Last results from the lab for France/bordeaux

[monsignore]

Hi ! here somme results for differrent sample recolted since april to today :
Mamouth blanc/white : MDMA > 60mg
Smiley rose /pink : MDMA > 70 Mg
Butterfly green / vert : MDMA > 65 Mg + 11 Mg speed + cafeine
Euro blancs / white : MDMA >35 MG
OK White / blancs MDMA >70 Mg + speed
butterfly pink/rose MDMA > 65 Mg
Z ou N white / blancs Nivaquine
Arobace blancs /white : MDMA > 80Mg
Bretling white / blanc MDMA > 75 Mg
Statue of lilberty pink MDMA > 50 Mg
Mitsubishi blancs /white MDMA > 30 Mg + cafeine
Arobace blue : MDMA > 55 Mg
8 1/2 jaune MDMA > 55 Mg
Harry potter white/pink MDMA 50 Mg + MDEA 0.2 Mg
Grey apple MDMA > 50 + MDA traces
Mitubishi pink MDMA > 65 Mg
Apart of Nivaquine (used for paludism) no suspect or dangerous substances have been found....
Waiting for smiley blue.
Bye bye....
[ 22 August 2002: Message edited by: monsignore ]

 

[djfriendly]

Looks like France is running pretty clean! Are those pills from a single person, or are they collected from various sources? What I'm getting at is, is this selection representative of the typical product out there, or would this be all pills from one trusted source?
I'm also curious if anyone here has opinions about how the quantities listed may relate to pills sold elsewhere, such as the US? In terms of mg. of MDMA, these results seem to reflect my experience with pills here in the San Francisco area. If this has gotten offtopic for the forum, please edit away.
[ 19 August 2002: Message edited by: djfriendly ]

 

[easy e]

From what I know, quantities between 30-90 mg per pill are most common, although there are some exceptions. bear in mind that these quantities are measured on the amount of base of the drug. they strip away the hcl part to get proper results. so a 100 mg mdma.hcl dosed pill will show up as 84 mg of base..

 

[johnboy]

^^^ interesting. were the dosages that, say, Shulgin discussed in PIHKAL from the hcl or the base?

 

[djremix]

* bump *
very strange nobody mentioned this johhnboy, what do you think? (base / hcl dosages)

 

[johnboy]

my guess is the hcl... i'll go back and check PIHKAL when i get a chance. wouldbe great to hear from one of our chemists tho on this...

 

[easy e]

shulgins dosages are usually hcl.. since some brainiac figured he could make sulfates and get more money for value they measured it on base..which is the purest form..

 

[monsignore]

Hi djfriendly
Well, i must add some precisions :
- all samples collected in Bordeaux, France
- No, thoses dosages cannot be generalised to other part of planet Earth.
- yes, those dosage are quite light, but no strange substances....
And that cannot be generalised to all batches found : for example, 2 sample of white OK has been tested, with 2 very different dosage (1 at 86mg, the other at 71)
Oh, yes : all results are BASE dosage....
[ 22 August 2002: Message edited by: monsignore ]