Cocaine Le Junk's Cocaine Purification Megathread v. The Final Word

[vanlier]

The acetone removed 10% of the weight, most probably inactive stuff. Still, for IVing even non active stuff is undesirable.

Note that purification never makes blow "stronger". It makes it purer. In fact if it contained speed (a "strong" stuff!) and you remove the speed, your blow will be weaker in terms of strength. But of course it will be better.
).

How can you remove speed with an acetone wash? That is not possible in 90% or more of the cases. And that is the pain with those washes: you may clean the blow from caffeine, paracetamol, aspirin amd phenacetine but not from the really nasty stuff

My experience with all these acetone washing and A/B procedures is: you may increase the qulity of bad coke a bit but DO NOT EXPECT A MIRACLE. If you buy 1 $ wermouth it will cost you a fortune to turn this crap into Chateu Lafitte.....

To make my point clear: Thanks to US influence in SA it is very difficult to make good, well oxidised coke there, because potassium permanganate has become too expensive if it is available..... What people get is rough, non-oxidised blow that stresses your heart, makes you sick. That crap is adulterated with pharmaceutical crap. You may remove the cut but you can not repeat the oxidising process with potassium permanganate.

Also I doubt that a non-professional is able to remove ephedrine and amphetamines most the time from blow with an A/B extraction. Because the amph/epeherdine is converted to amph base or ephedrine base and you cant remove that with water! If you recristallize the base you will have the amph and ephedrine in there again in most of the cases. So my conclusion: if there is amphetamine HCL or ephedrine HCL in the coke: forget it! You will not get it out unless you are a professional. Amph Sulphate is a better starting point.

My advise: Dont buy crap! Test it with Mandellin test, that is the best test for blow. Better wait until the nice flakes from Peru are coming and tell your salesman to fuck off with his yellow non oxidised shit.

 

[epote]

Also I doubt that a non-professional is able to remove ephedrine and amphetamines most the time from blow with an A/B extraction. Because the amph/epeherdine is converted to amph base or ephedrine base and you cant remove that with water! If you recristallize the base you will have the amph and ephedrine in there again in most of the cases. So my conclusion: if there is amphetamine HCL or ephedrine HCL in the coke: forget it! You will not get it out unless you are a professional. Amph Sulphate is a better starting point.

i was under the impression that a proper A/B extraction will rid most of amphetamine/ehpedrine impurities. Yes they are basable but if you do the procedure a) slowlly some of the adulterant will stick to the beaker/stiring rod and b) amphetamine base is slightly water solube thus will be removed with a thorough water wash of the base. The pka of amphetamine is 10.1 which is higher of cocaine thus its a stronger base so it will react with amonia before cocaine base, will it not?

 

[Le Junk]

i was under the impression that a proper A/B extraction will rid most of amphetamine/ehpedrine impurities. Yes they are basable but if you do the procedure a) slowlly some of the adulterant will stick to the beaker/stiring rod and b) amphetamine base is slightly water solube thus will be removed with a thorough water wash of the base. The pka of amphetamine is 10.1 which is higher of cocaine thus its a stronger base so it will react with amonia before cocaine base, will it not?

Epote,

Your absolutely correct, and I'll have to disagree with my good friend vanlier on this point and one other.

Yes, if you perform the basification process correctly via the SLOW addition of the ammonia solution, then all you will be left with is pure, 100% cocaine base, and absolutely no amphetamine, ephedrine or any of the other active bases. They will precipitate out first on the stir rod and will not form as a bleach white base like the cocaine will. I can't stress enough that the SLOW addition of the 1:1 ammonia solution to the dissolved cocaine water will be the ONLY way to remove amphetamine, ephedrine and all the other active and inactive cuts.

If the basicfication process is performed correctly via the ammonia route, then there will be absolutely NO reason to perform an acetone wash beforehand. I think I will do a complete write up, given to me by a very good friend of mine, on how to perform this entire precedure from an adulterated powder to a 100% pure cocaine freebase, and then back to a 99-100% pure cocaine powder.

This procedure, as mentioned above, will result in an absolute pure end product. This goes for both freebase cocaine and cocaine hydrochloride.

One final note. My friend vanlier mentions in a previous post in this thread that the absence of the second step of cocaine production, todays lack of use of potassium permaganate to oxidize the cocaine, is absolutely necessary to achieve the true quality blow at the end, regardless of how we get there. I had long pondered this issue myself, and having recently given up cocaine, I really couldn't verify this myself. But I did ask several people who now religiously use this procedure from front to back on todays crap and they have all verified the blow to be, as one specifically said, "Just as good as any blow I've ever done, including the disco days!" Pretty good testament as to just how good this procedure can be, but only when performed correctly!

