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(Kratom) + Mushrooms + Cannabis | First time combined | For adrenaline junkies only!!

Seattle_Stranger

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As you may have recognized, I've been discussing my intentions to put together a mixture of organic substances to create a safe, natural and gentle alternative to dangerous and otherwise uncertain synthetics. I'm not bashing synths, nor am I trying to start the nature vs chemists discussion. I personally prefer natural drugs, especially historically proven ones, for personal reasons. My intention is NOT to recreate an 'ecstasy' experience or to develop a replacement. It is to create a unique experience with certain effects that I desire that come from natural sources that I personally put together.

The experience I'm looking for would be euphoric, stimulated and mildly visual, but most importantly, safe, non-toxic and 100% natural. As a habitual kratom user, I find kratom to deliver euphoric and stimulating effects, as well as empathy. With a low dose of mushrooms, I find lights to get brighter, colors deeper, music sounds a little better, and maybe some very slight visual effects. I figured putting these two together would deliver most of the effects I'm looking for. Once I experimented with mixing the two, I plan to take my findings and decide what to add or subtract. Here's my experience:


-0:40 - 400mg cimetidine (Tagamet) taken for kratom potentiation. In the end, I plan to use something natural for enzyme inhibition, but for now at the lack of something better, this has proven results in my experience so I will use it.

0:00 - ~8g kratom, premium commercial bali ingested w/ orange juice, one big gulp

0:10 - I wait a couple minutes to be sure the kratom plans to stay put (I'm experienced enough now to know it sometimes doesn't!). After deciding I feel just fine, I eat one moderate sized home-grown African Transkei mushroom, the biggest one in the bag, probably weighing upwards of a gram, maybe less.

0:15 - I chew up the mushroom good and wash it down. I already feel the very familiar effects of the kratom creeping in.

~1:00 - Full effects of the kratom being felt, as usual. I debate whether or not I may be feeling the mushroom's effects. I'm fairly certain I'm feeling adrenaline fill my body slowly. Could be the kratom because that has adrenal effects too, and it's not uncommon while peaking on kratom I get the 'shakes' from it. The kratom euphoria and slight anxiety I was feeling from the mushroom seemed to be fighting back and forth, with the adrenal effects slowly wining.

~1:10 - At about this time, I shove another <1g of shrooms into my pocket, and make my way to the bus to go to a rave we have been planning to go to. My gf and I are going to see Ferry Corsten spinning some old school trance, with Gabriel & Dresden opening. Very, very excited. :) Walking up the block to the bus, I feel like I have endless amounts of energy. The shakes and adrenal anxiety completely diminish when I use the energy to power walk up the hill. My girlfriend starts running out of breath and complaining about it, and I felt "like I was on speed or something" to quote myself at the time. Not even breathing hard by the time we reach the bus stop. Feeling pretty euphoric at this point now that my blood is flowing!

As we got on the bus, my girlfriend drinks a 5hr energy shot. The bus ride downtown was uneventful as I sat there and just took a constant mental inventory on how I was feeling. I thought to myself that if I was any less experienced with the anxiety you get from psychedelics, I would be freaking the fuck out right now on the bus, with all these strange people here, adrenaline filling my body, hands shaking, uncertainty ahead, etc.. However I remained calm, collected and looking forward to getting over the peak from the shrooms, which always gives way to much more enjoyable effects. We got to the rave, met with friends outside, went in, had a drink, began dancing. :)

~2:30 - On the dancefloor, dancing the night away, absolutely loving the music. People watching, making fun of all the little kiddies rolling balls, having a great time. I'm noticing that I have way, way more energy than I normally do, and I feel like I can just dance, dance, dance and not have to stop to regain myself. I keep looking around to see if I notice any visual effects, and I'm not seeing anything notable. I decide to eat the remainder of shrooms in my pocket.

~3:00 - I can feel the second dose of shrooms coming on, more adrenaline filling my body, more energy coming forth, feeling more alert, noticing that I can hear absolutely everything. I can hear the floor squeeking from people dancing on it, I can hear little sounds like peoples gum wrappers, water bottles, conversations, all on the dance floor of a LOUD ass trance rave. I asked my girlfriend if she was able to hear the sounds that were standing out to me and she thought I was crazy. I felt like the lights and colors got slightly more intense, but nothing I'd call a ++ experience.

