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Ketamine Injection (archived scraps)

Ketalar

There is the brand, Ketalar, sold to hospitals etc for use in anaesthesia. It is a white powder which is mixed with sterile water for injection. Probably not easy to come by on the street.
 
^^Everyone has misunderstood the question i think(even though it's pretty straight forward). I've heard of this too. Not sure how true it is as I've never seen it 1st hand. But supposedly if you try to cook it it turns into a thick hard gel pancake. This could be something else that maybe someone is using to burn people with, who knows. But whatever it is, I would never inject something like that into my body.
 
I have had this brand, it is hard to scrape of the plate and nearly impossible to snort. Can´t remember the brand name though, if it comes to me I will post here again.
 
Is it a waste to inject Ketamine right before bed?

My girlfriend likes to inject 2 CC's right before bed. I think its a waste not only because of that high dose but because you don't come out of the hole and analyze it. The longer you wait to think about your trip the more you forget, precisely like a dream. Your brain doesn't register the information properly when you are tripping so you can't record your sensory information thus all of your trip is lost almost as if it never even occurred so all you get is a temporary high and permanent physical damage with a minimal memory of your blissful hole. Shes a petite girl too only weighing 120 pounds do you think 100mg is too much for someone like that? I get ego loss on 75mg but she insists her body chemistry is different thus constituting heavy doses.
 
Ketamine is addictive, you do know that? She may "need" the ketamine, especially if she's shooting every night... The needle itself is addictive, talk to her.

The "need" for ketamine, might also give the answer of why she wants 100mg, yet 75mg will give you ego loss. Her tolerance is probably high due to addiction.

Keep us updated?
 
We only do it every few weeks is that considered an addiction? She insists that 75mg doesn't give her the experience she wants which is ego loss, she says she teeters on the edge of a hole at that dose. She says she has a permanent tolerance.
 
When I do ketamine, I do it before bed, but I have music on to prevent me from falling asleep for atleast an hour after taking my dose to reflect on the experience. Also to wake me up if I go into anastesia. If she falls asleep before reflecting on the experience than I feel she may be forgetting the experience. For me, getting the best experience comes from a dose that is just shy of anastesia, so she may just need that extra 25mgs.

In all honesty, it doesn't seem to me that she has that high of a tolerence yet if she takes it by IM. 100mg IV'ed would be a different story, but some people on these boards need 300mgs IM'ed to get to where they want to. I use twice a year but at doses of about 160mg (I weigh about 160lbs).

Once every few weeks isn't an addiction, IMO, but if you have a similar body chemisty to me, that will still make your tolerence go up.
 
When I'm using Ketamine therapeutically, I find a large dose before bed to be fantastic, as it seems to lower the stimulant effects of low-dose use. You should be able to reflect the next morning (if you need to reflect, that is - K has antidepressant effects in and of itself, regardless of psychedelic-like reactions), since the afterglow remains for days.
 
If she is using every night she should really learn about the addictive potential... like said before, IMing K is also less fun, more introspective and shorter lasting I find...

She should be weary about her K use... I usually don't go over a gram a month, sometimes just not doing it at all.. (its easy to find here...)

Some of my best experiences though where with high doses right before bed... Though after the K-holeing I was up for maybe an hour after sometimes... I don't have any problems remembering the trips either, maybe she should cut it for a while to lower her tolerance... I found when I was using K too often (Snorting throughout the day, then IMing to K-hole)

i had severe problems remembering alot, though the afterglow is always nice... the memory loss ain't good during school times, or when you lose track of what day it is or was hahaha :P
 
well after the khole there is a lasting headache like really pounding so its best to do it before bed dont you guys think?
lostreality, how long does it take you for your tolerance to get back to baseline after you do 160mg, 6 months?
isnt it best to do k with no music, doesnt music prevent you from achieving ego loss?
 
Dr.DOB said:
isnt it best to do k with no music, doesnt music prevent you from achieving ego loss?
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Music helps you achieve ego loss. You get lost in the music and achieve a trance state which segues into a deeper state.

Dissociatives, in general, are perfect with music and many people use dissociatives just to listen to music. Achieving ego loss has never been a problem.
 
Dr.DOB said:
well after the khole there is a lasting headache like really pounding so its best to do it before bed dont you guys think?
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Pounding headache, vertigo, and/or nausea are all signs that your idea of a "khole" is actually an overdose as far as recreational use is concerned. That's why I never use that stupid word. Try 90mg. Or 80. With reasonable dosing all these side effects should stay at a minimum, or at worst not bad enough to require you to take it before bed. With reasonable dosing, most people feel fantastic after they come back to baseline.

lostreality, how long does it take you for your tolerance to get back to baseline after you do 160mg, 6 months?
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It will never go back to baseline 100%, but will definitely go back considerably. Keep in mind that it will shoot right back up if you use it more than a couple of times when you return.

isnt it best to do k with no music, doesnt music prevent you from achieving ego loss?
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Not really.

Ego loss is not guaranteed on any drug every time you do it.

That is, assuming your definition of "ego loss" doesn't mean knockout anaesthesia, as I seem to be getting from your posts.
 
phew said:
Music helps you achieve ego loss. You get lost in the music and achieve a trance state which segues into a deeper state.

Dissociatives, in general, are perfect with music and many people use dissociatives just to listen to music. Achieving ego loss has never been a problem.
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I find music to pretty much prevent ego loss with ketamine. The music keeps me anchored in reality somewhat, not that I don't enjoy it sometimes but I find my deeper explorations of the ketamine space to be without music. Ketamine tends to produce its own auditory hallucinations sometimes.
 
for serious. the most reality-shredding ketamine experience I've had was in total silence and my brain just made up music form the ambient sound of air coming out of a vent above me. shit was twisted. whole different genre or electronica. still, my favorite experiences with K included music.
 
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Dr.DOB said:
lostreality, how long does it take you for your tolerance to get back to baseline after you do 160mg, 6 months?
isnt it best to do k with no music, doesnt music prevent you from achieving ego loss?
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Like another poster said, there is a permanent tolerance that builds. About 4 years I used about once every week or two and my tolerance built up to the point where I could snort 500mgs and not k-hole. I took a year and half long break, tried snorting 200mg, and k-holed. So I decided to do ketamine infrequently. With so many other chemicals, this isn't too difficult, although it is ketamine that has always been the most magical for me. So my tolerance is down from where it was, but still not where I was when I began ketamine. I think 130mgs snorted was what I first needed, but I don't remember. I couldn't say how long it takes for my tolerance get back to normal from experience, but I would like to say maybe 1 1/2 months.

For me with out music I think too much and anticipate whats about to happen. This thinking keeps me grounded. Soft relaxing uncomplicated music helps me not think so much and better allow me to let go. Than the music sometimes acts a guide through a magical world born of the music. Than the music ends up having this connotation of enlightment, like its this song of the source of all life vibrating through the universe that creates understanding and bliss when it is heard. This connotation remains a little even when I am sober. This isn't the case for everyone.
 
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