Kratom Reduction Capsules vs Washing Powder

[Asparagus_Prince]

I'm a Kratom user and I'm in this routine of using it most days for a 2 month period followed by a 1-month detox/break from it. And when I approach my break I come up with a reduction plan for a week or two and I typically do a pretty good job of sticking to the plan.

And during my reduction periods I've noticed I am MUCH more disciplined if I use the capsules as opposed to powder/washing it down (which is what I usually do). If I'm washing during a reduction period I am WAY more likely to behave like an addict... I'll tell myself "Just one more dose won't hurt" or "I'll start being good tomorrow". You fellow junkies know the score.

But for whatever reason discipline is easier when I'm taking the capsules. Almost downright easy, actually. I stick to my reduction plan without much temptation.

WHY is this? This completely fucks with me because I don't have Guess 1 and I'm a gotta-know-the-reason control freak.

I don't think this is related to some sort of psychological addiction. For example, snorting a line (which I like to call "breathing in the magic"). Or that satisfaction of a needle's plunge. In fact I consider the flavor of Kratom to be slightly disagreeable and I don't exactly look forward to the actual process of washing it down.

It's also not a brand thing. No matter the brand I use it's the same thing. And I always use white vein maeng-da.

Does anyone else relate to this? And/or... does anyone have any theories as to why this is? I'm wallowing in mad curiosity here!

 

[daturetard]

It definitely seems easier with the capsules as they give a small amount of standardization in a drug that almost always gives a different effect based on various factors, especially with different strains having different levels of MIT and Actives in general, it's almost impossible to get the exact same dose twice even with the capsules, but it's a lot easier to cut down in general with them ive found too.

 

[chippermonk]

I have never tried buying or filling my own capsules but I can see how standardization by weight would be good. For me the problem is that when washing, some measured spoons "accidentally" end up a little bit more heaping or well-packed. A little more of a mound on top can be a lot. My preference would be to fill my own capsules though. Guess I need to get a scale and capsule filler as scooped volume is so inconsistent.
Nice that you can be disciplined enough to take those one month breaks. My approach is to try not to do it more than 2 or 3 times a week, with a occasional week long breaks. But this has started leaving me kind of dissatisfied on clean days, though not withdrawing. Maybe I should cut back a bit. Something isn't working right and capsules might be the trick.

 

[Asparagus_Prince]

but it's a lot easier to cut down in general with them ive found too.

Cool thanks. Nice to know I'm not the only one.

 

[Asparagus_Prince]

some measured spoons "accidentally" end up a little bit more heaping or well-packed. A little more of a mound on top can be a lot.

This is a different issue but, yes, I've noticed this is a problem. There have been times I take, say, a level tablespoon but it just seemed like I was swallowing a lot more than the previous time. Due to the accidental packing you mentioned.

Nice that you can be disciplined enough to take those one month breaks.

Well, it's not like I'm happy with my routine. Taking it on 90% of days during my use-phase isn't anything to brag about. And my use typically keeps edging up and up until I decide it's time to prepare for a break. I guess I AM glad that I'm able to do that. But I think the more ideal approach is what you mentioned... perhaps twice per week. And/or giving myself multi-day breaks every week. I have NOT been disciplined enough to do that.

Maybe I could be disciplined like that if I went to the capsules. I'm cheap I guess. It's so much more cost effective buying the powder. But this is something I'll have to consider now that you've accidentally given me the idea.

 

[chippermonk]

The other thing I'm thinking about is the size of my dose size when I do take it. I'm starting to realize that a smaller dose actually can be enough to improve my mood. It may not be as big of a high but it can be enough to simply feel better, and there is little less of a come-down hangover with lower doses. I'm thinking capsules might help me with that. But I admit it's tough to stick to those smaller doses, I'm trying.
Yeah, I'm cheap re capsules too. Bulk powder is cheaper. Plus my preferred online supplier doesn't sell in capsules. But I know I can buy the empty capsules bulk for fairly cheap and get a capsule filler to hopefully be exact about it.