B process cocaine WILL be lost. Why?
For starters, if there are basable cuts that are stronger bases than cocaine (i.e lidocaine etc) they will fully dissociate (become freebase) at ph's lower than that of cocaine, for excample 50% of lidocaine will be base at ph 8.1 but at that ph 34% of cocaine will also be base and it if we are unlucky it will stick to the rod just as lidocaine and be lost.
secondly some crystals wont have the proper size and will remain in suspention and could get through the filter.
lastly if you want to reduce basable cuts like cafeine, ampetamine, ephedrine etc you sould stop adding ammonia at ph 10 or so. At that point 95% of cocaine will be base but only 50% of amphetamine will be. So you will lose some cocaine true but you will loose alot of ampetamine also...
btw the A/B process is a fucked up mess god dammit
would Le Junk's method work to clean meth?
BigTrancer posted "Renegade's Amphetamine FAQ" which cites this process to clean amphetamine:
19. HOW CAN I PURIFY MY SPEED?
There are a few different methods for purifying amphetamine, but one of the simplest and best ways to do this is with a dual solvent re-crystallisation. If you plan to do this however, be prepared for a LARGE reduction in volume. Keep in mind however the stuff you separate out isn't really any good to you anyway. Consider the fact that most street speed is less than 15% pure, which means the gram you just bought has about less than 150mg of active content. If done extremely carefully you won't lose much of the actual speed.
Re-crystallisation is based on the different saturation levels of hot and cold solvent. A saturated solution is one which has the maximum amount of solute dissolved in it. The saturation level of any given solvent rises and falls with the temperature. Put simply, when a solvent is heated it can dissolve a larger volume of solute, and as it cools and the saturation level drops, excess solute will form into crystals and sink to the bottom.
A simple purification can be done using a single solvent. Add hot solvent to the amphetamine in small amounts until it is all dissolved. Anything that will not dissolve is adulterant and should be filtered out using coffee filters or filter paper (mositen filters first to prevent them soaking up solution). Next, allow the solution to cool slowly to room temperature, then place it in the fridge and allow it to cool further. Once it has cooled in the fridge filter the crystals out and allow them to dry.
It is worth noting that some adulterant may also be soluble and form its own crystals in the process, so what you have at the end may not necessarily be pure amphetamine. This is why a dual solvent re-crystallisation is preferred.
A dual solvent re-crystallisation works by using a second solvent to dissolve many of the impurities, but that the drug itself is not soluble in. The second solvent also acts as a cleaning agent for the new crystals being formed.
In the case of amphetamines the 2 best liquids to use are acetone and alcohol. Acetone is a component of paint thinner (and nail polish remover) and can be bought from hardware stores or art supply stores. Alcohol can be obtained from hardware stores or liquor stores. Acetone is used as the 'mother' liquid, amphetamine is insoluble in acetone but most of the crap used to cut it is.
So the procedure: Put your speed into a flask, beaker or some other container you can heat on a stove (note: use a stove without a naked flame, as these volatile organic chemicals produce explosive vapours). Pour acetone into the container so that the speed is completely submerged in it with a centimetre or 2 of excess liquid and swish it around to dissolve any soluble impurities. Next gently heat the acetone until it boils, and then take it off the heat. Now slowly add (with an eyedropper or pipette) just enough alcohol for all the speed to dissolve - stirring gently until the speed dissolves. If you add too much alcohol you won't get as high a yield as possible so don't add too much. Anything that doesn't dissolve is adulterant and should be separated out by filtration: use 2 coffee filters in a funnel to filter the solution, then cover it so a little air can escape and leave to cool to room temperature. Once it has cooled down you should notice crystals starting to form. Put the container in the fridge, and then the freezer to encourage more crystals to form (i.e., increasing the yield). The slower the solution cools, the larger the dry crystals will be. Once the solution has been freezer cooled, filter the crystals out with some coffee filters, then wash the filtered out solid in the funnel with a few drops of alcohol and allow to dry. Voila, you have pure speed. Save the acetone, it can be reused.
Since this process uses acetone, would Le Junk's method--or something similar--work to clean meth? Suffice it to say, I'm unlearned in this area....
BigTrancer posted "Renegade's Amphetamine FAQ" which cites this process to clean amphetamine:
19. HOW CAN I PURIFY MY SPEED?
There are a few different methods for purifying amphetamine, but one of the simplest and best ways to do this is with a dual solvent re-crystallisation. If you plan to do this however, be prepared for a LARGE reduction in volume. Keep in mind however the stuff you separate out isn't really any good to you anyway. Consider the fact that most street speed is less than 15% pure, which means the gram you just bought has about less than 150mg of active content. If done extremely carefully you won't lose much of the actual speed.
