Kratom in combination with various "legal highs" and other chemicals

[CodeMan]

I have recently acquired a good amount of money and want to experiment with legal highs ( I live in the USA). I am prescribed Lamotrigine (mood stabilizer), lexapro (ssri), clonazepam, oxycodone, cannabis, and phenergan. Is it safe, for example, for me to use kratom (which is supposed to have an opiate-like high) recreationally? I have read that Kratom has some of the same alkaloids as Yohimbe, which reportedly reacts with ssri's negatively. I am not interested in stimulants because they reduce my appetite and I already have a low appetite. Can I take Kratom safely with the meds mentioned, and are there any other euphoric legal herbs/drugs which would be safe for me to take? If it helps, I already know from personal experience that kava is safe for me. I am looking for highs with more sedating effects like Kratom and Kava, not stimulants such as ephedra, yohimbe, or mephedrone. I expect most,if not all, of my replies will mention herbs, but if there are synthetic and safe legal highs in the same class I am looking for, I am open to those as well. Thank you. I doubt this thread breaks any rules of the forum or the website, but I apologize if it does, and if so, the thread can be locked/deleted. I am also open to psychedelics; I enjoy salvia, and VERY occasionally psiliocybe mushrooms.

 

[Vikingdon]

I'm not sure about any of the med's you listed. But how high is your oxy tolerance? Some speculate that with a fair opiate tolerance that you might need to take a large amount of kratom just to feel it. The way to go with kratom is to get the UEI, that's pretty popular since it's IMO the strongest form of kratom.

 

[CodeMan]

They have a cross-tolerance? interesting... I take 10mg oxy IR(no APAP) 2x daily and also one 5/500 vicodin 2-3 times a day to keep me feeling ok between oxys. I suppose that means I would have to take a fair deal more than an opiate naive person. Can you (or any other BL user) roughly gauge how much more I will have to take to achieve euphoria from that info? BTW I'm glad I learned the cross-tolerance thing before buying any.

 

[Vikingdon]

IMO your tolerance doesn't seem to high. I take about 80mg of hydro to get a good buzz going, and from what I've been told a good tablespoon of UEI kratom will do me justice, though I haven't tested it just word of mouth. Maybe kratom would be decent for you, just check for interactions, I'm sure someone will have some input.

 

[CodeMan]

Sorry to bump, but I still would like some safe legal high suggestions (conditions in first post), and hopefully some experience from people who have done kratom while taking an SSRI (Lexapro preferably). I still am uncertain about kratom's safety given my current conditions. And before anyone mentions it, yes, I know that kratom can be addictive.

 

[NeighborhoodThreat]

You should be able to mix kratom with an SSRI, but I would tread carefully. (Meaning start low with your dosages, and I wouldn't mix kratom with other opiates the first time)

Have you checked out The Kratom Thread?

I'm going to edit the title of your thread for easier searching. PM me if you have any questions.

 

[Oxide]

While I've never heard of any interactions from kratom+ssri use, if you're set on trying it I would start slow. Try a low dose of kratom and gauge how it makes you feel. I find Kratom to be the best of the legal highs, but I'm a little biased since I already prefer opiates to most things. It's certainly effective and as you mentioned, addictive. It also will compliment the opiates you already take quite well. Cannabis is excellent with kratom as well.

 

[CodeMan]

Final bump. Neighborhoodthreat has changed the title of my thread to something more accurate for the topic, so I hope I can get the answers I seek now. Thank you in advance...