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theundecided

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Hey,

So my friend and I were looking for MDMA. I found a somewhat random dealer in my university and doubted it would actually be MDMA. I tested it and my suspicions were true- it was not MDMA. I used the bunk police marquis test and it merely fizzed for a decently long time (20 seconds) and there was no color change. I also licked one of the rocks and it tasted sour/nasty so this is all pointing to these rocks being BZP.
I plan on taking .13mg-.15mg weighed out with my own scale.
There are two things I need to ask.

1. Is there any way to tell if I actually have BZP and not a different type of piperazine. I really don't mind taking BZP because it is supposed to be amphetamine-like (which I enjoy) but I do not want to take any of the trippy-er piperazines because I had a bad experience on shrooms and really do not think hallucinogenics is my thing. I assume it doesn't have much or any of the other piperzaine although there are no listed reactions for other piperazines on the marquis test list. I also assume the trippy piperazines do not even stack up against the trippyness of good hydro shrooms?

2. I am slightly nervous about taking it. I've read A LOT of mixed reviews. Some say it's fun, some say it's terrible. However, it seems to be a consensus that if you dose properly and remain hydrated you can have a pretty good night on them. This would be my first time trying something like this outside of adderall so you can imagine I'm nervous/scared. Should I just not take them? Can being nervous ruin your time on BZP like it can shrooms (as stated above I did not enjoy shrooms lol. Had a slight freakout on the come up)

Thanks for any input
 
Throw it out, if it's BZP or any other piperazine just chuck it cause I've heard endless bad stories about them. Just try and score from someone/somewhere else (there's a vast WEB of connections out there ;) if you get me), test again, and hopefully you'll be good this time
 
I don't know if I want to completely give up on the possibility of trying it because BZP alone is supposed to be a pleasant stimulant and I enjoy stimulants.
Most reports I've read who experienced bad side effects had one or more things in common
1) They didn't know they had BZP and thus were expecting something else
2) Dosed as if it were something other than BZP which means they probably dosed over the recommended ranges for BZP
3) Drank alcohol on top of it and/or did nothing to minimize dehydration (which attributes to excessive nausea, vomiting, headaches, hangovers, etc.)

IS there anyone on here who has tried BZP safely and had a bad time?
Or is BZP simply not enjoyable? Again, I have read very mixed reviews.
I'm also mostly concerned with it having other pipes other than BZP, would those show up on a marquis test or no?
 
It's not worth it toss it..... Just for hr sake it could be some other deadly compound. Look up the darknet..... If you can't figure that out than wait till molly comes to you as seeking it out leads to bs usually. Or else go to an electronic music event with some test kit although don't get more than a gram or two or ten pills... That's a lot of money and you don't want to get robbed.
 
It's definitely not some random deadly compound. The main component of this pill is BZP and I have friends who took some before me and they could not even discern it from MDMA (or they never have had real MDMA to begin with).
I read that the fact it took so long to finally stop fizzing means it has some MDxx in it but marquiz tests only pick up the major drug in the pills? Is this correct?
 
No. MDMA reaction is purple to black. The fizz is secondary that could occur with other chemicals. I 4th the idea of chucking it. I did A BZP pill once. Single dose. Miserable
Night.
 
If they can't discern BZP from MDMA they've never had MDMA. The feel of MDMA is very unique and I can easily discern it from perhaps (at least one of) it's most closely related cousins Methylone/bk-MDMA.. Unless you're stupid the difference is obvious. Seriously just chuck it out, try and get MDMA elsewhere (darknet), test it, if it's purple/black.. Weigh out 1/8th of a gram, drop it and you're set
 
I read that no deaths have been reported from a sole dose of BZP, altho there have been 2 deaths from BZP combined with MDMA.
I would post the link but BL isn't letting my copy/paste stuff into the text box and i dont feel like typing it out one character at a time.

It does, according to my research, appear to be addictive tho.
 
Yeah I'm sure those two deaths were because the people took way too much and/or combined it with other things suck as alcohol.
I thought BZP was not addictive, at least no more addictive than any other amphetamine such as adderall or pure amphetamine salts.
I really am not concerned about becoming addicted though. This is really a rare thing for me to be trying molly. My friends have been doing it for years.
Even so, I'm going to treat this BZP as MDMA and wait at least four months before considering doing it again.
Even then I probably won't.

I also believe these pills have small traces of MDMA because I believe I read somewhere that when it fizzes for a really long time it usually means its BZP plus some MDMA although I could be wrong
 
You are wrong the fizzing is from the hcl salt it is bonded to (Lots of substances fizz when tested.) Mdma will react purple/black with the marquis.
You should just chuck it though bzp really really sucks.
 
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