Ketamine Discussion- Quality and regional info

[Darksidesam]

I would just love an eighth to blast over a couple of days, ket makes me feel much more positive and is always good to drag me out of the comedown. Even blasting 7gs through a weekend I usually feel brilliant for a week after.

I will probably get some in a few weeks when I'm fit to leave the house to sort it out. For some reason it actually sorts my head out.

Thats the difference between having a nice dose/ session once in a while, and dosing all the time.

I learned that recently LOL.

 

[mattnotrik]

Not trickled down here yet…

A friend managed to get 2 oz's and thats all he was allocated, and thats it, so only a few grams trickled down to us.... and its all gone. jesus

 

[rockstar 69]

^ That's not really a big order concidering some people will inevitably be greedy and bosh loads of it themselves.

Does anyone know how dangerous it would be to take Ketamine with a cahciter bag on? I ended up with it after getting hit with bad pills they put it in because I was unconscious for too long. My bladder is not fucked but they boshed up taking the cahciter out (hence why I'm still with it) and a result my cock is suffering to put iit bluntly.

I have no plans of caining the K. Was more thinking I would just buy 1-3.5g, and do one decent line every few nights to stop me feeling so shit about everything. Ketamine makes me feel much more positive in general and I reckon the medicinal effect could do my mindset some good.

I'm not on any other medication either. I'm going to be on this for roughly another 2.5 weeks.

 

[brimz]

Rockstar if uyour not fond of your cahciter then may i suggest being very conservative with Ket in the future.

I know plenty of 18/23 year olds that have had them as a result of Ket abuse , i'm sure u know all about what it does in your urinary tract , it crystalises , you must have noticed the effect it has on your bladder.
Tecno Smack , its not called that for owt.

 

[rockstar 69]

I'm not on the cahciter because of my ket use though. I have no problem with my ketamine use, the worst I ever do is batter through 5gs in a few days then none for a few more weeks. A gramme or two in a night. I think my worst ever was 2.5g in a night.

It takes a fair habbit to end up with the fucked bladder. I've never really had the stomach cramps from ketamine use. Obviously people battering an oz every week are going to have problems.

 

[parttime crackhead]

Rockstar if uyour not fond of your cahciter then may i suggest being very conservative with Ket in the future.

I know plenty of 18/23 year olds that have had them as a result of Ket abuse , i'm sure u know all about what it does in your urinary tract , it crystalises , you must have noticed the effect it has on your bladder.
Tecno Smack , its not called that for owt.

I thought that was bullshit? I know it fucks your bladder but I thought the whole "re-crystalising inside you" thing was nonsense?

 

[brimz]

I mnow i'm just pointing out that Ket use does fuk up your bladder & urinary tract big time.
I'm fuked know i didn't even do half that stone , still got about a3rd left . not bad for 10£

 

[rockstar 69]

I'm not sure man, I've heard rumors that swallowing the drip is bad for you. There is alot of rumor and myth surrounding ketamine in general though.

If someone can answer my question about how dangerous that would be I'd be very greatful. Not too keen I have a better picture.

 

[Vader]

I know it fucks your bladder but I thought the whole "re-crystalising inside you" thing was nonsense?

Yeah, it is, bladder damage is mainly due to the formation of a toxic metabolite (norketamine).

 

[rockstar 69]

Vader I don't suppose you could shed any light on this if it's a terrible idea or not..

Does anyone know how dangerous it would be to take Ketamine with a cahciter bag on? I ended up with it after getting hit with bad pills they put it in because I was unconscious for too long. My bladder is not fucked but they boshed up taking the cahciter out (hence why I'm still with it) and a result my cock is suffering to put iit bluntly.

I have no plans of caining the K. Was more thinking I would just buy 1-3.5g, and do one decent line every few nights to stop me feeling so shit about everything. Ketamine makes me feel much more positive in general and I reckon the medicinal effect could do my mindset some good.

I'm not on any other medication either. I'm going to be on this for roughly another 2.5 weeks.

I'm guessing it would be ok if I stick to one or two doses and keep dosing reasonable?

 

[Mr Smokes Blunts.]

RS I really wouldn't bother mate. Why don't you ham up the pain and discomfort to your doctor and get scripted some strong painkillers?

 

[Vader]

I don't know much about your condition mate, and I'm not a doctor. I will say, though, that if the catheter's just in because you were unconscious and not because your bladder's fucked from K, I would have thought should be fine. Something to consider, though; youve been through a very traumatic experience, and whilst I understand that ketamine is a powerful antidepressant, you need to grieve normally and not retreat into an internal world. If you want to use it, as you say, just to get a mood lift, that's understandable, but don't go overboard. I don't mean to get all preachy and didactic, just trying to look out for you hope your little rockstar feels better!

If you're primarily interested in using k for the antidepressant effects, this might be relevant reading:
http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/372731-Jamshyd-s-Medicinal-Ketamine-Regimen!-%28V-1.5-UPDATED-11-22-10%29?highlight=jamshyd+medical

 

[brimz]

Yeah, it is, bladder damage is mainly due to the formation of a toxic metabolite (norketamine).

really or is their another reason ?
I'm not imagining these young people , they exist & have said it was the ket that got them in trouble .

