Opioids Kratom dependent . Need help .

[adamdaniel911]

Hello and wishing a very good day to everyone here !

My name is adam and i am a kratom dependency . I need help because of some reason i din't manage to success quit kratom .
I can tell that i am having a problem with self-confident , where i weak .

First let me tell you how i get started , at first kratom always a wonder drug it helps me in my chills , nervous , confident , energy and motivation .

When i started taking kratom the first 2 month , it regain myself together . I felt like i am very energetic and hyperactive . Then i start to study about kratom in the internet , my conclusion that it is maybe a good opiate like drug but when prolonged used it may cause side effect .

Then i started to quit for month , but soon . I got the nightmare dealer , who keep calling me , and texting me he gave me a promotion price . I refused to take at first , but when there is nothing else to do with that evening , i decide to buy .

Then i forget about the effect of kratom , the duration i am taking it , the dosage . Until that one day , i decide to drink 4-6 times per day . After a while , its already 1 year addiction .

Now , i getting really hard for me stop , because when i delayed my dose even for 30minutes i can already feels the withdrawal symptom . I am a heavy drinker now . I need to stop , i din't feels good anymore while on it , just feel normal and if i don't take it feels that i have mental problem . Like sad , scare , feelsnot real .

I am really regret on what happen . I wish i could make a better choice . But life goes on . And i struggle to stop . Every single day i would think about how lucky i am if i would be normal back . I did try to lowering the dosage but is it not working because of my psychology i would think this is the last day , last day ... But none of that day i finally stop .

Right now also i experience some difficulty of thought , thinking , solution , and when i try to it gets my brain to receive unusual pain . That would make me feel dizzy and anxiety .

Thats all i think , please do respond . How do i get out all of this ?

 

[PANDAmonium]

You need to taper your dose. What strain/type of kratom are you taking? Extract? Regular leaf? How many grams do you ingest per day?

We need this information to help you make a tapering schedule. Basically, you will need to take a little less kratom for a week. Then a little less for another week, and so on, until you can stop.

 

[adamdaniel911]

Ok my method is boil the leaf , take the leaf around 20-30 leaves it can make 600ml of kratom water .

I ingest 300ml per day meaning 4-6 per day .

Wake in the moring around 8 am and start taking kratom 50-80ml estimately

Then the lunch time 2.30pm around 30-70ml this time .

Then In the evening at 6.30 around 30-60ml.

Then before go to bed at 11.00 around 60-80ml.

 

[Part Time Junkie]

Get some benzo/etiz/booze to help ride it out for a few days but then STOP taking them after that or you will just replace one problem with another.

Eat/drink as healthy as you can and do some exercise to sweat the toxins out. Also look into supplements like vitamin pills, 5-HTP and Valerian to name a few.

One thing that helped me when I had WDs was taking a bit of Ethylphenidate for the first few days - seemed to make me feel more normal again but everyone's different so it might not work with you so be careful!

Good luck mate

EDIT: Also tapering is a good idea as someone mentioned earlier...

 

[adamdaniel911]

Also the hardest problem its my own country they export kratom

You know what ? Everyone here in my country does't seem to have problem
Of buying it because it very very cheap !

I give you the idea around 1kg ok kratom regular leaf cost 5 USD .

 

[adamdaniel911]

Today i am tapering usually i take my kratom around 8am , but i just delayed it to 12pm .

It's getting really hard .

 

[PANDAmonium]

Don't delay your doses. Take your kratom at the same time you always do. Just take less each time. You take about 80 mL, 4 times a day (I'm rounding up, I know). For one week, try taking 60 mL four times a day. Then the next week, 40 mL.

 

[adamdaniel911]

Don't delay your doses. Take your kratom at the same time you always do. Just take less each time. You take about 80 mL, 4 times a day (I'm rounding up, I know). For one week, try taking 60 mL four times a day. Then the next week, 40 mL.

Thanks for this idea i will try to manage this thing . Also i got problem with my own house people ! Depressed everytime like hell .

Then tell me why i shouldn't delay kratom intake ? Is it because of the withdrawal ?

 

[PANDAmonium]

Delaying your dose isn't really helpful if you want to taper slowly from Kratom. If you try to wait as long as possible to take the kratom, then you'll constantly be thinking "how long has it been since my last dose? When will it be okay to take more kratom? Can I wait a bit longer?" That can be distracting and it will make you think about kratom even more.

The goal of tapering is that you are able to reduce your kratom intake while still living a normal, productive life. Basically you want to try and think about kratom as little as possible because your ultimate goal is removing it from your life. Not sticking to a schedule will probably cause you to think about it a lot more, which isn't helpful.

 

[Dobles]

Seems like a kratom taper would be rough because of thr unregulated potency thr withdraw from that was such a terrible 7 or 8 days oxy withdraw was never even that bad for me.

 

[BeachBum4u]

I have a kind of unrelated question on kratom. BL is the first time I ever heard about it. Is making it into a tea or whatever the only way to take it? Are there pill for instance? What does it feel like when you do take it or does it just relieve withdrawal pain? I'm wondering if it isn't something I should add to my field kit for W/D's. Also, I read somebody say it was expensive and kind of hard to find, is that true? Many Thanks and good luck on tapering off it!