Benzos (Klonopin) Cannot get Klonopin Prescribed Again, Anyone Else Out There Same Issue?

[OpiatEuphoriaReturns]

So I am curious if anyone else has had this issue with their doctor/psychiatrist. I don't even have withdrawal from benzos anymore and I still don't feel completely normal without them.

I was prescribed Klonopin 1mg/day from age 19-26. I am 29 years old now. I have been unable to get my Klonopin prescribed again for 3 years now. So I get it when I can from dealers but of course that is almost impossible since it is so hard to find and I hate Xanax and Valium they make me sleepy and Klonopin does the opposite basically. The one person I can get it from takes weeks to actually meet up with me. And usually takes the entire day to finally come through.
I used to get them from the DN but I cannot afford the Paxful prices of bitcoin and all DN and RC sites require bitcoin unfortunately (probably for good reason though). And also don't want to.

Anyway, I am prescribed 8mg/Suboxone every month and my doctor knows I get Klonopin off the street after I stopped getting it from my doctor. And she just asks if I am still only taking 1mg/day. I always test positive for benzos and suboxone, nothing else for over 2 years.

I lost my prescription after buying my house and having to change doctors because I couldn't drive that far out every month. So the next doctor told me to see a psychiatrist to get it again and when I did from 2 different ones they wouldn't re-prescribe it.

The doctor I see for Suboxone is cash only so I don't know if it's because I am an "addict" and that is why. But I couldn't get them prescribed again before I even started getting Suboxone.

Anyway, do you guys have trouble getting it from your Suboxone doctor?

All the people I used to know that went to Suboxone doctors seemed to get it along with their suboxone every time no problem. All I can get for anxiety is Gabapentin and that doesn't really help like Klonopin does.

They seem to not want to give benzos to Suboxone patients anymore. It sucks because I am finishing my degree this Fall semester and it is difficult to concentrate with how much anxiety I have everyday. I have been able to surpass the withdrawal symptoms of benzos but I still feel like I need them for anxiety which I why I started taking them to begin with.
The worst part is if I could just get it prescribed again, I would do what I used to, not talk to dealers anymore. I only ever look for Klonopin and never get anything else. And they're halfway impossible to find or charge so much for them.

 

[GetMeOutOfThisCRAP]

When it comes to prescriptions many people get cozy--not realizing how shaky the health industry really can be sometimes. You can be totally complacent on a script only to have a doctor go to prison or relocate entirely. I know this because it happened to me (not benzos though). I've had friends with xanax or ativan scripts randomly be mysteriously replaced by gabapentin despite them not wanting anything to do with the gabapentin lol.

I know anxiety really sucks and I'm sure you're still experiencing some residual withdrawal (hence the more noticeable anxiety), but I can't see your klonopin use leading to something that genuinely "helps" you. It's a strong comfort med, but to continue to be on benzos would basically mean imo that you'd need to be on them for life. If you find a great doctor by all means get the script back to avoid any potential consequences with the law. However, most patients who are on benzodiazepines for a decade or longer tend to have an unstoppable tolerance in which high doses of xanax/klonopin won't even put a dent in their anxiety. They are not happy about their benzo dependency. The sad reality is that to this very day we do not truly have an anti-anxiety drug that works without appalling side effects. Gabapentin would definitely help with the anxiety you're facing currently and eventually I'd imagine some of that would even subside on its own.

Unless you're absolutely sure that you can find a very reliable klonopin source in the nearby future to pursue it would probably do more harm than good. It's not the easiest benzo to get your hands on. I do agree that it's the best one though.

 

[OpiatEuphoriaReturns]

When it comes to prescriptions many people get cozy--not realizing how shaky the health industry really can be sometimes. You can be totally complacent on a script only to have a doctor go to prison or relocate entirely. I know this because it happened to me (not benzos though). I've had friends with xanax or ativan scripts randomly be mysteriously replaced by gabapentin despite them not wanting anything to do with the gabapentin lol.