Re-crystallisation is based on the different saturation levels of hot and cold solvent. A saturated solution is one which has the maximum amount of solute dissolved in it. The saturation level of any given solvent rises and falls with the temperature. Put simply, when a solvent is heated it can dissolve a larger volume of solute, and as it cools and the saturation level drops, excess solute will form into crystals and sink to the bottom.
A simple purification can be done using a single solvent. Add hot solvent to the amphetamine in small amounts until it is all dissolved. Anything that will not dissolve is adulterant and should be filtered out using coffee filters or filter paper (mositen filters first to prevent them soaking up solution). Next, allow the solution to cool slowly to room temperature, then place it in the fridge and allow it to cool further. Once it has cooled in the fridge filter the crystals out and allow them to dry.
It is worth noting that some adulterant may also be soluble and form its own crystals in the process, so what you have at the end may not necessarily be pure amphetamine. This is why a dual solvent re-crystallisation is preferred.
A dual solvent re-crystallisation works by using a second solvent to dissolve many of the impurities, but that the drug itself is not soluble in. The second solvent also acts as a cleaning agent for the new crystals being formed.
In the case of amphetamines the 2 best liquids to use are acetone and alcohol. Acetone is a component of paint thinner (and nail polish remover) and can be bought from hardware stores or art supply stores. Alcohol can be obtained from hardware stores or liquor stores. Acetone is used as the 'mother' liquid, amphetamine is insoluble in acetone but most of the crap used to cut it is.
So the procedure: Put your speed into a flask, beaker or some other container you can heat on a stove (note: use a stove without a naked flame, as these volatile organic chemicals produce explosive vapours). Pour acetone into the container so that the speed is completely submerged in it with a centimetre or 2 of excess liquid and swish it around to dissolve any soluble impurities. Next gently heat the acetone until it boils, and then take it off the heat. Now slowly add (with an eyedropper or pipette) just enough alcohol for all the speed to dissolve - stirring gently until the speed dissolves. If you add too much alcohol you won't get as high a yield as possible so don't add too much. Anything that doesn't dissolve is adulterant and should be separated out by filtration: use 2 coffee filters in a funnel to filter the solution, then cover it so a little air can escape and leave to cool to room temperature. Once it has cooled down you should notice crystals starting to form. Put the container in the fridge, and then the freezer to encourage more crystals to form (i.e., increasing the yield). The slower the solution cools, the larger the dry crystals will be. Once the solution has been freezer cooled, filter the crystals out with some coffee filters, then wash the filtered out solid in the funnel with a few drops of alcohol and allow to dry. Voila, you have pure speed. Save the acetone, it can be reused.
Since this process uses acetone, would Le Junk's method--or something similar--work to clean meth? Suffice it to say, I'm unlearned in this area....
voltonmic:
that procedure presumes there are no cuts with the same solvation properties as aphetamines (or actually any short of drug that crystalizes).
for excample, if your amphetamine hcl is cut with say procaine the crystals (if large) will contain impurities that get traped while the crystal structure forms.
this procedure will indeed produce cleaner crystals if you make shure first that you remove most impurities
that procedure presumes there are no cuts with the same solvation properties as aphetamines (or actually any short of drug that crystalizes).
for excample, if your amphetamine hcl is cut with say procaine the crystals (if large) will contain impurities that get traped while the crystal structure forms.
this procedure will indeed produce cleaner crystals if you make shure first that you remove most impurities
Hi everyone,
I've found this thread through Google by searching for "purify cocaine". It was the very first link in the results page, so I guess that mighty Google agrees with you about the usefulness of your method Perhaps some of their employees are using it too? :D
Anyway, I'm very interested in this. But I'm a novice and have a lot of questions.
I'm thinking of ordering a test kit from the guys at EZtest. Do you have any experience with them? Are they reliable? They sell something called "EZ Test White" that supposedly tests the purity of coke and is not fooled by the presence of lidocaine, procaine, etc. Should I trust that?
They also sell Mandelin tests, and Marquis tests. Will those reliably detect the presence of amphetamines and methamphetamines in coke?
I want to make sure that the stuff I buy on the street doesn't contain any of that. But from what I've read, it seems that purity can be as low as 20% !! Is that true? Is the situation that bad, really ??
I live in Seville (Spain, Europe). Are there differences in the quality of the drug here compared to the USA?
There is an organization here called "Energy Control". They offer a free service in which they regularly test the street drugs that people send to them. They use a technique called Thin Layer Chromatography and have found, among others, the following substances in what dealers sell as "cocaine":
- benzocaine
- procaine
- lidocaine
- caffeine
- paracetamol
I'm most worried about paracetamol. They say it can be toxic in high doses and can cause liver damage.
Will acetone wash remove paracetamol? What about the other substances?
PS: Many, many thanks for all the great info that you're sharing in this forum. I really appreciate it!
EDIT: Oops, I forgot to include an image that I've seen in other forums. It seems trustworthy. Can anybody confirm that the info is reliable?
