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Kinda new to MDMA, had a bit of a strange one...

clarkey1984

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Hi everyone, as you can see i am new here, i have been searching around the web for any help on the experiance i had on friday but nothing really covered it, so i thought i would post here. :)

Well, i have only started taking MDMA this year, and have only done it about 5 or 6 times, and always buy from the same trusted source, however, friday night was a bit, erm, different...

The only thing i did differently was didnt drink any alcohol all last week and took multivitamins and multiminerals daily as i read that this can make the rush better, i also didnt drink any alcohol on the night i took it, as i have usually had a few pints, i thought id go for a nice clean high.

So, i bought half a gram, made it into 2 bombs and dropped one bomb as normal, some would say that 250mg at once is quite an amount for someone that only weighs about 65kg, but even from the very first try, any lesser an amount and i dont come up properly.

Anyway, usually, after about half an hour i start to feel it and come up nicely over the space of about 5 to 10 minutes, the rush starts to build in the back of my neck and head, the fuzzy feeling comes in and i make my way to the dancefloor, but this time, from starting to feel it, to being totally f**ked took about a minute, i was outside smoking a cigarette when it started to kick in, and by the time i got up the staircase, into the rave and to the chairs by the bar i was off the planet, scarily so, the back of my neck and my head were rushing like mad, way more than usual, plus felt like they were burning from the inside, my vision was everywhere, i was totally mashed.

After a few minutes sitting down i thought i was over the initial rush, so went to go downstairs again to get some water, how wrong i was, once i got to the stairs, every step was like a mountain, the floor was moving, weird, managed to get to the toilets, then it got really freaky...

as i stood in the cubicle with the toilet in front of me, it was as if i was 20 feet tall, the toilet looked miles and miles away, such a long way down, the walls were pulsing and moving, flashing different colours, some sort of psychedelia, then as i walked out of the cubicle i saw one of my friends washing his hands, and looking at his hands they were like a blur, moving so so fast that i couldnt see them, the weirdest bit being when he spoke to me, i was looking right at him, and he said "you alright mate" and i heard it at normal speed, but watching his mouth move it was like he said it really fast like it was speeded up "youalrightmate" then time sort of jumped back and then he was in the middle of saying it, then we'd jumped forward half a second and he had finished talking and was waiting for my answer, i have heard of eye wiggles before, could this have been what i was experiencing?

Then i managed to get myself back into the rave, and the music sounded so so strange, blurred warped and echoey, very odd indeed, i thought i wanted to go home, i wanted to go to sleep, i wanted to go to hospital, but all within the space of about 2 seconds, i had no idea what i wanted, then a mate thrust a fresh bottle of ice cold water in my hand, took my other hand in hers and pulled me to the dancefloor, then said in my ear, you are f**ked, but drink this, slowly, and dance it off, you will be fine.

So i made my way with her to the edge of the dancefloor, i attempted to dance but was doing so with one side of me leaning against the wall because the ground might as well have been a bouncy castle at this point, warping around everywhere under my feet, this continued for about 15 minutes, then i needed the toilet, the ground was fairly static at this point so making my way downstairs was easier, walked through the downstairs bar (the rave was in a seperate part of the club) and it felt like every single person was staring at me, then i got in the bathroom, and the dreaded pee block, dying to go, but cant, tried for about 10 minutes, went outside and had a cigerette, then all the crazy feelings washed away and i felt like i normally do, up and loving it!

Id say the whole overload trippy bit lasted for about an hour or so, although even 3 or 4 hours after dropping it i had the odd trip out moment, one of my mates walked past and i swear he had a giant plaster stuck on his forehead, then i look again and he didnt, then later on a lad was seemingly wearing those comedy glasses with a giant nose and mustache attached to them, but i blink and no he isnt, then there was a girl who was wearing a mini pink cowboy hat, look back again and it wasnt there.

So, is this what MDMA usually does to you, as ive never been tripping out like that on it before, although im guessing that no alcohol plus the multivits and minerals i had all week may have helped refresh my body so i rushed off it harder than normal, maybe this is why, god only knows, but this has certianly made me think twice about doing it again for a while, as that first hour scared the shit out of me and it was NOT a nice feeling at all.

Many thanks in advance.
 
That first bit is one of my favourite parts of high doses. I had the exact same thing, not knowing which is up or down, trouble walking stairs and shit, everything being trippy. Only difference I had severe hallucinations and blackouts to go along with it and it lasted 5-6 hours. I'd say for high doses of MDMA it's perfectly normal to experience psychedelic visuals and all that jazz. Especially when taking half a gram of MDMA. That is a BIG dose buddy. My guess is that the alcohol numbed your experience the first few times, or you just got ahold of some GOOD MDMA this time. Simply lower the dosage if you want a clean trip. 150-200 MG's at most is perfect.
 
250mgs of MDMA for a new user (absolutely no offense meant) is a very high dose - If I took 250mgs of (nice) MDMA as an initial dose I would be wiped out (ish)! (please bear in mind that I do not use MDMA every week/month etc). Do the effects that you mention raise alarm bells for me - not really / the dose you took dose though!