I know anxiety really sucks and I'm sure you're still experiencing some residual withdrawal (hence the more noticeable anxiety), but I can't see your klonopin use leading to something that genuinely "helps" you. It's a strong comfort med, but to continue to be on benzos would basically mean imo that you'd need to be on them for life. If you find a great doctor by all means get the script back to avoid any potential consequences with the law. However, most patients who are on benzodiazepines for a decade or longer tend to have an unstoppable tolerance in which high doses of xanax/klonopin won't even put a dent in their anxiety. They are not happy about their benzo dependency. The sad reality is that to this very day we do not truly have an anti-anxiety drug that works without appalling side effects. Gabapentin would definitely help with the anxiety you're facing currently and eventually I'd imagine some of that would even subside on its own.

Unless you're absolutely sure that you can find a very reliable klonopin source in the nearby future to pursue it would probably do more harm than good. It's not the easiest benzo to get your hands on. I do agree that it's the best one though.

That is a really well thought out reply I appreciate it.

I know that benzo tolerence and addiction is probably more harm than good compared to daily use of Klonopin. I do enjoy being off of it but I always come back to it eventually. '

I enjoy life with it and without it. And have experienced the highest of highs with it, and the lowest of lows. I am also really happy I no longer withdrawal from it and it is most likely some acute symptoms here and there.

I sleep pretty good and have dreams again which can be nice.

If I can get a script for it again I would probably just take it for life at 0.5mgs a day but that sounds so glim and dreary. I always want to eventually get off of it and it is a mind battle for sure. But I was curious why it just went away so easily and became so incredibly difficult to get it back. I didn't lose it for any odd reason, I just switched doctors and I couldn't get it back without seeing a psych and that didn't even work. Then I eventually started on Suboxone which was super easy to get.

 

[OpiatEuphoriaReturns]

I just grabbed up 30 1mg Klonopin, 10 1mg Xanax and 10 10mg Valium and 5 Ambien, and I feel a ton better after I took 0.5mgs of Clonzaepam. I hate this makes me feel so normal and love life but I know if I take these everyday I will feel worse than when I was off of them for 4 or 5 months straight. And as an addict I know nothing will stop me from taking all of these everyday so I hope I can take these when I feel like I need them not everyday.
I just hate how these doctors won't give us what we have been prescribed for so long. We know what is best for us not them.
Also, my name is OpiatEuphoria because I used to have a account here since 2009, but I cannot access it anymore. I forgot the password and I guess I didn't have this email 11 years ago, but I could have sworn I did. I wish I could talk to a mod about this.

 

[GetMeOutOfThisCRAP]

In my opinion the suboxone is more important to maintain on a regular basis ironically. This is because once people are no longer on suboxone they do tend to relapse and that can lead to dangerous issues. People mostly overdose when returning to opiates not when they're on them frequently.

If you're not seizing out or suffering from any of the way worse benzo wd symptoms (like brain zaps) then you're generally in the okay area of the topic. I'd be way more concerned you were in danger of seizing out. You've got some room for error I guess but I would try to use them less and less recreationally and only when you really need them imo. I have the same experience with opioids. I like being off them but miss elements of their euphoria that makes me feel "normal" or in my mind the best version of myself. When in reality I'm just high and in a good mood for no reason which is unproductive and stupid. I think there is a difference between anxiety and the paranoia that the government is reading your mind with a tin foil satellite (those thoughts require benzos).

You're at a point where you can control where it leads. Cuz 10 years down the line if you're still dependent on benzos there may be no going back. Some addictions are about the longer haul.

 

[OpiatEuphoriaReturns]

In my opinion the suboxone is more important to maintain on a regular basis ironically. This is because once people are no longer on suboxone they do tend to relapse and that can lead to dangerous issues. People mostly overdose when returning to opiates not when they're on them frequently.

If you're not seizing out or suffering from any of the way worse benzo wd symptoms (like brain zaps) then you're generally in the okay area of the topic. I'd be way more concerned you were in danger of seizing out. You've got some room for error I guess but I would try to use them less and less recreationally and only when you really need them imo. I have the same experience with opioids. I like being off them but miss elements of their euphoria that makes me feel "normal" or in my mind the best version of myself. When in reality I'm just high and in a good mood for no reason which is unproductive and stupid. I think there is a difference between anxiety and the paranoia that the government is reading your mind with a tin foil satellite (those thoughts require benzos).