Best Regards.
I've found this thread through Google by searching for "purify cocaine". It was the very first link in the results page, so I guess that mighty Google agrees with you about the usefulness of your method
Perhaps some of their employees are using it too? :D Anyway, I'm very interested in this. But I'm a novice and have a lot of questions.
I'm thinking of ordering a test kit from the guys at EZtest. Do you have any experience with them? Are they reliable? They sell something called "EZ Test White" that supposedly tests the purity of coke and is not fooled by the presence of lidocaine, procaine, etc. Should I trust that?
They also sell Mandelin tests, and Marquis tests. Will those reliably detect the presence of amphetamines and methamphetamines in coke?
I want to make sure that the stuff I buy on the street doesn't contain any of that. But from what I've read, it seems that purity can be as low as 20% !! Is that true? Is the situation that bad, really ??
I live in Seville (Spain, Europe). Are there differences in the quality of the drug here compared to the USA?
There is an organization here called "Energy Control". They offer a free service in which they regularly test the street drugs that people send to them. They use a technique called Thin Layer Chromatography and have found, among others, the following substances in what dealers sell as "cocaine":
- benzocaine
- procaine
- lidocaine
- caffeine
- paracetamol
I'm most worried about paracetamol. They say it can be toxic in high doses and can cause liver damage.
Will acetone wash remove paracetamol? What about the other substances?
PS: Many, many thanks for all the great info that you're sharing in this forum. I really appreciate it!
EDIT: Oops, I forgot to include an image that I've seen in other forums. It seems trustworthy. Can anybody confirm that the info is reliable?
Best Regards.
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Spaazkaz
Bluelighter
also curious about the above post... bump
aright one thing at a time:
first of all, no one in here knows what "cocaine" is, we have never even seen it, have you? My guess is that you just dreamed of the whole post you say (for gods sake stop self incriminating)
the above table is from a book called "the cocaine handbook" author is david lee, publisher and/or press. You will not find it new any more, only used and at ridiculous prices (150+ usd). Though SWIM has to admit the book is VERY VERY good.
And yes obviously its reliable (for the most part, it does have a few errors, but not many).
Amphetamines and methamphetamines are very rarely used to cut cocaine, you souldnt worry too much about that.
Most cuts are what you give in your list, but even so they are kind of "innert" dont do much to alter the high, the problem with cocaine nowadays is the rushed process used by the manufacturers. The dont treat it with potasium permaganate and deliberately skip washes and extractions to increase the total net weight. In the end you get something that has at most 50-60% cocaine to begin with, the rest 40% is other alkaloids, some of which do have pshycoactive properties. The "bad" properties of cocaine are not those of speed it self but a combination of reminicent alkaloids and cuts...
The acetone wash will remove caffeine if caffeine is in its freebase form, caffeine base (white crystalls hexagonal) is soluble in acetone 1gram per 50ml of acetone.
Caffeine hydrochloride though SWIM doesnt know, if it is soluble in acetone or not.
His guess is that it is not though. In any case, An A/B extraction will rid of caffeine easily
paracetamol is soluble in acetone so yes the acetone wash will remove it.
SWIM has no idea if the comercial tests work (or how well they work for that matter)
first of all, no one in here knows what "cocaine" is, we have never even seen it, have you? My guess is that you just dreamed of the whole post you say (for gods sake stop self incriminating)
the above table is from a book called "the cocaine handbook" author is david lee, publisher and/or press. You will not find it new any more, only used and at ridiculous prices (150+ usd). Though SWIM has to admit the book is VERY VERY good.
And yes obviously its reliable (for the most part, it does have a few errors, but not many).
Amphetamines and methamphetamines are very rarely used to cut cocaine, you souldnt worry too much about that.
Most cuts are what you give in your list, but even so they are kind of "innert" dont do much to alter the high, the problem with cocaine nowadays is the rushed process used by the manufacturers. The dont treat it with potasium permaganate and deliberately skip washes and extractions to increase the total net weight. In the end you get something that has at most 50-60% cocaine to begin with, the rest 40% is other alkaloids, some of which do have pshycoactive properties. The "bad" properties of cocaine are not those of speed it self but a combination of reminicent alkaloids and cuts...
The acetone wash will remove caffeine if caffeine is in its freebase form, caffeine base (white crystalls hexagonal) is soluble in acetone 1gram per 50ml of acetone.
Caffeine hydrochloride though SWIM doesnt know, if it is soluble in acetone or not.
His guess is that it is not though. In any case, An A/B extraction will rid of caffeine easily
paracetamol is soluble in acetone so yes the acetone wash will remove it.
SWIM has no idea if the comercial tests work (or how well they work for that matter)
Le Junk
Bluelighter
Leolo,
I'll add some additional remarks to Epote's response.