I'll be doing a complete write up from front to back within one weeks time of turning adulterated powder to 100% pure cociane freebase and then back into 99-100% pure cocaine hydrochloride.

Le Junk.....................with the exception of doing two absolutely outstanding lines I found on top of the kitchen cabinets while doing some house cleaning, been sober for 4 months and 8 days now!

 

[darckeen]

I'll be doing a complete write up from front to back within one weeks time of turning adulterated powder to 100% pure cociane freebase and then back into 99-100% pure cocaine hydrochloride.

sweeeet

 

[Fight Club]

Le Junk.....................with the exception of doing two absolutely outstanding lines I found on top of the kitchen cabinets while doing some house cleaning, been sober for 4 months and 8 days now!

LJ - I'd clean your house anytime!

FC

 

[QAZ123]

Hello all,

First post here after stumbling across this forum. May as well get straight to the point! Quick question - is the method described on the first page of this thread for purifying cocaine up to date, or is there a more refined method posted somewhere within the 30 pages? If I had the time to read through a 30-page thread I would, but I guess that would take several hours which I don't really have to spare right now!!

A bit of info about me: I live in London, England and buy a couple of grams of coke from a regular source every week or two, and although it seems to be of a consistently decent quality (based on my varied experiences with street coke over the last year or two), I still think that at GBP50 a gram, the overall effect isn't really what I'd call 'value for money'. Therefore I'm interested in trying out any genuine methods of purifying or improving the overall quality.

Also, regarding the 'ingredients' required for the purification process, is there any input in this thread from UK-based posters re. shops/websites etc. where the required chemicals/equipment etc. can be bought easily/inexpensively without raising any suspicion?

Thanks in advance for any valid advice posters see fit to provide, and apologies once again for my laziness in not wanting or having the time to read through this very lengthy thread.

Regards to all.

 

[Le Junk]

Hello all,

First post here after stumbling across this forum. May as well get straight to the point! Quick question - is the method described on the first page of this thread for purifying cocaine up to date, or is there a more refined method posted somewhere within the 30 pages? If I had the time to read through a 30-page thread I would, but I guess that would take several hours which I don't really have to spare right now!!

A bit of info about me: I live in London, England and buy a couple of grams of coke from a regular source every week or two, and although it seems to be of a consistently decent quality (based on my varied experiences with street coke over the last year or two), I still think that at GBP50 a gram, the overall effect isn't really what I'd call 'value for money'. Therefore I'm interested in trying out any genuine methods of purifying or improving the overall quality.

Also, regarding the 'ingredients' required for the purification process, is there any input in this thread from UK-based posters re. shops/websites etc. where the required chemicals/equipment etc. can be bought easily/inexpensively without raising any suspicion?

Thanks in advance for any valid advice posters see fit to provide, and apologies once again for my laziness in not wanting or having the time to read through this very lengthy thread.

Regards to all.

First off, welcome to Bluelight! Secondly, I am the original thread starter and will tell you that since my posting of this thread, have since quit using cocaine alltogether. I was spending to much of my time and money on it. Who'd of figured, right?

Anyway, to save you from having to read thru this entire thread, I will say that yes, this thread is entirely up to date with regards to a quick and thorough cleansing of your cocaine. There are much more advance methods which involve using an A/B extraction etc., but this is still the most bang for the buck, minus the advanced chemistry and more advanced, and thus "watched" chemicals.

I would wait to see if anyone from the U.K. responds to this thread as I know thru the 30 plus pages, there have been several that were. Best of luck, and if you have any further questions, either myself, or a recent Bluelight aquintance of mine, Epote, will possibly be able to assist you further.....

Epote, I certainly hope your okay with my formentioning of your guidance. If not, I'll remove it from the thread. Remember, everything in this thread is entirely and strickly for entertainment purposes only. Niether myself or any other member of Bluelight actually uses drugs, nor do they promote their use either. Bluelight is just one big drug fantasy world!

Le Junk

P.S. But I would like to actually try drugs someday.................

 

[QAZ123]

First off, welcome to Bluelight! Secondly, I am the original thread starter and will tell you that since my posting of this thread, have since quit using cocaine alltogether. I was spending to much of my time and money on it. Who'd of figured, right?