Yeah you are probably right. I do feel wonderful when I am on them. Then after time I feel just normal without feeling my heart beating out of my chest whenever I get slightly anxious and I have found a lot of natural ways to diminish that.
If I can get a script I will continue to use them, recreational use when I can get them which is 0.5mgs a day when I can actually get a hold of them, I rarely go over that.
But I do appreciate the responses you seem really intelligent about it all.

 

[TheInvisibleStoner]

You are in a catch 22. I lost my xanax script some years back. Tried so many doctors. They won't deal with you when on opiates.

For me the situation got so bad and desperate I just said fuck it and kicked methadone. Found a doctor that said once I am off methadone, can bring a letter from my clinic showing my dose dates, piss clean every time, he will help me. Actually haven't gotten back to him due to covid and have plenty of xanax for now. But was the 1 time I got a doctor to agree to help me over the phone.

But no doc will risk their practice on a junkie. While I am certain you would never OD on your kpin and subs, the average doc is scared you will.

I guess you can try lying, but have a feeling that won't turn out so well or will be very temporary until drop you / check records / etc.

Good luck.

 

[OpiatEuphoriaReturns]

You are in a catch 22. I lost my xanax script some years back. Tried so many doctors. They won't deal with you when on opiates.

For me the situation got so bad and desperate I just said fuck it and kicked methadone. Found a doctor that said once I am off methadone, can bring a letter from my clinic showing my dose dates, piss clean every time, he will help me. Actually haven't gotten back to him due to covid and have plenty of xanax for now. But was the 1 time I got a doctor to agree to help me over the phone.

But no doc will risk their practice on a junkie. While I am certain you would never OD on your kpin and subs, the average doc is scared you will.

I guess you can try lying, but have a feeling that won't turn out so well or will be very temporary until drop you / check records / etc.

Good luck.

I appreciate the advice. That is the first time someone has ever suggested dropping the Suboxone. But any other doctor I go to doesn't know I'm on Suboxone right?
I mean I pay cash to my Suboxone doctor so I assume they don't know. But maybe they do, I use my insurance to get it at the pharmacy and when I get codeine from my dentist my sub doctor knows with the identification system.
I wouldn't be able to drop them. But I was talking to my buddy I got those Valium, Ambien, Xanax and Adderall from and he said there is a doctor down the street from where we live that takes cash to see you and he prescribes it no questions asked. Is there really doctors like that or is that bullshit? My Suboxone doctor doesn't care if I get benzos. She just won't script them to me.
Thanks again for the advice. I wish I could drop the Suboxone but 4mgs in the morning with 0.5mg Klonopin is my daily driver for so many years idk if I could drop the biggest one. I also haven't touched opiates I'm 6 years either. So I wouldn't want to risk it.

 

[TheInvisibleStoner]

Well I didn't really say to drop the subs. I don't know your situation. Just saying its the opiate stigma causing this nonsense. Sure you can easily not mention anything. I never did to my quack doc that scripted me xanax back. Just seems things have changed.

Just saying if you could drop the opiates it would be easier. Perhaps I am just cursed with luck and will never get a script again. I know many people who have docs that give scripts while they are on methadone. Its just hard. He either has to be a quack or you have to build a relationship with him so he trusts you. But have tried calling all these quacks and nothing. I was thinking to find a quack and fake an injury so he knows me for a bit. Dunno. SUCKS. I simply kicked since I cant take this shit any longer.

Check this out. This was like 4? years back. Same situation. I found a private "addiction specialist" cash only $350. Called her and said she will help me. Went, paid $350, spoke to her. She wanted to script me lexapro and seraquil. I was like are you fucking crazy? I am already on 3 drugs. You want to make it 5? And what about the xanax I asked? Oh...once on the other meds you wont need it. I laughed and walked out. I didn't even get my money back.