I personally think that caffeine, in either of it's forms, is most likely the #1 used adulterant today. In fact, it wouldn't surprise me if alot of the samples are nothing more than procaine, benzocaine or one of the other 100+ caines mixed with just caffeine for umph......and no cocaine at all!
Is it really that bad out there? ABSOLUTELY! I haven't gotten a "real" bag of blow (in the States), in nearly 5 years! And before I recently quit using blow, I was using nearly every single day, from totally different dealers, who didn't know each other, from different cities and so on, but I'm sure you get the picture.
However, after employing several various clean-up techniques, which I've outlined in this thread, the blow was then brought up to par. Once cleaned correctly, is the final product as good as disco blow from the 80's? Nope, but damn close!
Thin layer chromatography, or GC/MS, is the absolute best way of analyzing any illicit sample for it's actual % make-up and for finding the other various adulterants used. It's what crime labs use for testing samples of seized products, so yes, it's an outstanding source if you have one available to you! I certainly wish I did! Very expensive equipment, very expensive!
The EZ tests are good as far as the one's used for ecstasy in conjuction with testing your blow. However, I really have a difficult time believing their EZ White test results as I'm undoubtedly sure that my samples weren't consistently 70% or even better, as the test indicated. I think the EZ white test is flawed and that it cannot differentiate between cocaine and the other possible caines. Just me .02.![:\](https://bluelight.org/xf/BL_Images/Orig_Emoji/wrygrin.gif "wry grin :\")
As Epote said, the adulterant guide you have is taken from the "Bible" on cocaine (The Cocaine Handbook, by David Lee) and it's findings are accurate. As already stated, it's no longer published, but if you have the means and if it's available, I'd strongly suggest picking up a copy if your even remotely serious about using cocaine.
I think Epote answered everything else. And as far as the Google thing goes, I guess the #1 spot calls for a celebration! I think I'll drink two Mountain Dews today instead of just one! Wait a minute, who are those two guys knocking at my front door? HOLY SHI
I'll add some additional remarks to Epote's response.
I personally think that caffeine, in either of it's forms, is most likely the #1 used adulterant today. In fact, it wouldn't surprise me if alot of the samples are nothing more than procaine, benzocaine or one of the other 100+ caines mixed with just caffeine for umph......and no cocaine at all!
Is it really that bad out there? ABSOLUTELY! I haven't gotten a "real" bag of blow (in the States), in nearly 5 years!
And before I recently quit using blow, I was using nearly every single day, from totally different dealers, who didn't know each other, from different cities and so on, but I'm sure you get the picture. However, after employing several various clean-up techniques, which I've outlined in this thread, the blow was then brought up to par. Once cleaned correctly, is the final product as good as disco blow from the 80's? Nope, but damn close!
Thin layer chromatography, or GC/MS, is the absolute best way of analyzing any illicit sample for it's actual % make-up and for finding the other various adulterants used. It's what crime labs use for testing samples of seized products, so yes, it's an outstanding source if you have one available to you! I certainly wish I did!
Very expensive equipment, very expensive!The EZ tests are good as far as the one's used for ecstasy in conjuction with testing your blow. However, I really have a difficult time believing their EZ White test results as I'm undoubtedly sure that my samples weren't consistently 70% or even better, as the test indicated. I think the EZ white test is flawed and that it cannot differentiate between cocaine and the other possible caines. Just me .02.
As Epote said, the adulterant guide you have is taken from the "Bible" on cocaine (The Cocaine Handbook, by David Lee) and it's findings are accurate. As already stated, it's no longer published, but if you have the means and if it's available, I'd strongly suggest picking up a copy if your even remotely serious about using cocaine.
I think Epote answered everything else. And as far as the Google thing goes, I guess the #1 spot calls for a celebration! I think I'll drink two Mountain Dews today instead of just one!
Wait a minute, who are those two guys knocking at my front door? HOLY SHI
i'm sorry, but there's way too much shit in this thread and tbh i don't have the time to read it all but i do have the time to do this wash between my chores so i need to ask if this is the following is correct to the T for cleaning the coke:
1) epsom salts heated at 400 degrees F for 2 hours, then powdered
2) add powdered salt to acetone and cover with tin foil to prevent moisture
3) let sit overnight
4) filter anhydrous acetone off, add cocaine to it
5) stir and let sit until crystals are on the bottom
6) filter off liquid shit through coffee filter, do second wash with precipitate
7) cocaine is what remains in the filter; dry and enjoy
???????? great thread btw, i just wanted to make sure i'm not missing a detail but finding that would require reading every post in 31 pages which i honestly don't have time for
1) epsom salts heated at 400 degrees F for 2 hours, then powdered
2) add powdered salt to acetone and cover with tin foil to prevent moisture
3) let sit overnight
4) filter anhydrous acetone off, add cocaine to it
5) stir and let sit until crystals are on the bottom
6) filter off liquid shit through coffee filter, do second wash with precipitate
7) cocaine is what remains in the filter; dry and enjoy
???????? great thread btw, i just wanted to make sure i'm not missing a detail but finding that would require reading every post in 31 pages which i honestly don't have time for
Le Junk
Bluelighter
thujone said:
Thanks for the kudos, but it's a damn good thing you DID ask these questions first, because your directions were only good halfway thru # 2.
