KPin + Hydrocodone Syrup - feel like I overdid it

[Valley88]

earlier tonight I took KPin as usual. I take 2mg every evening as prescribed. Well this time I took 3mg b/c I have some extra pills b/c I've skipped some days on it.

Well later around 1am I was @ a friend's and he had some hydro syrup. I know it's not good to mix these andnever have, but we decided to chug some so I ended up chugging about half a bottle along with him. I have a good tolerance to Kpin (but no real tolerance to opiates). I'm still up which is a good thing obviously, but I've been having trouble breathing, and fear if I fall asleep something bad could happen.

So basically Kpin (not recreational) mixed with half a bottle of hydro syrup (for recreation) and now my breathing is shallow & my heart's skipping & stuff. I definitely won't do this again and I know this was stupid/ignorant, but if anyone is up and reading this do you think I'm out of the danger zone simply b/c it's been so long or should I just really try and stay up until I'm feeling "more normal" then try to sleep?

Sorry if I'm wasting anyone's time and I know this was dumb, but I've never really been in this situation before and I thought maybe this was the place to post for harm reduction (not sure)?

Thanks..

 

[effie]

You're right, mixing two downers/CNS depressants like clonazepam and hydrocodone can be very risky - they potentiate each other and as you found out they can hit you a lot harder than you anticipated.

If you feel like your breathing is slowing down, you need to get medical assistance as this is the sign of an overdose - if you are at all concerned, please get yourself checked out ASAP! At the very least try to have someone with you to watch over you and make sure you are okay. Hydrocodone doesn't have a huge half life, but clonazepam does, so the effects can linger.

In my eyes, if you are concerned enough to be asking us on an internet forum, then you should really get seen by a medical professional. We can't tell you if you are "out of the danger zone" or not over the internet, and benzos + opiates can be very dangerous - please don't risk overdosing!!

(By the way - 1am means nothing to me as I don't know what time zone you are in so I don't know how long ago you took the drugs..)

You're not wasting anyone's time here at all, but if your breathing is shallow and/or slowed down then you should get some medical attention immediately rather than wait for replies on here!

Good luck

 

[Thou]

Do you have a trusted friend that has an inkling of anatomy knowledge that can watch over you?

I know it's early, but if it's an emergency (which we don't know yet, this is all speculation), I'm sure you could rouse someone out of bed so they could keep an eye on you for a few hours.

What are your TPR's like? (your vitals?)


It's always a shit situation when one goes mixing his usual dose of kpin (I'm on 3mg qd myself) with some kind of strong opiate and then they cause respiratory depress and worry. It's the biggest gamble in terms of what one WANTS to do (IE: sleep) and what one feels they might HAVE to do (sit in the ER for 4 hours for possibly no reason). I'm not saying you're safe, not by any means, just that we don't know and without a trained nurse there it will be impossible for you to be 100 percent on this one.

Did you forget that you take klonopin daily? Did you say you did? That's what I got out of that.

Stay awake for as long as you can and the minute your intuition tells you "it's time" than it most likely is. Your body will know best. I'd still like to have a sober second party take your vitals and your respiration so we know what we're dealing with here. I don't know if you've a ride to a hospital at this hour and I know ambulances can be pricey.

Maybe you could take a walk? I'm a touch opiate naive I must admit, can anyone chime in on if that would be a good or a bad idea? I figure it would keep him awake. What about coffee? Would that exacerbate his symptoms?

Feel better man.

 

[Thou]

Any updates on this?

Hope you're okay.

 

[Valley88]

Man I appreciate the feedback a lot. I can feel that y'all care through your posts. I got out of it okay but I won't do that again, at least not with the hydro syrup b/c I have no idea how much hydro I ingested, but I can tell it must have been a lot because the next thing I know I just couldn't breathe for a while and was really out of it. It was scary. I had nobody to check on me and I was freaked out, lol.

Now I do from time to time take some KPin with a little bit of opiates (maybe 10mg at most) and I'm fine, but something about all that hydro syrup really hit me too hard.

I do think staying awake and drinking some coffee may have helped me, because I feel like if I had gone to sleep as I was posting that the other night, then something could have happened.

Again thanks for the feedback man, I am grateful for your concern.

 

[Tripman]

NEVER EVER consume opiates without knowing the dosage.

Please never do this again, you probably already realise how foolhardy this was, but it could have killed you. Those bottles usually have at least 250mg in them, if you have a tolerance at 10mg and you dosed 125... Well you're lucky to be alive TBH.

Take it from someone that has OD'd several times on opiates and ended up in resuscitation wards without a heartbeat etc... Just. Dont. Do it.

 

[DroneLore]

I'm glad you're okay. I was a little nervous when you didn't reply, haha. Tussionex (hydrocodone syrup) can get you, man. I once ingested ~75% of a bottle and got more fucked up than I've ever been on an opiate. It took longer to kick in than I expected to I kept on sippin', then I started to feel it a little, inhibitions were lowered and I kept on sippin'. Before I knew it I was nodding harder than I ever have before or since. I, too, contemplated seeking medical attention. The fact that I had smoked H every day for a week a couple weeks prior may have saved me.

 

[Valley88]

Y'all ain't lying. That hydro syrup must have equaled up to a bunch of MGs because the next thing I knew I was out of it and was having a hard time breathing. Scared the #### outta me. I knew I was in some sort of medical trouble, but was too foolish to get help. I'm not really one to just run for help because I'd feel embarrassed. I should have went for help the other night though because I realize how much danger I was in now that I look back on it.

I'm not F'kin around with that syrup again unless it's just a little bit and WITHOUT any other drugs involved. I hope anyone reading this takes this advice too. Don't do what I did.

 

[Tripman]

Would you rather be dead or embarrassed?

 

[Valley88]

Yeah, great point. I feel like a fool & I'm just glad to be around still. If that situation ever comes up again I'll get help. I won't put myself in that spot again though.

 

[Tripman]

Thanks.

I'm not trying to be harsh. I've had friends die, and have almost died myself from opies, even WITH medical attention.

Never even consider embarrassment, that should be the last thing you think about.

 

[Thou]

Thanks for the update, glad you're okay.

Definitively heed the words of Tripman, everything he said was absolutely true and should be taken dead-on and literally. There are plenty of drug combinations to fuck around with that won't have nearly as devestating an effect as mixing opiates and downers of any sort, particularly benzos. You could have easily died.

I'm not condoning the practice of poly-drug use mind you, simply making an honest point. Whatever you ingest should be allergy tested at a fraction of the 'recommended' dose first hand, no exceptions. Then one slowly titrates there way up, both for your immediate safety and also your overall knowledge of the [new] drug you're taking. You never dive into the pool first thing, it's better to get acclimated to the water in these cases.

Also taking a drug without knowing the proper dosage, in an age where scales accurate to .001, propylene glycol, oral syringes and all manner of other tools are readily available and quite often very cheap.

Thanks for the update; most people make these threads and get better and never post back and keep us in limbo wondering wtf happened to the poor fellow. 8( Also, sorry for the long-winded rant, just thought I'd throw out a few bits of wisdom for anyone who should chance upon this thread.