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Kpins -2mg sublingualy 1mg oral

klonopin takes quite awhile to kick in and take effect if ur new to it. Sometimes people don't feel anything for up to 90 mins, that being said your chances of taking more within that 90 min time period is dramatically increased cuz ur wondering WTF nothing is happening. expect to black out or really get fucked up. its just as potent as xanax, just longer acting. i always take kpins sublingual, mostly if im on full stomach so i avoid the food
 
tokenname said:
I never ever ever felt any kind of sedation with kpins.
Lowered inhibitions, and drug seeking behavior...yes...big time...
but never sedated.
And I compulsively redosed.

OP...You've already had more than enough...you're probably just looking for
something you're not going to find in the first place.
Don't take anymore...it's pointless and can only hurt you in the end.

~token
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i also too find it so odd that sometimes benzos do the opposite and give me intense spouts of drug seeking behavior, causing more anxiety. not all the time, but i get that too and i dont like it
 
opiatekrzy said:
i also too find it so odd that sometimes benzos do the opposite and give me intense spouts of drug seeking behavior, causing more anxiety. not all the time, but i get that too and i dont like it
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I've learned to just stay away from the kpins...they're the only one's which have
caused me to feel and act this way...
i'm sure the drug seeking/trouble seeking comes from lowered inhibitions...and my continuous redosing..
no more of that for me......

I'm a valium girl until the end.

~token
 
Shows how different we all are, admittedly I've only tried valium and clonazepam - it takes me 60mg valium to get rid of the racing thoughts, yet 0.5mg clonazepam gets does it's job yet leaves me able to think.

EDIT - Forget to mention prior to the valium I had NEVER used a benzo in my life.
 
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when i first got RXed benzos, my first one i was on was Valium 5mg 3x a day, boy i loved how it made me feel, having no tolerance to benzos, IMO i think valium has the most recreaitonal effects from all the other benzos considering u aint got a tolerance. after that tolerance grew and it became ineffective. so i switched to Xanax, 0.5mg 2x a day, i began abusing that quick, which led to dependency, which also led to my doctor giving my Klonopin and eventually got up to 1mg, 3x a day. At first the transaction was rough taking klonopin, i felt no effects really..after awhile it grew on me, and now i LOVE KLONOPIN, i prefer it over any benzos, i feell the effects within 10mins after taking it on empty stomach, duration lasts 8hrs, which i love, dont have to worry about crashing, how xanax does. i find klonopin much more potent than xanax in the aspect that it has such along half life and duration is longer, yes they both are MG to MG equivalent, klonopin just takes longer to kick in, but since i been on it so low, my body metabolizes it faster and it is great, nice muscle relaxant properties, mind calmness...idk my opinion
 
manicmama said:
Shows how different we all are, admittedly I've only tried valium and clonazepam - it takes me 60mg valium to get rid of the racing thoughts, yet 0.5mg clonazepam gets does it's job yet leaves me able to think.

EDIT - Forget to mention prior to the valium I had NEVER used a benzo in my life.
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nothing gets rid of my thoughts....racing or not...
i only look to get rid of physical aspects of anxiety..
for instance...i'm a fan of breathing..

but i'm also a fan of thinking...

valium helps my body alot...kpin just messes with my brain...
yup...we're all different...thanks to whoever's in charge.
 
Hmm, it doesn't screw with my brain, just let's me 'think' rather than 50,000 thoughts fly round my head at once.
I wonder if the fact that similar symptoms are better alleived by different benzos in different people due to the different underlying reasons such as hypomania/mania, anxiety, depression etc.
Probably not.
 
manicmama said:
Hmm, it doesn't screw with my brain, just let's me 'think' rather than 50,000 thoughts fly round my head at once.
I wonder if the fact that similar symptoms are better alleived by different benzos in different people due to the different underlying reasons such as hypomania/mania, anxiety, depression etc.
Probably not.
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I've just always attributed it to each of us having different body chemisty.
I seem to metabolize and feel certain meds that others find useless...
and I also seem to not get along with certain ones that are everybody else's best friends.
Like you said, shows how different we all are...body and mind.

~token
 
To anyone using benzos, especially Klonopin:

Just stay away from benzos n the first place, that is my advice. One day you will be sorry for every single benzo that you have put in your body. Benzos don't "help" in any way. It's one of the most evil things ever invented.

I know what I'm talking about perfectly well. I have been down that road. From 2006 till 2010 I have been on and off Klonopin. First it was prescribed to me; I took for about 1 month. Then I started taking it "occasionally".... Then I realized that when I take Klonopin, I can think clearer, and somehow I had better concentration and motivation to do things. Nothing was hard for me! Then I wake up next day, feeling awful and with absolutely no motivation at all. Then I take another Kpin and here we go, back on the track! However, I knew that I will eventually stop using this poison.

I am glad I stopped taking Kpin (in June 2010), however, after 2 years I still feel symptoms that are considered a protracted benzo withdrawal. Sometimes I would get irritated for no apparent reason, I would get in verbal confrontations very easily over stupid things... "I am right and you are wrong, you know!!!!!" I get hyperactive when reading something or browsing the web. Reading books, what is that? :)

Just think deeply and you will see that you're lying to yourself with all that garbage. Sooner or later you will have to quit benzos, so why prolong it?

There is no price for peace of mind.
 
