Is it safe to mix klonopin with restoril? My doc has me on Kpin 2mg a day for anxiety, and restoril for sleep. He said to only take the restoril if I am still having trouble sleeping @ night though. So I guess is 2mg of kping with 15mg of restoril a safe mix?
Kpin w/ Restoril
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Bob Loblaw
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Safe yes, but don't add any more downers to the mix. Increased amnesia may ensue.
I was prescribed Klonopin in combination with Restoril for a couple of years, and by the end of my run I was at 3mg Klonopin per day and 60mg Restoril every night. I found it a great combination, as I didn't feel hungover from the Restoril and the Klonopin is not a very sedating benzo.
It was pretty awful. I tapered down with phenobarbital, starting at 120mg 4x daily for a week, then 3x daily for a week, then 60mg 3x daily for two weeks, and then dropped down by 1/3 every two weeks after that. It was a long process, and the protracted withdrawals are miserable. I was on that dosing regimen for about 3 years, and for two of those years I was also taking 60mg Dalmane (flurazepam) every night with the Restoril to sleep (as prescribed, both).
Psychedelic Jay
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I know that was bad, especially after you added Dalmane to the mix.
The OP's W/D are gonna be pretty dad too, if he manages to abuse this.
The OP's W/D are gonna be pretty dad too, if he manages to abuse this.
I keep hearing about how awful withdrawals are from benzos, but I've been on kpin for a month now and it's the first thing that's really helped with my anxiety, and believe me I tried all the 'natural' methods of beating anxiety before I resorted to medication. Even still today I continue to see a therapist, physciatrist, do breathing techniques, exercise, all that stuff.
If withdrawals are as bad as some people make them out to be, it sounds like I should just taper off the stuff now, but I'm starting to think they're only bad for the people who really abuse benzos, and then stop cold turkey. I'm not saying I'm immune to withdrawal symptoms whenever I go off of them, I'm sure I could have some, but I take the stuff as directed and only to treat anxiety.
If withdrawals are as bad as some people make them out to be, it sounds like I should just taper off the stuff now, but I'm starting to think they're only bad for the people who really abuse benzos, and then stop cold turkey. I'm not saying I'm immune to withdrawal symptoms whenever I go off of them, I'm sure I could have some, but I take the stuff as directed and only to treat anxiety.
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Psychedelic Jay
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It's more than you think man.
Look up benzo addiction on google. You'll see what I'm talking about.
Your benzo is by far no mirical drug. It will lose it's effect over time, and you will have to take more to get the same effect you are getting now. If this insues, you will become physically dependent on them to just feel normal. Your anxiety will be worse than before you started, if you W/D too fast.
If you take them in upwards of a year, you could have seizures from quiting cold turkey.
While it is the most effective short term treatment, it is not good for more than a year to do this treatment.
By then your tolerance will be out of the range any GP or Psych is going to give you.
Look up benzo addiction on google. You'll see what I'm talking about.
Your benzo is by far no mirical drug. It will lose it's effect over time, and you will have to take more to get the same effect you are getting now. If this insues, you will become physically dependent on them to just feel normal. Your anxiety will be worse than before you started, if you W/D too fast.
If you take them in upwards of a year, you could have seizures from quiting cold turkey.
While it is the most effective short term treatment, it is not good for more than a year to do this treatment.
By then your tolerance will be out of the range any GP or Psych is going to give you.
Yeah I've researched benzo addiction / withdrawal, and even talked to my physciatrist about it. I don't plan on taking it for a year, hopefully no more than 6 months or so. I was just saying it's been a really good med for me here lately.
I'm not underestimating what the withdrawals can be like, trust me. I just think they are a lot worse for people who use the meds excessively and for the wrong reasons, or even people who have used them for a long period of time and wanna quit cold turkey, like you said.
I'm not underestimating what the withdrawals can be like, trust me. I just think they are a lot worse for people who use the meds excessively and for the wrong reasons, or even people who have used them for a long period of time and wanna quit cold turkey, like you said.
Psychedelic Jay
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To me in a real "big picture" view, using any drug for anxiety fighting purposes itself is the backbone of addiction.
That's why I can't see benzos being "moral" treatment for anxiety. Occasional users are good and usually never fall into the cycle.
Here is the whole cycle of benzo addicts:
You have your first panic attack, or have GAD. (You go to your GP, Psychiatrist, or The E.R.)
You get a benzo, one used for anxiety.(The most potent ones.)
You get a limited supply.(You get in a habit of taking it to alleviate their stress.)
You get off of the benzo.(Since you are used to having this crutch, you fall hard.)
^^^During this time, tolerance is sure to occur with quite haste.
Now below is where at least half of benzo addicts start, or you were already addicted from a doctor:
A friend introduces you to your first benzo.(Or you are looking for some to replace your lost causes for prescriptions.)
You purchase your benzo off the street.(Prolonging your exposure, or to start the unhealthy self-treatment of new user with no prior education of the drugs.)
^^^Now at his point most will never want to part way with benzos, or a reluctant try is made, and unbearable anxiety occurs.(Now you are riding, or just hopped back on the train.) So:
You take benzos in extraordinary amounts as tolerance rises. (16mgs of Xanax a day, etc...)
Uneducated people start mixing alcohol in the mix.(Which will ensure accidents to themselves such as: excessive CNS depression, or redundant car accidents, death, seizing in the holding tanks in jails, etc...)
But as always you and your body will have a ball if used only on occasion.
That's why I can't see benzos being "moral" treatment for anxiety. Occasional users are good and usually never fall into the cycle.
Here is the whole cycle of benzo addicts:
You have your first panic attack, or have GAD. (You go to your GP, Psychiatrist, or The E.R.)
You get a benzo, one used for anxiety.(The most potent ones.)
You get a limited supply.(You get in a habit of taking it to alleviate their stress.)
You get off of the benzo.(Since you are used to having this crutch, you fall hard.)
^^^During this time, tolerance is sure to occur with quite haste.
Now below is where at least half of benzo addicts start, or you were already addicted from a doctor:
A friend introduces you to your first benzo.(Or you are looking for some to replace your lost causes for prescriptions.)
You purchase your benzo off the street.(Prolonging your exposure, or to start the unhealthy self-treatment of new user with no prior education of the drugs.)
^^^Now at his point most will never want to part way with benzos, or a reluctant try is made, and unbearable anxiety occurs.(Now you are riding, or just hopped back on the train.) So:
You take benzos in extraordinary amounts as tolerance rises. (16mgs of Xanax a day, etc...)
Uneducated people start mixing alcohol in the mix.(Which will ensure accidents to themselves such as: excessive CNS depression, or redundant car accidents, death, seizing in the holding tanks in jails, etc...)
But as always you and your body will have a ball if used only on occasion.
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Psychedelic Jay
Bluelighter
Yeah, it is.
I always black out when I drink on benzos.
I always black out when I drink on benzos.