~4:00+ - We danced the night away until about 1:30am, and then called it quits. I still felt like I could keep dancing but the lady was fizzling out. We hailed a cab and went home, smoked a bowl and went almost immediately to bed. I was still very stimulated and feeling the pulse of the music. After laying there for a while, I felt myself slipping deeper into a full on trip. As I lay there, I got tons of visuals in the darkness, CEV's, trippy thoughts, and non-stop organic trance music being composed in my head. This kept me awake pretty much all night until it started getting light out. I eventually fell asleep and woke up the next day feeling like a new person. :)



In conclusion I found this to be fun, but left me wanting a little more. I was hoping to get some visuals but wasn't really treated to much until I got home and layed in a dark room. The stimulation was nice but not worth wasting half a bag of shrooms on. I also found that the anxious adrenal energy you get could be very jarring to someone not experienced with psychs. My intention is for this mixture I'm making to be fun to share with friends, and I don't think many of my friends would understand this.

I plan to work more on it. Thanks for reading!!
 
As I think you know I am an avid kratom lover, and I like to combine kratom with many substances. I haven't ever combined it with mushrooms so that might be "on my list" coming up soon. Thanks for this entry SS.
 
Aside from 2C-E and 2C-I, mephedrone is the only RC I have experience with. I haven't used it in years. It was absolutely incredible at the time, blew away most of the molly that I've had. It's just so uncertain as to what kind of damage these RC's do, how they work, long term effects, etc.. For all we know it could be a direct precursor to cancer. That's why I'm so uncomfortable with RC's, and synthetics in general because compared to things like opium and mushrooms, we know almost nothing about them. Granted, we don't know a whole lot about natural things too, however we certainly know more about natural stuff that's been getting used for centuries than we do about these resulting products of (usually accidental) chemical reactions. Something simply about taking something that nature created on it's own sits so much better with me and adds to my overall experience.

Here I go talking about nature vs chemistry again.
 
Cool report. I always wanted to try mushrooms and im a daily weed smoker and to me seeing Ferry Corsten couldn't get any better! I'm quite jealous and glad you had a great time!
 
I'm just getting around to dipping my toes in the Kratom waters, but it sounds like different strains have different effects, and some are more "relaxing" than adrenal - again, I can't speak from personal experience though. Maybe one of the other strains would have been more in line with what you were looking for? I'm assuming you know what's what better than I do, but its just a suggestion.
 
I always thought mushrooms and kratom kind of cancelled each other out, or something. Read it several places, but it seems it´s not like that.

sounds like a good combo.
 
I'm just getting around to dipping my toes in the Kratom waters, but it sounds like different strains have different effects, and some are more "relaxing" than adrenal - again, I can't speak from personal experience though. Maybe one of the other strains would have been more in line with what you were looking for? I'm assuming you know what's what better than I do, but its just a suggestion.

Since you asked and you are the TR Champion this month:
Thai strains tend to be very stimulating...super red thai IS a stimulant

Bali-in the middle both simulating and pain killing

Super Green malaysian is good pain killer but something is missing a bit

Indo is the night time nod out type of kratom...not for work
 
Hehe, thanks for the comments!!

I've definitely had different experience with different strains. I find that the best experience comes from plain jane commercial grade regular powdered leaf. All these extracts, fusions, isolates, resins, super strains, a waste! I have nothing but consistent results with the cheapest powdered leaf I can find.

I plan to try this again in a few weeks. Next weekend is reserved for some MDMA, and I will probably not eat mushrooms within less than a week of that. Next time, I will change a few things. I should have mentioned I used a bit of kratom earlier in the day prior to this report and that most likely put a huge damper on how well the kratom worked. Next time I do this, I will wait at least a few days between kratom usages as to be sure when it hits, it hits hard with a rush of euphoria. I also will probably eat more mushrooms because the visuals were negligible. I was hoping to at least get very minor visuals, but I seemingly got none. Depending on how the effects are, I will probably also make a strong tea with gingseng and yerba mate, and perhaps even some kava kava. I was also considering a small bit of yohimbe.

I'm curious as to how the mild MAOI effects of kava and yohimbe would effect the experience.

In other news:

theotherside
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What happened here? Someone with nearly 9,000 posts doesn't normally just up and leave? Just an observation.
 
Seattle_Stranger said:
theotherside
Ex-Bluelighter
Posts: 8,930

What happened here? Someone with nearly 9,000 posts doesn't normally just up and leave? Just an observation.
Maybe it wasn't sudden for other BL staff, but I was shocked to see this too. I already miss theotherside, he did awesome job here.
 
Yeah, exactly what I'm sayin'. He/she most likely didn't just leave for no reason, I'm sure there's more to it and I am curious because I too enjoyed their contribution. :)
 
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