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Kind of in a bad state of mind...would shrooms be a bad idea?

tom landers

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I'm going to make this short:
So basically, I've got a lot of stuff on my mind. The thing is, most the stuff is negative, I didnt do so hot in school, shit came up with friends, etc etc...
MY question is, would it be a bad idea to take an 8th of shrooms?
I ask this because I remember the first time i did shrooms, one of my friends was at a pretty shitty point in his life, and he had a terrible trip. I know its all mindset but I feel like even if I try to go in with a good mind set, the other thoughts might creep out and fuck me up haha.
Advice, similar stories? thanks for your time.
oh also, I popped a few tabs of e on new years (just in case that might effect anything?)
 
I would say that the trip could and most probably would very easily bring out those negative emotions. It could be a "horrible" experience but you could also learn a lot from it. But on the other hand, it could go severely wrong and have some major consequences.

If I were you, I would refrain from taking the mushrooms at this point in your life. I think it is important to have a positive mindset when taking psychedelics, especially mushrooms. The negative emotions could be overwhelming for you and could possibly lead to some harm to yourself, physically, or mentally.
 
well there are two ways to look at this. Generally most people would consider this a bad idea because psychedelics make it easy for issues you may need to deal with coming to the forefront of your consciousness. This could make for an unpleasant evening, to say the least.

Others would say for the same reason, that this could be a good thing because you may be forced to deal with some issues you're avoiding.

It really depends on the type of trip you're looking for. If you just wanna have happy, goofy fun with a few friends, maybe have a few insights about the nature of life, the universe & everything (;)) probably not a good idea. If you are looking to do a trip alone or with a sitter where you sit back & try and work through some mental issues, maybe have a good cry etc, then not so bad an idea.
 
It really depends on the type of trip you're looking for. If you just wanna have happy, goofy fun with a few friends, maybe have a few insights about the nature of life, the universe & everything (;)) probably not a good idea. If you are looking to do a trip alone or with a sitter where you sit back & try and work through some mental issues, maybe have a good cry etc, then not so bad an idea.

It sounds like the OP is worried the negative thoughts he is having have any chance of affecting his experience, rather than their being any kind of motivation to have the experience in the first place. If that's the case, the answer is yes, yes yes they will. Especially after seeing your friend go through the same thing. I know us saying this won't help that, but given that you look like you're making a decision (rather than looking for some kind of excuse), you should know that if these thoughts come up during your trip it could take a turn for the worse.

My vote would be work through your issues with a therapist or a friend until you have the confidence to take the journey with a positive frame of mind.
 
I tripped a few days ago after a really bad breakup. I thought it would help me have fun and stop thinking about the shit. Whoa...bad...idea. Not good at all. I kept thinking I was going to have a heart attack because I was so hurt and the thoughts wouldn't go away. I've tripped before when I was younger, so I'm not new to it, but it was not a good experience.
 
Iv'e had multiple times when I triped when going though some bad shit and ended up haveing a bad trip that turned into a good one that changed me for the better. There is also the chance a bad trip could only hurt you.

I have also had times when I triped when going though some shit and was able to just ignore all the bs and have fun .


It is really up to you and how bad your issues are, do you feel that they may come out and if they do will you be able to deal with them.
 
Sometimes when your in such a tough spot mentally, a low dose mushroom trip with some headie ganja will help sort out your problems mentally. Note i said sometimes.

Personally i would recommend 4-Aco-Dmt for sorting out problems in the mushroom fashion. Less mind fuck, very beautiful visuals, still very similar to mushrooms as it converts to Piclsocin when crossed by the blood brain bariar.

Last time i ingested 4-aco-dmt was a low dose, 5mgs with some proper ganja, and it was such a light psychedelic mind state that i could control my emotions and find the root of the emotion weather it be negative or positive. PM me if you want.
 
It's very possible that it will be an unpleasant experience. It's also very possible that it will help you re-evaluate your situation/life in a meaningful way.

If you're willing to undergo a painful experience, it's almost likely to help you out in the end.
 
if you have to ask a question like this then in general the answer would be yes, you shouldnt dose. BUT if you are familiar with psychedelics, are comfterable and familiar with where strong psychedelics will take you when they go wrong, are aware and able to take what needs to be taken away from the experience, are completely openminded, and in no doubts of that what is about to happen is what you really want to happen, then I would say dose away. Personal experiences? It would be far to personal for me to explain to what kind of bad mind frames ive been in when I dosed psychedelics, but needless to say some have been very, very bad. One in particular, I took 5 grams of mushrooms about 2 hours after I found out one of my best friends had overdosed and died. Now I cant recommend that to any one, but what I can say is that even in that state I was able to have an extremely healing, albeit extremel ydifficult to handle overwhelmingly positive trip... But I was pure in my intentions, no doubts in my mind, I knew what had to happen in that trip had to happen.