Okay, it goes in this order:
1. Bake epsom salts on an aluminum covered baking sheet for 2 hours at 400 degrees F.
2. Once finished baking, pour about 20-30 grams of the newly formed powder into your 1 liter can of home store purchased acetone. Replace the cap and then skake thoroughly for about 2-3 minutes. Then simply let the can sit overnight.
3. Making sure you never tip the acetone can on it's side, simply use a glass piptette, eye dropper or turkey baster to reach down inside of it and draw out the required amount of acetone you'll be needing. Never draw any acetone from near the bottom of the can as it contains the former water and/or alcohol.
4. Now, with a beaker or shotglass full of your required amount of acetone, pour in your finely ground, yet still adulterated blow. Stir thoroughly for about 2 minutes and then cover with anything to keep moisture from the air out.
5. Let the crytals completely settle on the bottom and make sure the acetone on top is nearly clear. Once this happens, remove the cover and carefully pour out the acetone portion only, trying to stop short of any crystals falling out. If any do, that's okay.
6. Cover the filter paper and let the first batch of dirty acetone drain completely.
7. Pour some fresh acetone into the original beaker or shotglass containing your cocaine crystals. Stir thoroughly for about 2-3 minutes, remove the cover from the funnel and this time quickly pour all of the contents into the filter paper. If any crystals stick to the original beaker or shotglass, simply pour some more fresh acetone in, swirl it around and pour them into the filter as well. If not crystals stuck, pour fresh acetone in to the beaker anyway as we want a third and final wash of the newly cleaned crystals.
8. Cover the funnel and let drain thoroughly for the last time. Once drained, carefully remove the filter paper containing your newly cleaned crystals, fold it over and press it together lightly as to squeeze any additional acetone out. Once done, place the filter paper still containing the crystals in between a few paper towels. Press firmly on the clump thru the towels to absorb any additional acetone.
9. With the clump of dried cocaine crystals still inside of the filter paper, take a blow dryer and dry the clump as well as you can. It will become rock hard inside of the paper. Once you've dried it really well, carefully open up the filter paper over a ceramic plate and let the newly cleaned cocaine clump fall out onto it. Crush it up as fine as possible.
10. Let dry thoroughly and uncovered in a non-humid environment for 48 hours.
11. At the 48 hour mark, if you can wait that long, scrape into lines and OH YEAH, it's showtime, my friend!
You'll notice no smell, no burn, no real flavor, but rather a smooth and gentle buzz accompanied by a strong numbing that creeps up on you in about 2 minutes. Savor and enjoy that newly cleaned cocaine for the next two to three straight days without any paranoia, ampyness, edgyness or craving to constantly do more, more, more when it really sucks, sucks, sucks! Relax, because this newly cleaned cocaine will probably be the best cocaine you've ever done...........
always my pleasure, Le Junk
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aright, ill add some stuff to lejunk's post just a few procedurals quirks etc ive found that tend to work.
1) if you want to know if your acetone wash worked pay attention the the places where acetone tends to evaporate. I.e after doing the first wash if at the rod or the side of the beakers where the acetone evaporated exists a white or off white residue that you need to scratch to get off then that means your cocaine was cut with something soluble in acetone and your wash cleared that crap off (yay). SWIM has done a few washes so he will describe the effects according to batch
bad powder cocaine:
before the wash: left residue in the nose, horrible high, was mild to non existant at normal doses, was speedy and like shit at high doses, nothing in between
after the wash: lost very litle of net weight, still was horrible crap, at least it looked better. Truth be told that batch was pathetic, probably had no cocaine in it
mediocre cocaine, obviously re rocked
before the wash: smelled strongly of nail polish, stung to the nose like a bitch, strong high, strongly laxative, all in all, what you normaly get if you have a "good" dealer.
after the wash: lost something 40% of its net weight, 5gr became 3 after the wash, ALOT of white residue on beaker, initially thought it was cocaine, well it wasnt, it was just imprutities that where soluble in acetone. still some burning of the nose, the high was a bit milder and more pleasant, no intence laxative effect, was actually LESS potent per line and the crash a bit milder. All in all made it better
excelent, fish scale, sparkly beatifull rocks:
before the wash: was absolutely fantastic
after the was: was absolutely fantastic but even smoother to the nose. 0.8g of that stuff produced no crash
btw something that lejunk initially observed and i can definately confirm:
change your cocaine from several bagies and paper folders each time crashing it a bit with your fingers. Every time some fine white powder will get stuck to the paper/baggy. THATS NOT COCAINE!