Anyway, to save you from having to read thru this entire thread, I will say that yes, this thread is entirely up to date with regards to a quick and thorough cleansing of your cocaine. There are much more advance methods which involve using an A/B extraction etc., but this is still the most bang for the buck, minus the advanced chemistry and more advanced, and thus "watched" chemicals.

I would wait to see if anyone from the U.K. responds to this thread as I know thru the 30 plus pages, there have been several that were. Best of luck, and if you have any further questions, either myself, or a recent Bluelight aquintance of mine, Epote, will possibly be able to assist you further.....

Epote, I certainly hope your okay with my formentioning of your guidance. If not, I'll remove it from the thread. Remember, everything in this thread is entirely and strickly for entertainment purposes only. Niether myself or any other member of Bluelight actually uses drugs, nor do they promote their use either. Bluelight is just one big drug fantasy world!

Le Junk

P.S. But I would like to actually try drugs someday.................

Hi Le Junk,

Thanks for the welcome, this website is quite a find!

I think I'll do as you suggest and wait and see if there are any further replies over the next day or two from any UK-based posters regarding some of my questions. I'll post here again with any questions or concerns I may have. Thanks again for the prompt reply.

Regards.

PS. Well done for giving up the coke, it is an expensive business after all! I'm sure I'll do the same once the novelty wears off and/or family/work commitments dictate otherwise

 

[epote]

Epote, I certainly hope your okay with my formentioning of your guidance.

its an honor man!

can be bought easily/inexpensively without raising any suspicion?

my flamingo aint from the UK but has a couple friend seagulls there, its from greece which probably has similar lows.

In any case buying any organic solvent (acetone, ether, chloroform, methanol, ethanol etc) in anhydrite (i.e. no water in it) form, from any reputable local chemical store will not actually raise suspicions. For example ethyl ether anhydrite wont raise any bells unless bought in large quantities (something like 45 liters). BUT even as such buying any quantity of those kind of chemicals usually requires a proforma invoice of a company that is adjacent to chemistry.

My flamingo knows of two local chem shops, one asked for the proforma the other did not because they probably where desperate for sales or just didnt bother. SWIQAZ could search around for local chem shops and just ask them that he wants a small quantity of such chemical for say, chemistry tutoring or whatever.

If swiQAZ cant find that he should search the internet for chem suppliers, there are several willing to do the transaction. That or he could come to greece

Bare in mind though that acetone can be bought at any chem supply shop, or even paint shops. Its just not anhydrous, but as lejunk illustrates the procedure of making it anhydrous is dumb easy.

is the method described on the first page of this thread for purifying cocaine up to date, or is there a more refined method posted somewhere within the 30 pages?

the acetone wash is very much up to date, but is definitely quality dependent. The better the original cocaine the better the acetone wash will work. If its excellent (no way we can get excellent cocaine) it will become excellent with a spark. If its good, it will become better, if its mediocre it'll become good and if its crap...well it will still be crap but at least it will look good.

In my flamingos opinion NOT doing an acetone wash is plain dumb, the goods outweigh the little trouble BY FAR.

There are more advanced procedures, first of all you could do several different extractions / washes using different solvents each time to remove procedurally more and more of the cuts, or you could do a full scale acid base extraction.

check this out:

http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?t=341530

 

[Baron_Greenbck]

PM me and ill tell you a guy who can get you all the chems needed, next day delivery, 1 litre of each, £24.95.

Bargain!!!

 

[tek1]

"Yes, if you perform the basification process correctly via the SLOW addition of the ammonia solution, then all you will be left with is pure, 100% cocaine base, and absolutely no amphetamine, ephedrine or any of the other active bases. They will precipitate out first on the stir rod and will not form as a bleach white base like the cocaine will. I can't stress enough that the SLOW addition of the 1:1 ammonia solution to the dissolved cocaine water will be the ONLY way to remove amphetamine, ephedrine and all the other active and inactive cuts."

Does this mean amphetamine and ephedrine bases out before cocaine; at lower pH levels? ( I really don't know this..)
Amphetamine and ephedrine bases aren't bleach white?

The method and slow addition only removes substances that are made into bases before cocaine( at lower pH's) and substances that are water soluble.

The method which the pictures are from cleans the cocaine out of plant material crap left from the original cocaine manufacturing process.

The A/B extraction for cocaine is good for making it better but when performed by inexperienced layman it wont give you 100 % or even 95 % coke. You still need experience + knowledge in lab techniques even though the method sounds very easy to perform.

