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Lack of THC affecting sleeping & eating patterns

Oh well, don't write checks your ass can't cash- back on topic. The appetite thing was most pronounced during the first 5 days of my withdrawal. I agree, the first time wasn't as bad as the last 2. Smoking was much more frequent and higher in volume. Consequently, the withdrawals were pretty fucking shittay.
 
cire113 said:
21p, how childish are you
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Says the guy who claims to be a millionaire. I think it's pretty hilarious.

But please, cut the shit out. You've offered nothing more then a cluttered up thread. Your opinion doesn't hold much ground when it is based on nothing more then assumptions. Please READ some things this time, don't say you have when you draw conlusions which don't make sense.
 
In his defense, I remember saying some pretty ridiculous shit that I REALLY regretted regarding DOC in the 'other' threads. Some of those comments were directed towards you, Blowmonkey. I'm sorry. Incidentally :), I was under duress from MJ withdrawal. Mania and obsessive compulsiveness were hallmarks of this period, and not eating frequently excaberated the symptoms. Eventually they too dissipated into a hellish memory of what I want to avoid in the future.
 
I give up arguing with OCD weed addicts who cant handle w/d

and u know from ur peristence it shows that u really are indeed hurting from probably one of the easiest addicting substances to withdrawal from...
 
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Another fantastic PM from Cire;

are you just mad that i have alot of money and your poor? That you have to suffer thru real life and cant handle taking drugs..
Me failing school is irrelevant because i dont even need to bein school jackass...Have fun with your pathetic drug free life, and the paws...
I think its time to take alot of drugs and feel unbelievable
Let me guess your white trash who suffers from OCD, and several other mental disturbances and you have no friends at all, so you must have alot of time on you rhands to think about how much your life sucks!



I agree 100% with Cire, marijuana is one of the most benign substances on the face of the planet when used responsibly. Its social perception is exactly what makes the drug so fucking hard to quit for me. I see no harm- "look! It's legal, it's relatively safe, and I can sustain a successful career while smoking!" That's the pitfall, tarpit, whatever you wanna call it. When I stop smoking and experience withdrawal, the physical effects are amplified (imo) by social consequences and self-realization. When a person voluntarily stunts the expression of themselves, forward progress (whatever that is) is impeded. If the smoke veil is lifted, it's like a million thoughts rush in random tangents through my brain---overload. The THC coating my brain cells won't allow proper verbalization/actualization of these thoughts, and I feel crazy for awhile. But sanity slowly comes creeping back in. It's easy to see how sleeping problems can be related!
 
Blowmonkey said:
How is this relevant? People will have problems with the withdrawals regardless. People here sound like a broken record comparing the withdrawal symptoms of one drug with the other.. Cannabis withdrawals are real and they are worse for some people then for others. Quit talking it down.
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Wow, my post went right over your head. Try reading it one more time.

psychotiKK said:
it all depends how much you smoke and how you feel about the drug psychologically. Someone who smokes all day and loves to get high is going to have more trouble stopping then somone who smokes only at parties and doesn't find it to be that great, or likes something better such as alcohol.
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Did you even read my post? It seems like you read the first sentence then simply went off to argue with me.
 
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Blowmonkey said:
YOU, starcommanderx and psychotiKK were the ones who brough it up in the first place, NOONE was saying anything along the lines of "cannabis withdrawal is so much more severe than opiate withdrawals", there's NO reason to be bringing it up, the comparison is ridiculous.
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The point to my post wasn't to compare withdrawals, but to tell of my personal experience. You can't be so uptight and sensitive about people saying "withdrawals" from cannabis are mild. Can you honestly say that withdrawals from cannabis are severe? The reason it is broughten up is because some people here sound like they are dieing from their supposed "withdrawals." I don't doubt that they will be uncomfortable, and I'm not saying there is no such thing as experiencing withdrawals from cannabis, but it seriously can't be that bad. I didn't think a couple sentences of my personal experiences would turn into people getting upset.
 
21p said:
One more thing to add, sorry....
This is the same Cire who is a "millionaire"---- (posted a few days ago)

I live with my parents and they cover my expenses Im 21 but still in college...

They said as long as im in school they will support me and they are extremely demanding...
I failed last....

So, your parents are millionaires and you're addicted to oxycontin (50mg/day) while failing out of school? And we're the weak-minded ones?
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Yeah, since weed is more addictive then oxycodone 8)

I have to go to the methadone clinic because these marijuana withdrawals are intense..

(this post is only intended if you are saying that an addiction to opiates/opioids makes one "weak minded")
 
Au contraire, the door swings both ways. First, why are we discussing "weak-mindedness?" Weakness is a relative concept and has no solidified meaning unless applied to an ideal of physical strength. The comparison of THC to opiates was intended as a degradation, but if we must play ball....

One might argue those who become addicted to crack or oxy are missing 'pieces of the puzzle' b/c they allowed themselves to get hooked on such a heavy chemical in the first place. (Rush Limbaugh is a perfect example, rofl) Oxycontin/crack/meth is much stronger than THC and has the potential to completely "wipe you out." The social stigma attached to cocaine or heroin is worse, and tends to dissuade some people from allowing themselves a habit. Yet a percentage seem to defy logic and say "Fuck it, I know oxycontin has the potential to completely ruin my life, but I'm gonna do it regularly anyways."

I will say that the majority of folks I have known who became addicted to coke/oxy/meth had serious familial/mental problems to begin with, and the drugs turned them into complete messes/headcases before it was all said and done (and believe me, it often ends in death/insanity/wasted lives). My cousin went completely bonkers after he began doing coke frequently. He now thinks he is the president of Guatemala.