 

[OpiatEuphoriaReturns]

Well I didn't really say to drop the subs. I don't know your situation. Just saying its the opiate stigma causing this nonsense. Sure you can easily not mention anything. I never did to my quack doc that scripted me xanax back. Just seems things have changed.

Just saying if you could drop the opiates it would be easier. Perhaps I am just cursed with luck and will never get a script again. I know many people who have docs that give scripts while they are on methadone. Its just hard. He either has to be a quack or you have to build a relationship with him so he trusts you. But have tried calling all these quacks and nothing. I was thinking to find a quack and fake an injury so he knows me for a bit. Dunno. SUCKS. I simply kicked since I cant take this shit any longer.

Well my doctor that scripts me subs isn't even a sub doctor. She works part time at a methadone clinic I started at for about 6 months on subs where they would give me a weeks worth of subs every week and then I would come back after the first week of dailies.
After 6 months of passed drug tests, having a good career and wife and kids waiting for me outside every morning, this doctor took me aside with my counselor and told me to go to her private practice. She only takes a few a year that are in good standing with her, and that's it.
That was over 2 years ago. I have yet to fail a drug test since except for Klonopin. And she quietly will ask me each time if I'm still on "the B's" and I will say yeah if I can afford to get them or find them but like always I hate talking to street people and wish I had my script back. It's so infuriating that she won't just give me 0.5mgs a day and I would be finished talking to street people every month to get them at way higher the price. Maybe next month I will ask her if she will give me a script for them. I don't think I've ever actually asked her, just hinted at it strongly because that's how I've always gotten scripts. She's a family physician with that 6 hour sub degree thing. Also even on the subs I've never been higher than 10mgs and after a year I told them to drop me to 8mg that 10mg wasn't needed anymore. I'm not a super hard drug user and I never fail for anything but benzos and she knows I don't over take them. I see her every month and things are always fine with me. Maybe I need to directly answer her since we have gotten quite close for awhile. I did tell her awhile back that if I can't get benzos maybe she could get me gabapentin and she gave me 300mgs twice a day which quickly didn't do anything anymore. I think she will always be afraid to just script them to me and if I find another doctor that gives me benzos I promise she won't care she probably will be happy she doesn't have to script them to me.

 

[TheInvisibleStoner]

I would ask. Worst she can say is no. Convince her you just need a minimal amount, getting it on the street is putting you at risk, you are willing to drop every time you come in, even any time she calls you will be there in 24 hours to drop. She may trust you and script it. All these docs can script it, just takes 1. Until they retire lol....

 

[OpiatEuphoriaReturns]

I would ask. Worst she can say is no. Convince her you just need a minimal amount, getting it on the street is putting you at risk, you are willing to drop every time you come in, even any time she calls you will be there in 24 hours to drop. She may trust you and script it. All these docs can script it, just takes 1. Until they retire lol....

I will ask her this month if she will script it I will continue to always drug test negative for everything for 0.5mg of Klonopin a day, and she knows I already drug test fine no problem.

 

[xbandit07x]

Enough doctors are easy to get benzos from as long as you aren't into other drugs.

Wait for them to become legalized without a prescription or if had in the past otherwise.

 

[Keif' Richards]

Guys, I have to say that I dont like the idea of a thread dedicated solely to doctors and their willingness to prescribe. It is nothing personal, but it kind of goes against a lot of what we are trying to do in the Harm Reduction forums.

We dont like threads dedicated to acquiring drugs and this is essentially that. I didnt see this when it started so I'm not gonna delete all of your guys' conversations.

Please just keep this in mind for future threads. Try to make sure that your threads are dedicated to the reduction of Harm in relation to people using drugs. If you have questions about how to use Clonazepam (Klonopin), we can definitely do that, but please dont make threads dedicated to the procurement of drugs please.

 

[OpiatEuphoriaReturns]

Guys, I have to say that I dont like the idea of a thread dedicated solely to doctors and their willingness to prescribe. It is nothing personal, but it kind of goes against a lot of what we are trying to do in the Harm Reduction forums.

