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Opioids kratom for PAWS?

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spot on about IVing of oxy.

a good way to tapper off of oxy or any other med is to...

-use a a glass where you specifically measure out the same volume (around 4oz's) of water every time you plan to take your dose.

-if you have oxycoodone hcl just put it into the water and let it dissolve, if yours has a time release- remove it, crush, place into water. stir up the water till you have a good consistent mixture.

-use a teaspoon or half a teaspoon to remove exactly that amount every time you dose. 1 fluid ounce = 6 teaspoons or 12 half teaspoons.

-keep a log of your schedule. you could do the same reduction for a day or two for each dose during that period, then remove an additional teaspoon or half a teaspoon and so on. you will be able to get down slow and steady over a month - 3 month period which ever works for you best!!

this is a easy way to mic out your dose and do a gradual slow taper... if you have the structure and want to do so. the loperamide will totally help and with this mentioned reduction your rls will be at a minimum as your body will have more of a chance to adjust.
 
i dont know if my @ss can handle a combo of loperamide and kratom. i would be backed up for days. with just kratom i feel like im giving birth on the toilet. sorry to be gross. and kratom does help my RLS, but at the same time if i run out of it i still get the RLS. i cant really sleep without it. i wonder how long the RLS would last if i just cold turkey'ed it from this point on. coming off kratom 2x per day mixed with oxy 2-3x per week.
 
RLS lasts quite a while for me, fuck i still get it sometimes but after 3-4 days it settles down for the most part (esp. since you're on short acting opioids). TBH loperamide doesn't block me up at all, probably because i am scripted dexedrine but still i can take 10mg of lope and shit 3x per day no problem lol. I find codeine more constipating than both lope and kratom. Eat plenty of fiber!

If it's just your legs then you aren't doing bad, once you feel that same restlessness in your arms/body you know shit's hitting the fan. Gabapentin and neurontin (lyrica) will also fix restless legs, as well as really hot baths, epsom salts and this stuff called quinine seems to work for some people. RLS is one of the most irritating of the withdrawal symptoms for me and even after being off real opiates for 8 months now i still sometimes get it, the only thing that keeps it away is taking loperamide once every 3 days.
 
well its usually just in my legs but from time to time it has reached my arms and chest. thats when it is at its worst. ive tried eating banannas before bed for potassium and some holistic crap made by hylands, neither has worked. i can't keep spending nights walking around and stretching and then make it to work the next day. dr suggested magnesium supplements too but havent tried that yet. doc wants to use nuerontin as a last resort. BTW the doc doesnt know about my "problem". been considering switching from kratom to subs since i find my self still getting oxy sometimes when i run out of kratom.
 
o god kratom is it a godsend! im not sure but i will say when i was in suboxone withdrawl kratom was great but like i read once a week went by oxy time now on sub again my only chance of getting off is getting booted out program thats sad i need that U ARE DONE RIKO! GET OUT! then i can sit and freeze and shit myself for 6 months !and have paws rest of my life ! sad sad sad but yes kratom will help lots order online !
 
so is going down the sub route just a bad idea overall? kratom is good i agree, but i usually use more of that than necessary chasing a good high. if on subs i would have my wife hold the rx and give to me as directed.
 
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