lejunk said to perform what essentially is a vibration purification on a gloss paper plate. SWIE can confirm that do it, very important, the difference in the high quality is VERY noticable (for an experience cocaine user that is)
1) if you want to know if your acetone wash worked pay attention the the places where acetone tends to evaporate. I.e after doing the first wash if at the rod or the side of the beakers where the acetone evaporated exists a white or off white residue that you need to scratch to get off then that means your cocaine was cut with something soluble in acetone and your wash cleared that crap off (yay). SWIM has done a few washes so he will describe the effects according to batch
bad powder cocaine:
before the wash: left residue in the nose, horrible high, was mild to non existant at normal doses, was speedy and like shit at high doses, nothing in between
after the wash: lost very litle of net weight, still was horrible crap, at least it looked better. Truth be told that batch was pathetic, probably had no cocaine in it
mediocre cocaine, obviously re rocked
before the wash: smelled strongly of nail polish, stung to the nose like a bitch, strong high, strongly laxative, all in all, what you normaly get if you have a "good" dealer.
after the wash: lost something 40% of its net weight, 5gr became 3 after the wash, ALOT of white residue on beaker, initially thought it was cocaine, well it wasnt, it was just imprutities that where soluble in acetone. still some burning of the nose, the high was a bit milder and more pleasant, no intence laxative effect, was actually LESS potent per line and the crash a bit milder. All in all made it better
excelent, fish scale, sparkly beatifull rocks:
before the wash: was absolutely fantastic
after the was: was absolutely fantastic but even smoother to the nose. 0.8g of that stuff produced no crash
btw something that lejunk initially observed and i can definately confirm:
change your cocaine from several bagies and paper folders each time crashing it a bit with your fingers. Every time some fine white powder will get stuck to the paper/baggy. THATS NOT COCAINE!
lejunk said to perform what essentially is a vibration purification on a gloss paper plate. SWIE can confirm that do it, very important, the difference in the high quality is VERY noticable (for an experience cocaine user that is)
Le Junk
Bluelighter
^^^^Ah, I should have added, you MUST have actual cocaine to begin with in order to end up with any in the end! Imperative actually.......
Le Junk
Imperative actually.......Le Junk
Sond
Bluelighter
Leolo said:Hi everyone,
I've found this thread through Google by searching for "purify cocaine". It was the very first link in the results page, so I guess that mighty Google agrees with you about the usefulness of your method
Anyway, I'm very interested in this. But I'm a novice and have a lot of questions.
I'm thinking of ordering a test kit from the guys at EZtest. Do you have any experience with them? Are they reliable? They sell something called "EZ Test White" that supposedly tests the purity of coke and is not fooled by the presence of lidocaine, procaine, etc. Should I trust that?
They also sell Mandelin tests, and Marquis tests. Will those reliably detect the presence of amphetamines and methamphetamines in coke?
I want to make sure that the stuff I buy on the street doesn't contain any of that. But from what I've read, it seems that purity can be as low as 20% !! Is that true? Is the situation that bad, really ??
I live in Seville (Spain, Europe). Are there differences in the quality of the drug here compared to the USA?
There is an organization here called "Energy Control". They offer a free service in which they regularly test the street drugs that people send to them. They use a technique called Thin Layer Chromatography and have found, among others, the following substances in what dealers sell as "cocaine":
- benzocaine
- procaine
- lidocaine
- caffeine
- paracetamol
I'm most worried about paracetamol. They say it can be toxic in high doses and can cause liver damage.
Will acetone wash remove paracetamol? What about the other substances?
PS: Many, many thanks for all the great info that you're sharing in this forum. I really appreciate it!
EDIT: Oops, I forgot to include an image that I've seen in other forums. It seems trustworthy. Can anybody confirm that the info is reliable?
Best Regards.
Last time i was in spain i got some very dullish white yellow powder almost organic in its texture. It seemed to be more common and popular than rocks/crystalls there. I was told by a friend who lives in argentina that it was the form that i usually came in argentina aswell. I found it very smooth, totally different from what i get in Stockholm. How does it look that you get in sevilla? This was in Madrid.
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ok swim, started from 3grams and went down to 1.10
the acetone became white-muddish looking when it was dropped in the beaker, and no resedue was evaporated on the rod or the sides.
the powder itself it was snow-like it reminds of speed without the shinyness.
the high is more subtle and not what you expect, no burning no blocked nose and its more relaxing than OMG I WANT TO TALK TO EVERYONE.
is that ok?
the acetone became white-muddish looking when it was dropped in the beaker, and no resedue was evaporated on the rod or the sides.
the powder itself it was snow-like it reminds of speed without the shinyness.
the high is more subtle and not what you expect, no burning no blocked nose and its more relaxing than OMG I WANT TO TALK TO EVERYONE.
is that ok?