The rest of your experience (to me) are pretty normal for somebody who has taken a high dose of MDMA.

Just for information - a nice / standard starting dose is between 90 -150 mgs / if your taking more than this (and not a big build person) then you either have - adulterated gear / tolerance!
 
Thanks guys, i think the dosage must have been too much, as i have normally had a coupla beers beforehand, maybe that has masked some of the rush as mentioned, definitely time to lower my dosage methinks, when my mate who i got it off saw me she was like shit, how much did you do? i was like, erm, half of it, she was like no, thats too much you nutter!

I think she was right, although after about 3 maybe 4 hours it was all over and i levelled back out again, then stupidly did the other 250mg, which didnt really do anything at all, except make me gurn everywhere and be even more unable to go to the toilet, shoulda saved it back for next month or something, what a waste.
 
Thanks guys, i think the dosage must have been too much, as i have normally had a coupla beers beforehand, maybe that has masked some of the rush as mentioned, definitely time to lower my dosage methinks, when my mate who i got it off saw me she was like shit, how much did you do? i was like, erm, half of it, she was like no, thats too much you nutter!

I think she was right.

Lol - for sure :) - I have spent many a night hugging the walls due to taking too much. The problem is the strength of crystals / molly going around - yes you can test it and get the same reactions. If your a casual user do not (unless your a big person) dose over 100/120mgs.
 
IMO thats a bit extreme isn't it Bearlove? I'm not big and 120 mg's didn't get me off my first time, and that shit was half a speaker... Everyone responds different to dosage... I think the one who is able to judge how much to take is clarkey himself. I think he learned his lesson from this one hehehe.
 
IMO thats a bit extreme isn't it Bearlove? I'm not big and 120 mg's didn't get me off my first time, and that shit was half a speaker... Everyone responds different to dosage... I think the one who is able to judge how much to take is clarkey himself. I think he learned his lesson from this one hehehe.


Is it ? I posted my comment based on a few years of experience - a lot of US posters were posting 'OMFG' best roll ever (check the pokeball reports - which were lab tested at 90mgs) - added to that a lot of European users rating pills that were lab tested at 120mg as high. (speakers were not 240mgs!)
 
Yeah normal stuff Clarkey, you took a big whack. Best off doing key bumps until you get Where you wanna be, you can always do More but you cant do less once you've done it. I've overrushed on molly before and its not too pleasant.
 
Just for shits n giggles - and Copied directly from 'Erowid' (and as I suggested not to take more than 120mgs as a starter dose I dont find my reply as extreme at all)

MDMA generally comes in the form of small tablets, capsules, or white powder. When found in tablet form (often referred to as "ecstasy"), it is common for MDMA to be combined with any of the following substances : MDMA, Caffeine, MDA, Methamphetamine, DXM, MDE, Pseudo/Ephedrine, Ketamine, BZP, and TFMPP. Chemical analysis of ecstasy tablets has found from 0 - 120 mg of MDMA as well as a variety of the above substances. Trying to calculate dosages from tablets containing unknown quantities of MDMA can be difficult, but a high quality tablet of street ecstasy (those containing MDMA alone) generally contains an average of 60 to 80 mg of MDMA. The chart below shows what are considered recreational/therapeutic dosages for pure MDMA HCl (the most common crystalline form), measured in milligrams. Note that most Ecstasy and even crystalline MDMA is not 100% pure and may contain fillers or other drugs. See EcstasyData.org.

Oral MDMA Dosages
Threshold 30 mg
Light 40 - 75 mg
Common (small or sensitive people) 60 - 90 mg
Common (most people) 75 - 125 mg
Common (large or less sensitive people) 110 - 150 mg
Strong 150 - 200 mg
Heavy 200 + mg

Onset : 20 - 70 minutes (depending on form and stomach contents)
Duration : 3 - 5 hours
Normal After Effects : up to 24 hours
 
you from the UK?

if so do you weigh your 'grams' up to see how much you've actually got and also weigh up your bombs properly. in a lot of areas of the UK a 'gram' is 0.7-0.8g, they usually don't tell you because it's common knowledge and everyone is expected to know but if you're new to the whole thing you might not know that.
 
Yeah im from the UK, i gather we are lucky over here when it comes to the availability of MDMA.

It was all weighed up in front of me before we went out, 0.98, close enough, although when splitting it into 2 bombs i just did it by eye.

The person i get it from lives just around the corner from the venue, her flat is where the pre party and usual after sesh takes place, plus its where i crash out after as the raves are about 50 miles from where i live, plus i help out at them, as my aforementioned mate is the person who runs the raves as well, im often running about with sets of moniters, getting CDJ's and wiring set up, sound checking etc, the rave started at half 9 on friday, i was there from 6, and didnt stop chasing around until about half 10, then was on the door sorting out the money and wristbands and stuff until about half 12 ish, plus the doormen/bouncers are sound as a pound, they know that the vast majority of people get well twisted at raves and seeing people on stuff really doesnt bother them which is good.
 
