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Last night my friend fainted on an MDMA come up..help!

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Shazbuckle

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It was his second time consuming MDMA, his first went very well with no incidents. He consumed 1 pill. (the pill is pure...pillreports 1 and another and here is an ecstacydata link)

Anyway, we were queuing for John O'Callaghan when he started bowing his head a bit, we asked was he ok and he said he felt amazing. A few seconds later he was on the ground. We brought him to some steps and got him to sit down and we got him some water. He had trouble walking for a few minutes and said he didn't remember anything, he just remembered waking up on the ground.

He faints when he gets injections as well.

Could it have been nerves?

After about 10 minutes he said he was ready to go in and he had a preety good night, he was in the zone for the whole thing!

Also, his comedown was *very* abrupt. While mine tapered down over the course of a few hours (and my other mate, who was his first time taking MDMA was rolling for well over 5 hours haha) his just suddenly ended on the dance floor.

Any advice? He told me he slept like a baby and feels generally ok today.


I got a text from him describing the situation. Any ideas?

"It was so weird, I couldn't really describe it to you properly yesterday cause I didn't want you to have a bad buzz but the experience was so strange. When we were in the queue and I said oooh I'm comming up and then i grabbed your arm, it felt like a massive explosion of energy and well being in my stomach and it spread over my body rediculously quickly - so quickly that i felt kind of sick and I didn't want to talk to anyone. And then you said are you ok to me, and it kinda sent me overboard, I just thought "oh wait maybe I'm not ok" and then I just wake up on the gorund after having a dream that I can't for the life of me remember now It really set my night up to a bad start"

edit: he's not on any medication
 
I don't know if he's sensitive to MDMA, but he could be. The pill weighs 0.19g which is 190mg. I don't know what proportion of that is MDMA, but one comment says around 100mg. 100mg is alot of MDMA for somebody who has only done it once before and perhaps sensitive., especially all at once. I'm not an expert, and please anybody correct me if I'm wrong, but it just sounds like he took too much.
 
Yea maybe it was too much. My other friend who took the same pill had a great time (it was his very first time) with no issues.


The guy who fainted took a blue diamond for his first roll which is supposedly a bit stronger than the cocks and had a brilliant roll.
 
The first time me and a mate did mdma he took a bit too much, and at one point was just lying on the ground not talking. I freaked out, but after about 20 seconds he got up and was like sorry, I was just so overwhelmed by the feeling that I didn't want to talk.
I've taken it 5 times. Out of those I've vomited 2, and tried to vomit once, all on the come up. I tend to get overwhelmed, get anxiety, get edgy, but as soon as I've either vomited or tried, I'm full peak :)
I've just accepted that it's probably gonna be like that for me, but it's SO worth that 5-10 minutes of slight panic for the hours and hours of amazing raving I do after. The only issue for me is getting spotted by staff and getting kicked out for being in a state :/
 
If he was getting anxiety coming up that could of fucked him up too. To be honest when I roll I do it indoors, have a proper gaming session with my mates. When you get huge bursts of energy it makes you feel slightly feint, but I'm usually sitting down so its cool. Might be that
 
You sure your pill was clean?

I had gotten this tanish yankee at phish this year that was a straight bomb, and i was seconds away from passing out in the middle of the show. It was terrible.
 
Big)Sky said:
You sure your pill was clean?

I had gotten this tanish yankee at phish this year that was a straight bomb, and i was seconds away from passing out in the middle of the show. It was terrible.
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Yes, hes sure the pill was clean. He fainted when you said is he alright, it looks like he faints when he gets nervous by the sounds of the injection etc.

100mg is not a huge dose for a first timer, not enough to make him faint anyway.
 
I almost fainted once on my 2nd pill, it hit me so hard I started to black out, but then quickly came to and it felt amazing after that. So I figure next time I'll take a half after my first. I always take a half with new pills anyways just to be safe.
 
Did he fast before dropping? I've made the mistake of taking my pill on a completely empty stomach (as in, didn't eat for 8 or more hours) and so by the end of my roll I was depleted of nutrients and energy, with no appetite. That leads to fainting. If he had gone all day without food in his stomach and then put a lot of MDMA in his body (which is intense during the come up), that may have been why he blacked out.
 