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I want to make sure that the stuff I buy on the street doesn't contain any of that. But from what I've read, it seems that purity can be as low as 20% !! Is that true? Is the situation that bad, really ??
In the end you get something that has at most 50-60% cocaine to begin with, the rest 40% is other alkaloids, some of which do have pshycoactive properties. The "bad" properties of cocaine are not those of speed it self but a combination of reminicent alkaloids and cuts...
In fact, it wouldn't surprise me if alot of the samples are nothing more than procaine, benzocaine or one of the other 100+ caines mixed with just caffeine for umph......and no cocaine at all!
I haven't gotten a "real" bag of blow (in the States), in nearly 5 years!
OK, here we have one of the most repeated stories on this forum- that today's cocaine in the US is typically total crap, it's less than 20% blow, or not even blow at all.
Stories abound about how the cocaine entering the US is already cut by the gready MExican Cartels, so we really don't have a chance at getting anything good at the street level.
But is this really true?
Do the facts back it up?
I spent a boring afternoon reading through the last 3 years (!!!) of the Microgram reports from the DEA.http://www.dea.gov/programs/forensicsci/microgram/index.html
There are numerous (>30) reports detailing cocaine that had been sent to various DEA labs in the US for testing.
The cocaine was typically in 1 kilo packages, mostly as part of a 2-3 kilo bust.
And guess what?
The average (I'm not a math major) was always in the 80% range.
I read 1 where it was 50%, it was being transported across state lines.
I read 1 that was a kilo of nothing but cuts- it was a "fake' kilo intended to rip off a drug dealer.
But most of the busts involving kilos being brought into the country tested at about 80% pure.
These entries were taken from Micrograms from Jan 06 through Jan 07:
Analysis of the white powder (total net mass 3.975 kilograms) with GC, GC/MS, and FTIR confirmed 74.4 percent cocaine hydrochloride.
Analysis of the powder in the lot of 93 bricks (total net mass 93.3 kilograms) by GC/MS, IR and GC/FID confirmed 83 percent cocaine hydrochloride, adulterated with hydroxyzine.
Analysis of the cocaine samples (total net mass 10.55 kilograms) using the same analytical techniques confirmed 81 percent cocaine hydrochloride adulterated with diltiazem.
Analysis of the powder (total net mass 439.3 grams) by GC, MS, and IR confirmed 90 percent cocaine hydrochloride.
Analysis of the powder (total net mass 3.895 kilograms) by GC/FID, GC/MS and FTIR/ATR confirmed 79 percent cocaine hydrochloride and diltiazem (not quantitated).
Analysis by color tests, FTIR, GC/MS, and GC/FID confirmed 82 percent cocaine hydrochloride and diltiazem (not quantitated). The total net mass in the 189 “mini-bricks” was 27.31 kilograms (combined net mass of all 34 packages 34.08 kilograms).
There were approximately 200 straws in all, containing a total net weight of 12.3 kilograms of powder. Analysis by GC/MS, FTIR ATR, and UV/Vis confirmed 76 percent cocaine hydrochloride.
Analysis of the powder (total net mass 876.9 grams) by GC/FID, GC/MS, and FT IR/ATR confirmed 78 percent cocaine hydrochloride, adulterated with methylephedrine and diltiazem (adulterants not quantitated).
Analysis of the powder (total net mass 411.7 grams) by GC/FID, GC/MS, and FTIR-ATR confirmed 85 percent cocaine hydrochloride.
Analysis of the off-white powder (total net mass 7.75 kilograms) by GC/MS, FT-Raman, and GC/FID confirmed 86 percent cocaine hydrochloride.
Analysis of the powder (total net mass 14.80 kilograms) by GC/MS and FTIR confirmed 82 percent cocaine hydrochloride.
How could it be?????
Is the DEA lying to us, trying to convince us that the coke we are getting is actually really good?
Wow, that doesn't make sense. Probably not the answer.
Could it be that some of us have a rather glorious view of how great coke was when we were younger?
Maybe.
Or maybe it's just an urban legend.
Please, someone prove me wrong.
Show me all the kilos coming into the country that are already cut to 50%.
In the end you get something that has at most 50-60% cocaine to begin with, the rest 40% is other alkaloids, some of which do have pshycoactive properties. The "bad" properties of cocaine are not those of speed it self but a combination of reminicent alkaloids and cuts...
In fact, it wouldn't surprise me if alot of the samples are nothing more than procaine, benzocaine or one of the other 100+ caines mixed with just caffeine for umph......and no cocaine at all!
I haven't gotten a "real" bag of blow (in the States), in nearly 5 years!
OK, here we have one of the most repeated stories on this forum- that today's cocaine in the US is typically total crap, it's less than 20% blow, or not even blow at all.
Stories abound about how the cocaine entering the US is already cut by the gready MExican Cartels, so we really don't have a chance at getting anything good at the street level.