Bottom line: If you are not 100% sure you want to trip, you should not
 
I agree with what was mentioned above, that it really depends on what type of trip you are hoping to have. If you are looking for a good time, then now may not be the best time to do so.

If you are willing to dive in and feel whatever pain and fear you encounter, then that can be extremely therapeutic. Facing these things head on can prevent us from spending all our energy running away from them. I'm hesitant to take LSD because the last time I was huddled on my sofa for hours praying for it to end. But overall it was a very beneficial experience, and I will most likely do it again quite soon.

So yeah ask yourself what you want out of it, then you will have your answer :)
 
thanks for all the input. I sort of decided i wasnt going to take them but i was having 2nd thoughts. After reading all your posts, i probably won't take them. I rather not run any risks and avoid having a shitty time.
 
SET and setting Ive had bad trips because of exactly what you are describing. youll be fine once its over, but its gonna be SHITTY for a few hours at the peak if something goes wrong
 
Taking mushrooms while in distress ALWAYS bring my hidden emotions to the surface and causes me to deal with them in some way, sometimes I thank myself for dosing anyways, sometimes i'm locked in fear and have a really botched trip. depends on how willing you are to face what baggage is building up...sometimes it seems like the only experience that COULD solve some of my issues is a mushroom trip but the confrontation is other worldly and tearfully humbling every time...

Sometimes we learn the most from bad trips.
 
If you are worried about having negative thoughts and such on your trip, then it wouldn't be a good idea. However, I had a friend tell me that psychedelics are somewhat masochistic, and I would have to agree. I do enjoy a bad dark trip when times are rough. it can often help me figure out a solution to fix things. I wouldn't necessarily recommend such an experience for someone who isn't prepared to face such things. But a bad trip, isn't always a bad thing.
 
for me, the result of taking psychedelics while distressed can be incredible and therapeutic, and if it goes wrong, the consequences are minimal enough (I'm good at dealing with bad trips, generally...) to outweigh the benefits. many people don't like these rough sort of experiences though

the first time I ever did mushrooms was the strongest drug experience i've ever had with ego loss.. during the come up before my ego dissolved, I felt all sorts of terrible emotions - regret at being bitchy to my parents, fear of loneliness, etc... and then I worked through them and resolved to be a better person, and then the real beauty of the trip came.
 
I agree with what was mentioned above, that it really depends on what type of trip you are hoping to have. If you are looking for a good time, then now may not be the best time to do so.

If you are willing to dive in and feel whatever pain and fear you encounter, then that can be extremely therapeutic. Facing these things head on can prevent us from spending all our energy running away from them. I'm hesitant to take LSD because the last time I was huddled on my sofa for hours praying for it to end. But overall it was a very beneficial experience, and I will most likely do it again quite soon.

So yeah ask yourself what you want out of it, then you will have your answer :)

Whoa...I would love to hear more about this


Anyway, my girlfriend took 2c-e for the first time while her dad (very close to him) was in the hospital in critical condition. He was in his last days and she wouldn't stop buggin me about trying it.

I know, I know, I was stupid as hell for letting her but if you knew how my girl was....Anyway, I gave her 10 mgs so she could basically leave me the fuck alone and she had a scary trip...But boy was she greatful for it in the end!

She felt god was telling her that her dad was going to be with him and all this other crazy shit. The craziest part for her was the visuals during the peak. She couldn't get over the fact that my face was melting (surprise!) and she claims she seen heads coming out the wall.

But after all the crazy shit she just sat back and went on some spirtual journy. She was super happy.

Meanwhile, I was on 20 mgs scared fucking shitless because I was dumb enough to give her some while in that bad mental state. I had 2 xanex bars in my back pocket ready to pop them the whole time to kill my trip because she was just freaking me all out lol.

Anyway, if she turned out well in the state she was in. It could be a good thing for anybody imo.
 
Basically then: If you are looking for a soul-searching powerfully introspective and possibly damaging experience then by all means go ahead. If you're just looking for a fun trip then wait until you feel more settled and maybe listen to some cool music. Good luck either way :)
 
I just hate trying to get someone out of a loop, it feels like my spiritual obligation to help a brother but I get desperately worried when a tripper asks me repeatedly "What is going on?" with no way to even communicate with them or reassure them.

it's especially creepy because I have never been in that state but i image... it something to do with holding on to fears/irrational thought processes when the tripping mind is trying to open up to new possibilities one sees the new content as "impossible" seeing things contradicting themselves and soon is in a full loop of fearful paradox.

My perspective is that this occurs due to karma or Kundalini getting stuck somewhere in your being, some emotional content simply has been on hold and someone who isn't prepared for confrontation with the self may lose their marbles here maybe become extremely socially anxious from seeing their content so much closer to the surface and so intensified by the drugs that they feel it at the tip of their tongue.

I choose to trip alone most times just so I can take this stuff at face value and head on, get really creeped out by myself and then integrate it over the course of the trip, I may only be comfortable enough with my girlfriend to let the real stuff out around any people other than my own mind/judgments.
 
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