Those pills are really strong and clean (I've had them) the come up for me was pretty fast also so I can understand that if your not used to the feeling how it could be a bit too much for you.

Passing out on the come up isnt normal though so its something to be very wary about - maybe it was a combination of things, nerves + drugs etc.

Had he eaten anything?

If the rest of the night went ok and he had no other effects - it certainly sounds like he passed out from the rush.
 
He told me he hadn't eaten since 4pm, and we took the pill at around 10.30pm. That, combined with nerves (he faints when he gets routine injections as well) and a crowded queue with a rough-ish crowd might have been too much for him.

His first ever pill had been 2 months before and it was a Blue Diamond (Ecstasydata link) which I had assumed were stronger. His experience on this pill was perfect for a first timer. He experienced no anxiety on his comeup (I did...I HAD to go outside, I was getting warm and was freaking out a bit, it passed within a few minutes though) and was rolling all night.
 
http://www.algy.com/anxiety/files/barlow.html said:
Nervous Collapse

Many people are frightened about what might happen to them as a result of their symptoms, perhaps because of some belief that their nerves might become exhausted and they may collapse. As discussed earlier, the fight/flight response is produced chiefly through activity in the sympathetic nervous system which is counteracted by the parasympathetic nervous system. The parasympathetic nervous system is, in a sense, a safeguard to protect against the possibility that the sympathetic nervous system may become "worn out." Nerves are not like electrical wires and anxiety cannot wear out, damage or use up nerves. The absolute worst that could happen during a panic attack is that an individual could pass out at which point the sympathetic nervous system would stop its activity and the person would regain consciousness within a few seconds. However, actually passing out as a result of the fight/flight response is extremely rare, and if it does occur, it is adaptive since it is a way of stopping the sympathetic nervous system from going "out of control."
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Sound about right?
 
Look, you all can call me an idiot but thru my exp it all mostly mind frame. medically on MDMA keep cool and hydrated, otherwise is in ya head. Back when i started and had my first bad roll I was old by a freind, in all seriousness, that baking soda and water would fix everything, only downside was it would stop my roll and i couldnt get it back. I was so freaked out that i agreed anyway and it worked wonders. I have implied this method countless times on others and it has never NOT worked.
 
^ Baking soda and water?

You avin a laugh?

Sure water will keep your core temperature down.. good for when you're pillin..

But Baking Soda and water will not kill your roll.

Also.. anxiety, although yes it's "in your head".. is normally the result of a physiological action which you can't just snap yourself out of.
 
Shazbuckle said:
He told me he hadn't eaten since 4pm, and we took the pill at around 10.30pm. That, combined with nerves (he faints when he gets routine injections as well) and a crowded queue with a rough-ish crowd might have been too much for him.

His first ever pill had been 2 months before and it was a Blue Diamond (Ecstasydata link) which I had assumed were stronger. His experience on this pill was perfect for a first timer. He experienced no anxiety on his comeup (I did...I HAD to go outside, I was getting warm and was freaking out a bit, it passed within a few minutes though) and was rolling all night.
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I would hazard a guess that the lack of food and the initial rush from these pills were simply too much for him (and his nerves). These are one hell of a pill though - and in my honest opinion shit all over the Green Rockstars that people were ranting on about.

I had a hell of a tolerance when I got these and they had me fkd - eyes going one way, jaw the other etc. If your not used to the feeling then I can understand how these could have you floored.
 
Thanks a million for all the replies guys. He's read the thread and decided that next time he does mdma (in about 2-3 months time) he'll make sure he has a place to sit for the comeup, and have a bit of food in him as well.

These are one hell of a pill though - and in my honest opinion shit all over the Green Rockstars that people were ranting on about.
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Never tried the Green Rockstars, but man I loved these little things! Apart from this little incident we had an incredibly memorable night on them, and we only had one each (we are all relatively new to the drug). 3 best friends and the music ;) After the gig we walked about for an hour and had some awesome chats. Quality night.
 
That sucks, at least your mate had a good night in the end though! Just reminded me.. I had some mdma at a party a few weeks ago. I felt amazing but passed out and was apparently foaming from the mouth.. wtf is that about anyone? why would I foam?!
 
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