"i was under the impression that a proper A/B extraction will rid most of amphetamine/ehpedrine impurities. Yes they are basable but if you do the procedure a) slowly some of the adulterant will stick to the beaker/stirring rod and b) amphetamine base is slightly water soluble thus will be removed with a thorough water wash of the base. The pka of amphetamine is 10.1 which is higher of cocaine thus its a stronger base so it will react with ammonia before cocaine base, will it not?"

Cocaine base is slightly water soluble too; 0,17 grams in 100ml's of water, so don't use more water than necessary to wash it.

 

[epote]

Cocaine base is slightly water soluble too; 0,17 grams in 100ml's of water, so don't use more water than necessary to wash it.

yes im aware of that, and i cant find the solubility of amphetamine base $#@^# do you have any info on that?

EDIT: amphetamine base is slightly soluble in water but that doesnt realy matter, at SI temp is an oily liquid, imiscible with water it wont contaminate our cocaine. BUT, methamphetamine on the other hand is kind of fucked up.

ephedrine hcl is soluble in water but acording to this http://chemicalland21.com/lifescience/phar/EPHEDRINE HYDROCHLORIDE.htm
it has a ph of 4.6 (unknown quantity of water/ephedrine, what kind of sucky site is this?!!) which is lower than cocaine so it would probably get the fuck out with the a/b

The A/B extraction for cocaine is good for making it better but when performed by inexperienced layman it wont give you 100 % or even 95 % coke. You still need experience + knowledge in lab techniques even though the method sounds very easy to perform.

can you expand a bit on that? Give a practical excample of what you mean or what have you?

god dammit, not having the proper tools sucks, my flamingo ought buy the merck index @$%@^#

more edits god dammit: methamphetamine base is also an oil #$@# this is hard and infuriating, why isnt there a sigle web page with these stuff?@#%#@

another edit: ephedrine base is water soluble (and volatile at room temp though it takes 4.5 months for a 33% reduction in volume)
pseudoephedrine on the other hand this site states http://designer-drug.com/pte/12.162.180.114/dcd/chemistry/ephedrineref.html that is not "as water soluble", what the fuck does that even mean?!

 

[tek1]

I mean't that the A/B extraction isn't just a magic procedure someone reads on the internet and makes "100 % cocaine". Even after a bit of experience in this.

I mean't it is easy process to perform with lejunk's good writeup/combination of writeups, but it won't make you 100 % cocaine. For shure.
If one understands and knows his chemistry, he knows when going over ~ 90% it requires also recrystallizations (which isn't same thing as acetone wash), and washes.

Still, the A/B method and/or wash makes your coke hell of a better than it was before, I don't contradict that.


props to lejunk!

 

[pseudointellectual]

quick question: a water wash on hcl (to get any non-water soluble/non-soluble period things out) is just letting the filter catch whatever crap is in there and letting the hcl/whatever else is water soluble drip onto a plate or mirror for evaporation, right?

dissolve first then pour through filter or what? I've never really seen this, simplest of simple wash, outlined.

 

[epote]

pseudointellectuall:

i dont think that what you say is technicaly called a wash, more like extraction i think.

but yeah, you dissolve cocaine hcl in water, filter out anything non water soluble and let evaporate on a dish

tek1:

yes im all with you im just trying to make since of everything quantify it so that we know how to gauge better the results.

What kind of recrystalizations? By temperature differential or with diferent solvents? What kind of additional washes?

i dont know, im actually asking

 

[pseudointellectual]

yep, leaching or an extraction. this seems like a good preliminary step, because who knows what's in the hcl one receives on the street. there could be particles that are insoluble in acetone, and those guys would be left in the filter paper with the hcl.

thanks

 

[Toufas]

i dont want to open another thread so i am using this.
are hygroscopic qualities a way to show the "purity" of the coke you have?
someone i know is always saying the coke he gets is on the dump side, and i want to know if he is getting something good or not.
the last 3 times he got something dry, it was all crashed up (wet stuff is usually lumpy) and it contained probably amphetamines, as he was really focused,something unusual for him as he has the attention span of a girl in a shopping mall.

 

[Fight Club]

he has the attention span of a girl in a shopping mall.

LOL! Sounds like most of us . . .

FC

 

[pseudointellectual]

epote: is using baked epsom salts ok for speeding up evaporation. crushed in sealed container with container of water+hcl? should suck up all the water, leaving the important stuff on the bottom/sides of container, right?

 

[epote]

pseudo: yep thats good, but it sould be already prety dry.

i mean, there is no point in putting some anhydrous magn sulfate near a glass of water it would just get saturated. The powder sould be at least visibly dry then dessicate like you describe