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Kratom - Semi Exp - New Year's Kratom Chillout

crOOk

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New Year's Kratom Chillout

On december 31st I decided to go to a friend's party. I ate like I always do, maybe even more than usual cause some alcohol was supposed to run down my throat that night and my tollerance is extremely weak, practically non existant.

I was completely sober when a friend who was supposed to pick me up came over at 7:30pm. We hung around for a while and decided to leave around 8:00pm. I insufflated 5mg of Ritalin and we left. 15 minutes later we arrived at my buddys house who was gonna throw the party. Damn we were way too early, noone else had arrive and he had told everyone to come between 10:00 and 10:30pm.

So we went ahead to smoke a small joint. I had my first beer and we listened to music until all the other people arrived. The night went on, I had another 5 joints and maybe 4 beers in the course of the night. I also had one line of coke at around 12:30am.

The coke was really shitty though, there was lots of amphetamine in it, everyone else who had done it had extremely dilated pupils and seemed really paranoid.

I left the party with 3 friends at around 5:00am and we went to another party, Goa and Hardcore. They decorated the place really nice, I was very impressed to say the least. But the people there sucked, very aggressive mood, very tense, hardcore party like. We left 10 minutes after arrival. Too bad our taxi had already left. An hour later we arrived at one of my friends' house.

My friend L than proceeded to lay 4 large lines of coke, better coke this time. I hesitated at first because I actually wanted to catch some sleep later on, but was soon convinced to do another line as well. So we talked. Me and L left our two friends alone at around 7:00am, I got myself another taxi and went home.

At around 7:05 I arrived home and decided I could not go to sleep, yet. Godamn amphetamines. The time seemed right for another Kratom experience. I thought about it for like 2 seconds, would it mix with the other stuff I took? Yes it would, so I prepared 12g of Kratom extract and put it in a glass with hot water.

Oh my god, it tasted like ass! I remembered it to be a little bitter, but I never had problems chugging it down. This time it was really nasty! At 7:47am I had chugged it all down and at around 8:05 or 8:10am I was hit already! "Blow" was running and I was smoking another big one with my headphones on. I still managed to get up and type something into the IRC channel:

[8:16am] <@cr00k> well im not asleep yet
[8:16am] <@cr00k> but the kratom hiz me very very hard
[8:16am] <@cr00k> NICE
[8:16am] <@cr00k> dont think its the pot
[8:17am] <@cr00k> so theres sth about coke & kratom (kinda speedball)
[8:17am] <@cr00k> or alcohol & kratom
[8:17am] <@cr00k> i had little cocaine though
[8:17am] <@cr00k> 2 good lines
[8:17am] <@cr00k> and like 4 beers
[8:17am] <@cr00k> so not very much
[8:17am] <@cr00k> lotsa joints
[8:17am] <@cr00k> and 12g kratom
[8:17am] <@cr00k> oh man the kratom
[8:18am] <@cr00k> is nice very opiate like, together with the alcohol as i suspect
[8:18am] <@cr00k> im getting very sick doing this, have to watch movie, blow
[8:18am] <@cr00k> very sick
[8:18am] <@cr00k> dizzy

As you probably noticed, I was getting sick while doing this. I blamed the movement for it. I already knew this phenomenom from one of my previous Kratom experiences at 20g and another Poppy pod tea experience.

Anyway I layed back down and thought: Wicked, didn't you have to go take a piss after you drank this? I realized, I actually never went to take that piss and there was no need anymore neither. Uppers usually do the opposite to me. This got me kind of interested in my bladder, so I went downstairs to check it out.

Why was the need to piss suddenly gone? I really wasn't even able to piss anymore! "Funny" I thought and went back upstairs. Now this made me really sick. Eventually the sweating kicked in. In the next half hour or so, I would start sweating so hard, that my hair was actually completely wet!

As soon as I got back into the room again and started looking for the trash can, my stomach content fought it's way outside and spread all over my carpet. Fuck! Now I had to clean the carpet with all this Kratom sickness. I couldn't ask one of my parents because I had already started smoking the doobie in my room.

Anyway I proceeded to clean the carpet, did very good work to my surprise. I puked 5 more times or so and finally made my way back downstairs in order to empty the trash can. Unbelievable it is to me how I could manage all that. Before I layed back down on my bed, I actually succeeded to crawl to my PC again and type this into the IRC:

[8:31am] <@cr00k> pukled
[8:31am] <@cr00k> sh9t
[8:31am] <@cr00k> sick+
[8:31am] <@cr00k> not bad
[8:31am] <@cr00k> no worry
[8:31am] <@cr00k> butsuvks
[8:36am] <@cr00k> hair wet if sewt
[8:36am] <@cr00k> seweat
[8:36am] <@cr00k> puking
[8:36am] <@cr00k> shuldn have moved

Ok, this pretty much speaks for itself I think.
I paused the movie, at this point it made no sense at all to keep watching it, since even opening my eyes was pretty tough. I grabbed my MP3 Player, crawled back to my bed, puked again into the empty trash can and switched on "Air - Talkie Walkie". How I did all this - It will always remain a mystery to me.

So back down I went and the actual Kratom experience started. Some of the effects I'm about to describe I already felt while puking or even before. But the actual euphoria hit me after I had puked.

I recall the next 3 hours as being very nice. I found myself in a state somewhere between sleep and conscious thinking. Sometimes I thought about something and it would connect to a picture like memories that pop up through association when you think of something.