Klonopins aren't exactly good for recreational use in my opinion. They make me just feel stupid and tired. Then the next day I am drowsy.
 
matt...cow.... welcome to BL even though your still GLs. %)

I prefer xanax but I let it show and the doctor changed me to kpins.

I have restless legs... the dumbest of all the dumb things I could have. I shake my feet and ankles when I lay down at night. It's awful. If I force myself to hold my feet down the situation worsens and I bust out with kicks so hard and uncontrollable that it feels like I'm having a seizure.

My tolerance has gotten ridiculous though.

4 mg is a minimal dose for me. I've taken much more than 4... I'm not even going to tell you how many mgs kpins I have done all at one time out of embarrassment and also because this is about harm reduction.

My point is that benzo tolerance is a total bitch. Your 4 or 5 or 6 mg kpins wouldn't do anything but stop my legs. Ten times that many doesn't stop them any better. Trust me. I have never felt any kind of high from kpins. Xanax made me feel warm and slightly high, above 10 mg. At that rate, my prescription bottle was empty long before I could get a refill.

My kpin bottle is always empty before I can get a refill. When I run out, I pace the floors at night and post in with the Late Night Crew.

Don't even start with the benzos. You aren't going to find what you are looking for.
 
Heres the deal; Benzos are tricky. You may think everythings normal but then you forget a whole week. Dont expect to feel Real high. I get Klonopin 1mg tabs and I really dont feel much and if I take alot I dont remember stuff, slur my words. I found that Xanax is the only one that makes me Stumble tho.
 
To anyone using benzos, especially Klonopin:

Just stay away from benzos n the first place, that is my advice. One day you will be sorry for every single benzo that you have put in your body. Benzos don't "help" in any way. It's one of the most evil things ever invented.

I know what I'm talking about perfectly well. I have been down that road. From 2006 till 2010 I have been on and off Klonopin. First it was prescribed to me; I took for about 1 month. Then I started taking it "occasionally".... Then I realized that when I take Klonopin, I can think clearer, and somehow I had better concentration and motivation to do things. Nothing was hard for me! Then I wake up next day, feeling awful and with absolutely no motivation at all. Then I take another Kpin and here we go, back on the track! However, I knew that I will eventually stop using this poison.

I am glad I stopped taking Kpin (in June 2010), however, after 2 years I still feel symptoms that are considered a protracted benzo withdrawal. Sometimes I would get irritated for no apparent reason, I would get in verbal confrontations very easily over stupid things... "I am right and you are wrong, you know!!!!!" I get hyperactive when reading something or browsing the web. Reading books, what is that?

Just think deeply and you will see that you're lying to yourself with all that garbage. Sooner or later you will have to quit benzos, so why prolong it?

There is no price for peace of mind.
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First of all, I don't think preaching compete abstinence is a reasonable thing to do here on BL, especially with someone who obviously is not going to listen. It's like DARE anti-drug programs in high school. Did the whole "drugs will mess up your life" message actually keep anyone from using? No.

Anyway, yea chronic benzo use can lead to bad PAWS and more problems than they solve, but in many cases they can help people. I used to take 1mg klonopin per day for about a year, then tapered down to 0.5 mg/day for about a year, as I found that "less was more." I did a nice gradual taper and have been off benzos for about 6 months and feel absolutely no PAWS, and in fact my anxiety is far better than it was before initiating chronic benzo therapy.

So yes some people can have bad experiences, but not all. But honestly, if the OP didn't even listen to like 20 posters telling him NOT to redose, you think he is going to never again touch a benzo b/c you said they are evil? Not to say that your experience isn't worth sharing or communicating, but I just don't think this is the proper place.
 
I agree with alkap.. I hate when people come here and preach that benzos are they end of the world/the worst drugs possible because they had a bad experience with them.. some people benefit greatly from these meds, especially when taken as directed and truly needed. I'm not naive in thinking these meds don't have a high rate of abuse but personally they are a godsend to me. I take Xanax to combat anxiety and "racing thoughts" and it works perfectly. As for coming off of them, I don't ever plan to. How is that any different than being on blood pressure medicine your whole life? I don't abuse my prescription and couldn't be happier with its effects. Feel free to share your opinion and experiences but don't discredit a highly effective medication just because you had a bad or unsuccessful experience with it. Ok I'm getting off my soap box now, carry on.
 
generally, I think the ppl that come on here and "preach" are trying
to warn the ones who are about to do themselves harm by jumping down
the benzo rabbit hole for recreational purposes.
if you're taking your meds as rx'd and are finding relief then i'm sure those same
ppl would be happy for you.

nobody wants to see anybody hurt here.
token
 
I've seen numerous threads down talking benzos when people are merely asking for advice while trying to deal with anxiety, social or stressful problems. These people are looking for which medication might best help with their issues. Yes, technically this is a doctor's job but we all know doctor's can be inexperienced themselves or just scared to prescribe benzos and opiates these days due to the increased cases of abuse. I partially agree with you token in that this is after all a harm reduction forum. I'm just saying I don't think its helpful to push people away from a potentially helpful medication by over exaggerating or giving extreme side effects especially if it comes from someone who did in fact abuse their meds.
 
cool...you said your peace...
i said mine..
and am in no mood to argue who's right or wrong.
for the record...I have been on anti anxiety meds most of my life..
for legit reasons...
and valium and i are in love.

token
 
i have got to change my username...this is ridiculous...

i am a female...
but cheers back to you...

~token
 
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