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Ketamine (IM) + 2c-b - A Perfectly Lovely Evening

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This is my first post in this forum. :)

I recently had my second experience with IM Ketamine and my first experience with ingested 2c-b. I am moderately experienced with LSD and mushrooms, but this was my first foray into the world of research chemicals. Having just moved cross-country 3 months ago, I’m at a stage in my life where I’m open to new experiences. I have developed a strong interest in research chemicals as of late, and am really appreciative of the opportunity to have had this experience with such wonderful friends.

I met two friends, “K” (female) and “S” (her boyfriend) at K’s house, a very comfortable and safe environment. We relaxed and chatted, and everyone was in an overall good mindset. We had a light meal of soup, and then on to the fun part.

Until my first experience with Ketamine, I had a terrible fear of and aversion to needles. I was glad when I was finally able to open my mind enough to ignore society’s bogus “needle taboo” and try this drug. I had a mild/moderate but enjoyable first experience a couple months back.

We put on a relaxing Moby CD and my friend prepared the K for injection. I was pretty well fascinated with the process despite the fact that I’m still a bit apprehensive about needles. It’s been explained to me that IM is really the “cleanest” and most enjoyable way to do K, and my friends are meticulous about using brand new syringes, using them only once and following sterile techniques, so I put my fear aside and prepared myself mentally for an enjoyable trip. I had not had any alcohol since the previous night and smoked one bowl of marijuana about 6 hours prior to arriving, so I was completely sober.

I took one injection in each butt cheek since the needles were small, for a total dose of 80 mg. The first time I did K my dose was 75 mg.

It’s amazing the difference that 5 mg makes.

I hope the rest of this report makes sense- understandably; my memory’s a bit hazy. ;)

We turned out the lights and started getting into the music while laying down and staring at the ceiling. About one to two minutes after the injections, I started to feel the same “lifting out of my body” that I experienced on my first K trip. It’s almost as if my soul sat up at a 90 degree angle- my perspective had turned downward precisely that far. It quickly turned upward at the same angle and these shifts in perception that were so mathematical in nature occurred throughout the trip. I saw several different shades of black while staring at the ceiling in the dark room- blackish-green, blackish-amber and blackish-blue being the colors I found most aesthetically pleasing. It was almost like a really fun video game.

K and S were in the same zone; right as I started to see some sort of symbols that may have been numbers, she commented on how we live in such a high-tech, fast-paced, digital world. I can’t think of a more appropriate way to describe what I was feeling at that moment. The Ketamine experience really seems to lend itself beautifully to deep introspection, yet at the same time bonding with friends.

After probably about 45 minutes more of the vibe and the visuals, we all began to come down. As we relaxed and reflected some more, S got the idea to take some 2c-b. He carefully weighed out the doses (I can’t remember if my dose was 15 mg or 18 mg but I am sure he does) and put them in gelcaps so we could ingest them. Ingesting 2c-b seems to be the method of administration most people prefer- K and S advised me that insufflating 2c-b is a most unpleasant experience.

About a half hour after ingesting the capsules, my wrists and ankles started to hurt, K’s back hurt and S had some pain in his shoulder, so we each took a Soma and that helped a lot. Any residual anaesthetic effects of the Ketamine had definitely worn off. I then started to feel a similarly anxious feeling in my stomach to when I am coming up on MDMA and I knew the 2c-b was starting to take hold.

The ceiling was cast in a golden light, and its texture started to “breathe” in a similar manner to a mild mushroom trip. A sense of comfort and warmth spread over me, though it didn’t cross the line into outright euphoria like MDMA or opiates. There was no ego loss as with LSD (thankfully- I had a harrowing high dose LSD experience recently and the ego loss was the most disturbing part). When I closed my eyes, I had some nice visuals of a small-squared black and white checkerboard undulating in three, or possibly more, dimensions.

I was not sexually aroused during my trip, but I got the distinct impression that 2c-b would be a nice addition to an intimate experience. There is nothing sexier than someone who is comfortable in his/her own skin, and I had the feeling that my body “fit” me perfectly. (Now I just need to find a psychedelically motivated guy- which isn’t that easy!) :(

The three of us got to chatting again and I don’t think we stopped laughing for 2 hours. We all have good senses of humor but there were some points that we were giggling so hard that we almost fell off the couch. I felt a little scatterbrained, though- I was trying to show K how to play blackjack on my mobile phone, but when I tried to explain the rules and procedure I just wasn’t able to make my thoughts cohesive enough to provide an effective explanation. (She did figure it out on her own and had a lot of fun with it!)