So your saying that Ket Use doesn't effect the Bladder or what ?

 

[Vader]

So your saying that Ket Use doesn't effect the Bladder or what ?

Of course I am not saying that. What I said was that the bladder damage caused by ketamine is not due to ketamine crystals forming inside the body.

 

[rockstar 69]

Mr Smokes Blunts.
RS I really wouldn't bother mate. Why don't you ham up the pain and discomfort to your doctor and get scripted some strong painkillers?

Never going to happen. I tried telling the doctor in an honest fashion how painful it is and she told me take paracetamol and ibruprofen at the same time... 8) on my sick note they were kind enough to write "drug overdose" rather than I'm on a cahciter, fucking dickheads. They treat me like a junkie seen as I'd some problems with mephedrone addiction in the past. I might actually change doctors.

Vader
I don't know much about your condition mate, and I'm not a doctor. I will say, though, that if the catheter's just in because you were unconscious and not because your bladder's fucked from K, I would have thought should be fine. Something to consider, though; youve been through a very traumatic experience, and whilst I understand that ketamine is a powerful antidepressant, you need to grieve normally and not retreat into an internal world. If you want to use it, as you say, just to get a mood lift, that's understandable, but don't go overboard. I don't mean to get all preachy and didactic, just trying to look out for you hope your little rockstar feels better!

If you're primarily interested in using k for the antidepressant effects, this might be relevant reading:
http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/3...amshyd+medical

That's kind of what I thought. Even though I don't want to overdo it and it is the antidepressant effect I'm after really at the moment (although ketamine is the only drug I really enjoy anymore aswell). I get what your saying about not retreating into an internal world. To be honest I would like a bit of escapism but I know that's heading down the wrong path so I will not be buying much anyway. Thanks for the link I'll read it now.

really or is their another reason ?
I'm not imagining these young people , they exist & have said it was the ket that got them in trouble .

So your saying that Ket Use doesn't effect the Bladder or what ?

He explained it scientifically. As far as I've heard swallowing the drip is unhealthy though I don't know why.

Also in your part of the country there are some very heavy K users. People doing whole gram lines or an oz in a weekend style binges is not uncommon. I have never, and don't plan on ever allowing myself to develop that kind of tollerance. It builds up bad enough over a few days for me.

 

[Kronos]

Dunno if the k is related or not but been smashing the k the last few days, woke up yesterday with real bad stomach cramps, crawled to the bathroom and threw up 10+ times but the pain kept getting worse, im alright for pain usually but this was something else. Kept getting worse to the point i couldnt move, screaming into a pillow after about 20 mins i couldnt stand it anymore & phoned an ambulance, cunts wouldnt give me any morphine cause im on naltrexone/past drug abuse so gave me (edit)*entonox which didnt help at all.
Anyway they reckon it was summat to do with my appendix but wernt sure so didnt do the operation, i reckon it might've been k related but i'm not sure. Passed out or fell asleep after 6 hours or so and wasnt so bad when i woke up so i went, still getting stabbing pains every now and then but nothing too bad. I think it was k related though, either way im laying off it for a bit!

 

[Glitched]

Sorry, what is Equinox?

Sorry that you had to endure that mate it sounds horrible, especially without any serious pain relief. Did they at least give you some nitros?

Is your history of drug abuse with opiates?

 

[7zark7]

Ketamine is 'bad' for your bladder after only huge, repeated doses over a long period. Nothing to do with crystallisation 8) and I don't buy the norketamine metabolite idea either.

From: http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg21028174.100-chronic-ketamine-use-kills-bladder-cells.html

"20 per cent of people who have taken high doses of ketamine several times a week over months to years have experienced urinary tract problems."

"In an as-yet-unpublished study, Simon Baker and Jennifer Southgate at the University of York, UK, added ketamine to human urothelium cells, which line the bladder. With increasing doses, the cells rapidly became cytostatic - they stopped growing - and then died with further increases."

So it sounds that, as the amount of ketamine in the bladder increases in concentration, the more cells will die (Cytotoxicity). Common sense would tell you to keep the concentration down by drinking fluids and regularly emptying your bladder through urination.

I imagine that a number of people, who are heavy users, are not doing either of the above as often as they should be - which is understandable, as ketamine has a habit of keeping you in one place for a long time!


As an even more of-the-wall idea, if ketmine is cytotoxic only to bladder cells, then I wonder if it would be effective at treating bladder cancer?

 

[Kronos]

More or less with everything, least of all opis cause im trying to nip that in the bud before it gets bad hence the naltrexone. *entonox is nitrous and air but it did fuck all, they thought i was having a panic attack aswel (which i wasnt) cause i was hyperventilating but it was just cause that helped more with the pain, numbing me slightly..

Just wish i knew whether it was due to the k or not lol, was using stupid amounts over the period of a few days

 

[Vader]

Thanks for that 7z7, good read.