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Ketamine, MXE, PCP?

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ok, this isn't a direct substance ID thread, since there is obviously no way for you to tell BUT i need some help.

On Tuesday night, I did two small line (half-in long, half the thickness of a lolipop) of what was supposedly Ketamine. Thing is, not only did it take a while (over half an hour) to come up, but the effects lasted several hours. Now, I had been drinking, so this might have affected it, but it also subjectively felt different. More confusing, not as sedative.

I was curious if these type of effects were more likely to come from PCP or MXE, or if its likely that the only issue was the drinking and the size of the lines I did. My concern is that I have a drug test tomorrow, and If it was likely PCP, I need to start taking precautions to get it out of my system.

Any help, advice, or comparisons between the substances would be appreciated.
 
'more confusing, less sedative' seems to be a description of PCP i would say, though i've never tried any of these.

you may want to begin your detox now. someone else will know better than myself, but MXE and Ketamine may trigger false-positives on PCP as well. i remember hearing that DXM will do that at least, maybe not mxe/ket, i'm not positive.

someone will chime in with more exp in disassociatives than me, til then you can eat my 2 cents :D
 
DXM should not cause false positives with PCP, they are completely different structure.

Many people speculated that MXE might show up as PCP due to the similar structure (but by that reasoning, Ket would also show up as PCP) but there are a few anecdotes in the B&D MXE thread where people have had urinalysis after MXE use and passed just fine.

As far as substance ID, ask the guy you got it from, and get a scale next time.
 
DXM should not cause false positives with PCP, they are completely different structure.

Many people speculated that MXE might show up as PCP due to the similar structure (but by that reasoning, Ket would also show up as PCP) but there are a few anecdotes in the B&D MXE thread where people have had urinalysis after MXE use and passed just fine.

As far as substance ID, ask the guy you got it from, and get a scale next time.

Actually, it's not that simple. You can't just say "because drug X which is similar to PCP doesn't cause false positives for PCP, drug Y won't either." - that said, I don't know for sure whether DXM would cause a false positive but Erowid has had some contesting reports here, that might be worth reading. Ketamine also can cause false positives for PCP - and I assume MXE would do the same, however it depends on the exact drug test that is being conducted.

As I said, Ketamine itself can cause false positives for PCP, and can show up on some drug tests so in future I'd advise avoiding it altogether for at least a good few days before any drug tests you know you have to take.

If you know exactly what test you have to take someone might be able to give a more detailed answer about if you're likely to fail or not.

Please avoid ID discussion in this thread. Saying "Substance X has similar effects to that" == ID discussion.
 
well its not DXM since you cant snort that. Ket and MXE(not entirely sure but it seems likely) can give false positives for PCP so youre probably out of luck. If I had to guess I'd say it was MXE since it takes about 30 minutes to start up but there is no way to know what it really is without getting it tested.
 
Please don't speculate as to what the substance could be. As I already said, we don't allow ID threads here - this is just for discussion of whether any of these drugs will cause a false positive in his drug test.

This is a harm reduction site so speculating when you really have absolutely no idea what it could be that they took is more likely to lead to harm than reduce it - for example, in this case, telling him it's one drug might make him believe he'll pass the drug test fine, when in fact he won't.

Since your drug test is today, this'll likely be closed tomorrow as this is going to further deteriorate into more ID discussion.
 
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