We fell asleep about 6 hours after the Ketamine injections with the help of a pharmie whose name I can’t seem to remember. When I woke up, my back felt a bit sore and my head just a tiny bit cloudy, but definitely not hung over.

Now, what are my plans for these drugs in the future? I’d like to combine a slightly higher dose of Ketamine with nitrous (I remember thinking how pissed off at my ex-boyfriend for breaking my whipped cream machine several times during my trip). I think nitrous would add to both the dissociative and visual effects of Ketamine most favorably.

As for 2c-b, I’d like to combine it with MDMA next time. I like that it is not a “head fuck” and I think a mild to moderate dose would combine beautifully (and most importantly safely) with MDMA. I also recall thinking that it enhanced the music nicely, in a similar manner to cannabis- and the trip was manageable enough that I’d even be comfortable taking 2c-b at a concert.

K and I noticed (though S didn’t) that we all smelled different from normal- somewhat like sweet curry, coconut milk and chai tea (for lack of a better comparison). Even after I showered and washed my hair, the smell persisted and when at the market less than 24 hours after the experience I was even asked what perfume I was wearing! (I couldn’t say Eau de 2c-b so I told the woman it was the new fragrance I just bought.) I wasn't wearing any perfume. Has anyone else noticed this effect? It was not at all unpleasant- just a bit off the wall.

This trip was quite an easy ride- the slightly anxious stomach and muscle soreness passed quickly and didn’t detract from the trip. I didn’t have one negative or repetitive thought, as can so easily happen on LSD, for example. What really made the experience special, though, was the people involved. We really bonded from this, and I look forward to many more happy trips together- hopefully also with someone who is as special to me as K and S are to each other. :)
 
great trip report!! :)

i can relate to the needles, i don't like them either and i don't think there's going to be a change in that even if society accepts the whole scene, it's just that i don't like to mutilate my body and a needle poking through my skin, injecting a weird chemical doesn't really help. i'm glad you got over it ;) !!

--"I felt a little scatterbrained, though- I was trying to show K how to play blackjack on my mobile phone, but when I tried to explain the rules and procedure I just wasn’t able to make my thoughts cohesive enough to provide an effective explanation."--

haha, almost every time when i want to explain something while tripping i cannot get my brain to change my thoughts into the right words, i always have trouble explaining something and my friends cannot follow me while i ramble on about what i just thought without getting it right. it's frustrating but hilarious at the same time.

it's weird that you guys smelled different from taking a drug, i don't know what it could be, it can't be placebo if the woman in the store smelled the same thing (only if she too was on 2c-b wich i doubt). just too weird... has anyone else heard of such a thing?? it can't be drug induced, can it??
 
I've never really liked 2-cb or K by themselfs. Although they sound like an intersting combo if the doses are right. Peace, Spinal
 
I'm not sure I would enjoy this combo, sometimes 2-cb can be a little overwhelming and I need to get up and spew, or go to the bathroom or for a walk. K combined would just remove my will and / or ability to get up. But then again, I've been having 25mg of 2cb, and your dose was smaller.

Still, nice report :)
 
Thanks- it really was a great night.

I became mildly nauseous at points (and one of my friends actually did vomit, I forgot to add that part) but it was nothing like the nausea I often experience with MDMA.

The Ketamine had definitely worn off by the time I came up on the 2c-b.

There is not a chance I would have been able to stand up on the K- I wasn't "in" my body for the most intense part of the K trip and I am sure I would have fallen on my ass had I tried.

The part that I still can't figure out is the smell, though. I still kind of smell like I did after the 2c-b! Is this a residual olfactory hallucination or have I changed my chemistry in some manner?

Oh well. It smells good. :)
 
^ That sometimes happens to me after taking a drug. If I try really hard I can remember the taste or smell of a drug I haven't taken in months. Example, the taste of E in my nasal cavity. Peace, Spinal
 
Somehow, I have a suspicion that I know "K" and "S" quite well, having done similar things with such a young Bay Area couple in the past.

;)
 
I never thought ketamine and PEAs went as well together as ketamine and indole psychedelics do, but 2C-B was an acception. The two had a fantastic synergy. Nice report.
 
LOL 5HT-2 ;) :D Yes the Bay Area is full of some really great folks, isn't it.

I smelled chai tea at Starbucks today and had a mini-flashback. :D
 
^^^I kind of made the assumption that K and/or S are or have been BLers, is this true?
 
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