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Kratom tincture/15 ml/veteran/ Economically ineffective, and impotent.

Kratom bomb

Bluelighter
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Gender:male
Age:20
Height:6'3
Weight:370 lbs.
Experience:Veteran

A few days ago I tried some kratom tincture, I had wanted to for quite some time. I had heard from many sources that it wasn't cost effective or potent. I have heard that full spectrum tinctures are good though. I was blessed by my vendor and received double my order for free. I ordered 4 oz. premium bali, and 15 ml. tincture. They sent me 8 oz. and 30 ml. no extra cost.

2:00p.m. ingested 10 drops

2:15p.m. ingested 20 more drops

3:00p.m. I reached 50 drops after doing 10, 20, 30, 40, 50. Totaling 150 drops.

3:00-5:00p.m. I was consuming multiple dropper-fulls at a time and eventually poured the remaining tincture into orange juice and consumed.

5:00p.m. I was done consuming the 15 ml. of kratom tincture.

5:00-7:00p.m. I felt something like a kratom buzz but it was too mellow and short lived. It was basically just a thresh-hold feeling.

7:00p.m. the feeling subsided quickly.

I was disappointed with the cost and potency of the product. The alkaloid content was not displayed on the website or the bottle, it was also not specified if it was full spectrum or not. I don't think it was though. It has occurred to me that maybe consuming it over a 3 hour period is the problem, and that maybe if I consume all 15 ml. is would be better. For this experiment I was being careful because I had never had tincture before.

It is also relevant that I consume 28 grams of premium bali recreationally.

Tell me what you guys think. I wrote another trip report about this but it was closed because it lacked detail.
 
My feelings on Kratom were that it was always dissapointing, and in order to get the desired effects for me it was far too expensive.

Unless you've a Kratom tree in your backyard, I'd say don't get into it.

It has been said to be helpful in withdrawing from opiates.

As for your trip report it was adaquate, and you titled it correctly (HUGE peeve of mine) ;).

Thanks for the report!

Thou
 
I'm already deep into kratom.
I get a potent product at low prices.
I am not opiate naive.
The effects I get when ingesting an ounce of premium bali kratom greatly surpass conventional opioids/opiates.
I've been doing this for a very long time.
Kratom is definitely worth it.
You just need the right vendor.
Mine doubled my order a day before my birthday:)
 
Oh so you were just talking about a specific preperation being inadaquate?

I didn't catch that.

Just a reminder no mentioning sources. Thanks.
 
I didn't, and I know that. I would never want to endanger my vendor.
Yes it was just the kratom tincture that was inadaquate.
Premium bali powder is always potent and cost effective though:)
 
Tinctures and extracts are a waste of money when it comes to kratom. The plain finely powdered leaves are much more effective. I'm not sure why the extracts don't work but they never seem effective. I have even tried making extracts myself from good source material and they don't work either.
 
You know what's strange? When I ordered 4 oz. and 15 ml. of tincture. They sent me 8 oz. and 30 ml. of tincture. I think they were compensating for sending me kratom that wasn't fresh. The kratom I got was more grey than green in color and isn't very strong. Eating 35 grams of this is about 1/4 as potent as eating 28 grams of my usual.
 
Same here. I have been enjoying kratom for years. It's great as long as you know your sources. And tolerance can be kept at minimal as long as you have the right diet and exercise frequently. Extracts/UEI can be amazing time to time but it can ruin your tolerance pretty quickly and then you won't be able to get great effects from plain leaf all of a sudden. Bali is basically a blend of indos. Many people seem to think that it is a particular strain called Bali but it is not. It is a blend of indonesian strains. Anyways, I love the green malaysian. My favorite strain!
 
I think it needs to be said that Kratom works well for opiate naive individuals. I have experienced opiates besides Kratom a half dozen times or so, kratom maybe a dozen times and I still enjoy kratom but I'm going to look for a higher grade than straight bali because bali tends to give me a lot of nausea.

2-3 grams of a strong variety has had me feeling great whereas 2-3 grams of bali has me feeling just okay but nauseous as well.
 
Totally agree tincture is crap. But Kratom is a weirdly individual thing. I know someone who swears by tincture.
Do people generally find extracts work better combined with powdered/crushed leaf, than on their own?
... If so, maybe the same would work with tincture...
 
You know what's strange? When I ordered 4 oz. and 15 ml. of tincture. They sent me 8 oz. and 30 ml. of tincture. I think they were compensating for sending me kratom that wasn't fresh. The kratom I got was more grey than green in color and isn't very strong. Eating 35 grams of this is about 1/4 as potent as eating 28 grams of my usual.
Dodgy vendor. Only mentioning sources vaguely here with a view to harm reduction: IMO, vendors who offer massive discounts or give away loads of freebies are trying to offload degraded or otherwise substandard stock. But that's just my view.
 
That is exactly what I thought. Why all the comments about mentioning a vendor? I have simple indicated that they exist, and are reliable. I have not said a word or name. I'm not a noob. I know what I can say.
 
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