These pictures were not my memories though. For example I would think of a person and a picture of the party last night would pop into my mind with me talking to that person. Just that the person wasn't even on the party in reality... Very weird. I guess everyone knows the state right before he falls asleep or the feeling of being half asleep in the morning after having woke up 5 times or more already.

Also, while listening to the music (Air) it sometimes felt like parts of the music, were coming from another source. I once thought there's people standing around me laughing quiet loud, most probably at me. When I opened my eyes, noone was there and I realized it was just the music. Anyway I couldn't really "think" of anything, it was just very lose associativity I guess.

Very pleasant. Doing anything, even if it was the easiest task like scratching myself or just opening my eyes, was almost impossible in these three hours and still very hard afterwards. It took extreme willpower to move. Sensual input was generally felt as being distracting or unpleasant.

I also thought about writing a report about it, lots of details that I could include came to my mind and were usually forgot the instant I stopped thinking about them. Very frustrating. So my memory of the actual experience seems to be very cloudy. But still I had a pleasant time and this combination (Alcohol + Kratom) might come in very handy in case I want to forget about my troubles one day. These were my last words before I finally passed out and slept for another 7 hours until 6:37pm.

[11:37am] <@cr00k> just awoke of a tranc3e state
[11:37am] <@cr00k> couldnt make notes
[11:37am] <@cr00k> but very nice
[11:40am] <@cr00k> OMG still sick when i move
[11:41am] <@cr00k> my heart starts beating and sweat cpome pouring out of every pore

At 6:37pm the joint was still lying there. I finished watching Blow and every single toke brought back waves of nausea and pleasure. This could also be connected to the alcohol intake though.
Today I still feel very calm and relaxed and enjoy listening to very smooth music.

The sickness is completely gone and I feel hungry again. Appetite was present, eating during the experience was possible, but both eating and drinking made me sick in the first hours and sometimes led to more puking.
Have fun with Kratom and order some as long as you can. I'm sure the stuff will be outlawed sooner or later, my guess is sooner.

crOOk
 
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amazing report, im just stunned, thats a great report, cheers!!

peace..
 
Yikes, paragraphs? let me just go fix that...

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Wow, nice report! I'm wondering about the vomiting though, since it dehydrates the body, and I imagine you didn't drink much water after the coke and alcohol either, did you find the day after a nightmare?
 
@Mean Girl
Thanks for the paragraphs, I'll remember it in the future.

I usually drink enough water to stay dehydrated. I only had about 4 beers and even took a gallon of water to the party in case my friend didn't have any which he did.
And when I got home I also started drinking right away. I'm always very careful about this. It's probably because I do lots of sports and therefore sweat unbelievably much, I kinda have to watch it all the time, I drink like 5 liters plain water at least a day. In the first hour after I get up, I do cardio and have 3 liters in 45min. :)

I found out that the negative hangover aspects seem to be dehydration more than anything else, be it with alcohol or any other drug.

So what I want to say is, I had enough water the whole night and before, so not drinking anything after the vomiting was allright. I had the night to recover until January 2nd and that day was great. beautiful. No headache, no sickness whatsoever and a very mellow mood. Forgot to include that. I was still capable of writing that report so I guess I wasn't mentally slowed down all that much either.
I'm sure I'll do it again, the combination Alcohol & Kratom that is. You need lots of time though...

crOOk
 
I had a couple drinks plus around 7-10g of kratom once and I felt really fucking vile. Nauseous and overstimulated and yet sedated at the same time. Didn't puke but I really wished I hadn't done it. Put me right off kratom maybe forever.
 
@hydrobromide
If someone doses carefully, it's me. :D But still - Thanks for the warning!

@VictorBorge
Maybe you have done it at a bad time... Like did you have everything at hand in order for you to relax and not have to move? Did you move too much?
I have to admit I haven't had any stimulation at all this time, probabyl I was already very tired, I don't know. On the other hand, I did some coke/amphetamines and Ritalin, too. Maybe I'm just not as sensitive to the stimulating effects. Who knows? I felt really sick as well, but I still liked it because there was lots of pleasure and carelessness involved, kinda Opium like. I guess I mentioned that before...

crOOk
 
^^ Yes, not moving helps, but I generally like to be at least somewhat mobile while I'm on a drug. I guess high doses of kratom just aren't my thing.
 
If being mobile is your thing, then high Kratom doses are definitely not your cup of tea as far as I know!:D

Btw, when can I consider myself experienced? Think I have to do some reading in the FAQ or whatever...
Only if I've taken them all? I'd consider myself the most experienced person I know (in life, not in web :D), at least regarding the range of substances I have tried, maybe not the amount of coke I snorted, fortunately!

crOOk
 
I've also had trouble mixing alcohol and kratom, with a few beers during the initial onset. Felt quite pukey like you did. I can handle alcohol a few hours into the kratom experience, just never before or during the initial phase. Grapefruit juice also made me nauseous. No potentiation at all.
Benzos and weed however, are great potentiators of kratom. I've noticed it gets harder and harder to gulp down kratom as time goes by. I haven't had it for a couple of months now but I can distinctly remember that taste, which wasn't really that bad the first few times.
 
Lol, the whole reason I did the Kratom was not to take any benzos that night . :)
But still, weed seemed to potentiate it a lot! I think I mentioned it, I took almost a day for my joint and every drag was like - whoa, I guess I don't need to describe this any further. Let me just say it wasn't all pleasant, but definitely increased some of the effects. Which effects exactly is hard to say, I'm not very experienced with Kratom, I mixed with lots of substances and the memory is a little cloudy, so with anything more I say I would be at risk to cause confusion.

crOOk
 
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