We dont like threads dedicated to acquiring drugs and this is essentially that. I didnt see this when it started so I'm not gonna delete all of your guys' conversations.

Please just keep this in mind for future threads. Try to make sure that your threads are dedicated to the reduction of Harm in relation to people using drugs. If you have questions about how to use Clonazepam (Klonopin), we can definitely do that, but please dont make threads dedicated to the procurement of drugs please.

Appreciate it and honestly this thread helped. I just asked my doctor after so many years of passed drug tests and I was prescribed my Klonopin back.
But I originally made this thread to see if many others were having problems before asking because it seems doctors don't want to give benzos to Suboxone patients. And then the other half I see is almost all of them get it. So I wanted some personal experiences not how to guide. Either way no worries. I didn't get any answers I was looking for and was going to ask for it back this month anyway.

 

[OntarioGuy]

if you are in canada there are clearnet vendors who take much more convenient payment than crypto that sell etizolam. im prescribed clonazepam and actually am forced to buy etizolam from legal clearnet vendors all the time. in fact im waiting on 500 mg of pure etizolam powder and a bottle of 1 mg/ml solution which i will use to try and titrate my dosage down i hope...

 

[Survival0200]

I understand clonazepam is quite a popular and frequently prescribed medication? According to Wikipedia: "In 2017, it was the 34th most commonly prescribed medication in the United States, with more than 20 million prescriptions." That's a lot of prescriptions!

 

[Drag2019]

Luckily I was prescribed my Benzos before I got prescribed Opioids for pain and they very reluctantly did it. If it was the other way around I don't think they would have allowed me to get on benzos. At first, I was only using my Benzos once every 7 days as required use for anxiety or sleep. Yet they kept telling me "Oh it's dangerous to do it that way it's safer for you to take your Benzos daily" which is true. Using Benzos and Opioids together only works if you got a tolerance from daily use for both. Yet now I'm physically dependent on fucking Benzos which I wished I never ever went on and that I didn't get on as high of a dose of Opioids as I did I probably could have got by on way less or preferably things like Cannabis with GABAPentin and Soma and all the other alternatives.

I'm not just worried but I'm scared shitless that when my Dr. that gave my benzo script retires and whoever replaces him as my Dr. will be a quack telling me "Oh you can't be on Opioids and Benzos together" and rapidly wean me off, doing it completely wrong instead of letting me do it slowly and properly.

 

[OpiatEuphoriaReturns]

Well I didn't really say to drop the subs. I don't know your situation. Just saying its the opiate stigma causing this nonsense. Sure you can easily not mention anything. I never did to my quack doc that scripted me xanax back. Just seems things have changed.

Just saying if you could drop the opiates it would be easier. Perhaps I am just cursed with luck and will never get a script again. I know many people who have docs that give scripts while they are on methadone. Its just hard. He either has to be a quack or you have to build a relationship with him so he trusts you. But have tried calling all these quacks and nothing. I was thinking to find a quack and fake an injury so he knows me for a bit. Dunno. SUCKS. I simply kicked since I cant take this shit any longer.

Check this out. This was like 4? years back. Same situation. I found a private "addiction specialist" cash only $350. Called her and said she will help me. Went, paid $350, spoke to her. She wanted to script me lexapro and seraquil. I was like are you fucking crazy? I am already on 3 drugs. You want to make it 5? And what about the xanax I asked? Oh...once on the other meds you wont need it. I laughed and walked out. I didn't even get my money back.

So I asked my doctor and she said I needed to see a psychiatrist to get them prescribed again. So I just saw a psychiatrist and they gave me Zoloft for the anxiety even though I said I tried Lexapro and it killed me with side effects and I have Klonopin on file as being prescribed for almost 4 years.

I think after 3 weeks of "taking" the Zoloft I will return and say it had bad side effects and did not help with the anxiety and maybe that will get me another step closer to just getting 0.5mg of Klonopin a day prescribed and go back to normal.
That is how it happened a long time ago. They try SSRIs and eventually give you benzos after awhile or short time trying SSRIs.