I don't agree with this in all cases, however. I think some relatively sane people with a propensity for addiction wind up on a hard drug of choice that is instinctually satisfying. Drug education can prevent folks from getting addicted to some of the 'headliners' like methamphetamine imo. "Weak-mindedness" is a cliche'd term that has no relavance when applied to our conversation. We're talking about the propensity for addiction, and as they say, "different strokes for different folks."

As you can tell, I'm completely and utterly insane- I like it like that.
 
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Yeah - I get this as well. Luckily I still have a quarter...if I run out for even a day ( i smoke about 4 times a day, have been for almost 2 months straight now..) I dread the day I run out, gonna be rough. I sorta-kinda use it for my bipolar too.
 
That must be it, its not heroin so you cant withdrawel from it how convenient.
 
I'll edit some crap out later. Everyone should take a break from posting.
 
21p said:
Yet a percentage seem to defy logic and say "Fuck it, I know oxycontin has the potential to completely ruin my life, but I'm gonna do it regularly anyways."
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That's the thing.. Do you think someone tells themselves they are going to get addicted? No.. of course not. People say, "No, not me. I won't get addicted." Any drug or activity can ruin a person's life. Hell, you can pick up a gambling addiction and lose all your money and home. That is not even a drug and it can ruin a life moreso then an opiate addict. Anyone who gets addicted to ANYTHING is NEVER "weak minded." I know you weren't the one who first said that, but I'm saying that to all. The best of people with the strongest willpower can become addicted to drugs. It's happened. Let's forget the pointless bickering and get a bong. (I'm funneh =D )
 
deltan1nethc said:
Yeah - I get this as well. Luckily I still have a quarter...if I run out for even a day ( i smoke about 4 times a day, have been for almost 2 months straight now..) I dread the day I run out, gonna be rough. I sorta-kinda use it for my bipolar too.
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I used to be the same way actually. I would be in a bad mood if I was running low and didn't have enough money to get more. I would act really strange and generally be a dick to everyone I came in contact with. It would even make it a bit harder to sleep at night, haha. Thankfully it's not like that anymore. The best way is to cut down your usage. Either don't smoke every day or smoke less each day. A 1/2 oz of chronic/dank/nugs/high grade/whatever you want to call it would last me 3 weeks at my worst. Now a 1/4 oz can last me up to 2 months, and this is even smoking my girlfriend out a few days a week. I can easily skip a day or two of not smoking. About a month ago I went five days without smoking because I had bronchitis and I wanted to treat myself good so I would get better quicker. Understand that I am mostly a daily cannabis smoker myself. I love weed and don't mind investing a bit in glass. I have a zong, a Pure ( http://www.bluelight.ru/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=34086&cat=500&ppuser=64635 ), a bubbler, a Kaos, (one of my first bongs; thick as HELL but has no female and is a grommet bong) a spoon, and four GonG bowls consiting of: two local blown bowls, a German RooR Crown bowl, and a single peice ashcatching bowl. I've owned plenty of glass peices, but of course I've had many break or got stolen.
 
I didn't read more than like 3 posts, but THC also has an upside... it's preventing me from going nuts during benzo withdrawal, whereas I'd feel even more crappy without it.
 
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strange weed intesifies how i feel from benzo withdrawal and i feel way worse.....

Like that 10 pound weight on your head feeling and anxiety just intesifies, this is usually when i eat a xanax lol... im down to 1mg a day its not that bad
 
This thread is quite useful for me. I'm a 19 year old girl and have been smoking 'regularly' (meaning, more than once a week) since i was around 16. However, since starting uni at the age of 18, i have smoked everyday while i'm there. When I go home, i find it easy to not smoke, as i'm in 'home-mode'. This year was particularly bad, because although it could have been the same last year, this time i actually noticed the psychological impact is has had on me. When at uni, i am a complete bum, not motivated to work, or go out. My life was literally revolving around weed. I never saw it as that bad, as one of the girls i'm living with is also a heavy smoker, so we fuel each other on. Right now i'm in 'home-mode' so it's a good reflecting time. Even tho i am still smoking maybe once every 2 days, I feel so much better. I am starting to sleep a little better, but sleep problems remain. A really nice change is that i'm starting to dream again (ok, REMEMBERING my dreams), which I have greatly missed. At my worst, i would get through a 1/4 a week. When i'm good, that would last me 2, maybe a bit more, weeks. So, my near year resolution? CUT DOWN ON THE WEED! I feel really positive about this. I was in denial when everyone told me that my de-motivation was due to the weed. On some level they were probably right. The only thing i'm not certain of is being able to turn down a J if i really felt that is wasn't good for me. OK, that is not likely at the moment, but let's take each step at a time. I also seem to be eating a lot less when i don't smoke, but sometimes a don't eat much when i smoke too. The munchies confuse me! Anyway, yes, there are withdrawals, but i find the hardest one to deal with is just facing reality and being part of the world. Once u get used to that, it feels really good and u feel like a person again!
 
psychotiKK said:
I used to be the same way actually. I would be in a bad mood if I was running low and didn't have enough money to get more. I would act really strange and generally be a dick to everyone I came in contact with. It would even make it a bit harder to sleep at night
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thats me everyday when i havent smoked yet, and after i have smoked i am 180 degrees different from what i am if i dont smoke, its probably cause im addicted, but people that say there aren't any withdrawl symptoms or they are only for the weakminded, but then go ahead and tell me that its nothing compared to heroin, well whos the mother fucker that is weak minded enough to try heroin or any other drug or enough to get addicted to it, thats is weak-minded. fuck any of you saying there are no weed withdrawls i dont care if your a fucking heroin addict or a crack addict your a fucking idiot and can suck my dick!
 
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