But is this really true?
Do the facts back it up?
I spent a boring afternoon reading through the last 3 years (!!!) of the Microgram reports from the DEA.http://www.dea.gov/programs/forensicsci/microgram/index.html
There are numerous (>30) reports detailing cocaine that had been sent to various DEA labs in the US for testing.
The cocaine was typically in 1 kilo packages, mostly as part of a 2-3 kilo bust.
And guess what?
The average (I'm not a math major) was always in the 80% range.
I read 1 where it was 50%, it was being transported across state lines.
I read 1 that was a kilo of nothing but cuts- it was a "fake' kilo intended to rip off a drug dealer.
But most of the busts involving kilos being brought into the country tested at about 80% pure.
These entries were taken from Micrograms from Jan 06 through Jan 07:
Analysis of the white powder (total net mass 3.975 kilograms) with GC, GC/MS, and FTIR confirmed 74.4 percent cocaine hydrochloride. Analysis of the powder in the lot of 93 bricks (total net mass 93.3 kilograms) by GC/MS, IR and GC/FID confirmed 83 percent cocaine hydrochloride, adulterated with hydroxyzine. Analysis of the cocaine samples (total net mass 10.55 kilograms) using the same analytical techniques confirmed 81 percent cocaine hydrochloride adulterated with diltiazem. Analysis of the powder (total net mass 439.3 grams) by GC, MS, and IR confirmed 90 percent cocaine hydrochloride. Analysis of the powder (total net mass 3.895 kilograms) by GC/FID, GC/MS and FTIR/ATR confirmed 79 percent cocaine hydrochloride and diltiazem (not quantitated). Analysis by color tests, FTIR, GC/MS, and GC/FID confirmed 82 percent cocaine hydrochloride and diltiazem (not quantitated). The total net mass in the 189 “mini-bricks” was 27.31 kilograms (combined net mass of all 34 packages 34.08 kilograms). There were approximately 200 straws in all, containing a total net weight of 12.3 kilograms of powder. Analysis by GC/MS, FTIR ATR, and UV/Vis confirmed 76 percent cocaine hydrochloride. Analysis of the powder (total net mass 876.9 grams) by GC/FID, GC/MS, and FT IR/ATR confirmed 78 percent cocaine hydrochloride, adulterated with methylephedrine and diltiazem (adulterants not quantitated). Analysis of the powder (total net mass 411.7 grams) by GC/FID, GC/MS, and FTIR-ATR confirmed 85 percent cocaine hydrochloride. Analysis of the off-white powder (total net mass 7.75 kilograms) by GC/MS, FT-Raman, and GC/FID confirmed 86 percent cocaine hydrochloride. Analysis of the powder (total net mass 14.80 kilograms) by GC/MS and FTIR confirmed 82 percent cocaine hydrochloride. How could it be?????
Is the DEA lying to us, trying to convince us that the coke we are getting is actually really good?
Wow, that doesn't make sense. Probably not the answer.
Could it be that some of us have a rather glorious view of how great coke was when we were younger?
Maybe.
Or maybe it's just an urban legend.
Please, someone prove me wrong.
Show me all the kilos coming into the country that are already cut to 50%.
A good starting point for all of this is fresh leaves from Real Coca Tea they ship very fast worldwide.
Interesting. Note that there's a theory abroad that cocaine comes in two different alkaloids, one of them interfering with the effect.
What about "diltiazem"? Seems to be a common cut. From Wikipedia "Diltiazem is a member of the group of drugs known as Benzothiapines , which are a class of calcium channel blockers, used in the treatment of hypertension, angina pectoris, and some types of arrhythmia. It is a class 3 anti anginal drug, and a Class IV antidysrhythmic." Odd.
What about "diltiazem"? Seems to be a common cut. From Wikipedia "Diltiazem is a member of the group of drugs known as Benzothiapines , which are a class of calcium channel blockers, used in the treatment of hypertension, angina pectoris, and some types of arrhythmia. It is a class 3 anti anginal drug, and a Class IV antidysrhythmic." Odd.
has SWIY ever tried cocaine straight from a kg brick? More often than not its damn great. How often does SWIY come in direct contact with a kg brick? Not all people are drug lords you know.
and no, its not a myth of what cocaine is, SWIM has personal experience.
0.8gr of good quality cocaine has no crash and is downright blissfull. The street crap is speedy and messed up, go tell your friend to try it man its not hard, SWIM is not talking out of his ass, swim is too young to have lived in the 70's cocaine scene (or the 80's OR THE 90'S for that matter). But had the fortune to try all sorts of different cocaine qualities.
p.s. check out the world drugs report 2007 from the United Nations.
the cocaine retail and wholesale charts are prety informative. On average the cocaine purity in retail samples is 10-60% and in wholesale samples 30-85%
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