Just for shits n giggles - and Copied directly from 'Erowid' (and as I suggested not to take more than 120mgs as a starter dose I dont find my reply as extreme at all)

MDMA generally comes in the form of small tablets, capsules, or white powder. When found in tablet form (often referred to as "ecstasy"), it is common for MDMA to be combined with any of the following substances : MDMA, Caffeine, MDA, Methamphetamine, DXM, MDE, Pseudo/Ephedrine, Ketamine, BZP, and TFMPP. Chemical analysis of ecstasy tablets has found from 0 - 120 mg of MDMA as well as a variety of the above substances. Trying to calculate dosages from tablets containing unknown quantities of MDMA can be difficult, but a high quality tablet of street ecstasy (those containing MDMA alone) generally contains an average of 60 to 80 mg of MDMA. The chart below shows what are considered recreational/therapeutic dosages for pure MDMA HCl (the most common crystalline form), measured in milligrams. Note that most Ecstasy and even crystalline MDMA is not 100% pure and may contain fillers or other drugs. See EcstasyData.org.

Oral MDMA Dosages
Threshold 30 mg
Light 40 - 75 mg
Common (small or sensitive people) 60 - 90 mg
Common (most people) 75 - 125 mg
Common (large or less sensitive people) 110 - 150 mg
Strong 150 - 200 mg
Heavy 200 + mg

Onset : 20 - 70 minutes (depending on form and stomach contents)
Duration : 3 - 5 hours
Normal After Effects : up to 24 hours
Hm okay... I don't know anyone who does 120 mg's tbh. Most just take 1 pill (which is about 150-200 here), first timers aswell and they love it..
 
Yeah im from the UK, i gather we are lucky over here when it comes to the availability of MDMA.

It was all weighed up in front of me before we went out, 0.98, close enough, although when splitting it into 2 bombs i just did it by eye.

The person i get it from lives just around the corner from the venue, her flat is where the pre party and usual after sesh takes place, plus its where i crash out after as the raves are about 50 miles from where i live, plus i help out at them, as my aforementioned mate is the person who runs the raves as well, im often running about with sets of moniters, getting CDJ's and wiring set up, sound checking etc, the rave started at half 9 on friday, i was there from 6, and didnt stop chasing around until about half 10, then was on the door sorting out the money and wristbands and stuff until about half 12 ish, plus the doormen/bouncers are sound as a pound, they know that the vast majority of people get well twisted at raves and seeing people on stuff really doesnt bother them which is good.

What scene you into pal?
 
The raves scene, predominantly uk hardcore, but i have been known to attend the odd drum n bass event too :)

This pretty much sums it up in one video...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbIAim3xSfs

As you can imagine, rushing on MD with light effects and fast paced music such as this feels pretty good :)

Woooo, HTID ;). Nice to see a fellow hardcore raver on here, I fear people are too irresponsible in Hardcore.
 
Hm okay... I don't know anyone who does 120 mg's tbh. Most just take 1 pill (which is about 150-200 here), first timers aswell and they love it..

one pill = 150 / 200 mgs where are you? The last few high dose pills that went around (Defcon, speakers, fast forwards, Elephants, Squirrel, Malcom X etc) were not all 200 mgs per pill and the MG's they contained were hardly 'common place' (If only:D). I will stand by my statement and say 100 / 120mgs for a casual user is a decent / high dose!

Don't forget this is a harm reduction forum and I would always suggest people to take the least amount of MG's possible to get wasted - Yes I understand that some people need / enjoy taking a lot more than what I suggested but I certainly would never suggest a new / casual user to take more than 120mgs as a starting dose. 80 / 120 mgs have both been reported as a OMFG experience !
 
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I would say that 125mg is a perfect dose.... and Dezz, those Speakers were like 180... so half would only be like 90mg, not 120.


Someone with no tolerance could roll pretty damn hard off like 60mg, no joke... I never dose over 150mg at once, it just gets me too messed up and I can't function. Although OP, I must say that sounds a lot more psychedelic than an MDMA experience.... but I've gotten things like that after a lot of MDA, never on the come up though.


Be sure to test your stuff OP! Not just for quality... but purity as well! If your used to taken 200mg of "molly" that's actually 100mg MDMA and 100mg baking soda, obviously you wouldn't need that much if you got uncut stuff

testing kits can be found at dancesafe.org, they will tell you if you have REAL ecstasy or fake shit
 
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Mine was uncut, at least i think anyway, pure crystalline stuff, plus my mate is renowned for getting really good stuff too, never heard anyone have a bad word to say about anything sourced through her, but yeah as you have all said, maybe do a quarter of my half next time, 125 sounds a nice amount.
 
+1 ^ this. The last thing you want is to unknowingly take too much of something that isn't what you thought. Done this and got stung with piperazines and was ill for 3 days, that shit is poison!
 
Mine was uncut, at least i think anyway, pure crystalline stuff, plus my mate is renowned for getting really good stuff too, never heard anyone have a bad word to say about anything sourced through her, but yeah as you have all said, maybe do a quarter of my half next time, 125 sounds a nice amount.

the golden rule is don't trust what people say about your pills/MD, because people don't know shit.

i would have done BZP on new years eve if i'd listened to people telling me it was "proper good stuff"
 
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